Ongoing 2019 Tri Glide Build-Out w/ lots of photos, videos and observations

[DK Custom Products]

Sorry to hear that the saddleman seat cover didn't work out for you, sounded promising, glad Mary found the seat cover, what ever works just keep doing that and sounds like the trash bag is the key, may not look the best but it works

All for now Trampas

Yep! There's a trash bag on it right now. :laugh:

Kevin

 

[DK Custom Products]

Lotta truth to that! :laugh:

Kevin

 

[DK Custom Products]

Dwayne's been waiting on me. Finally got the voice-over done.



Kevin

 

[ultrafxr]

Great video on the shocks Kevin. I can see the amount of effort all you guys have put into the videos. Very professional and the graphics aid greatly in communicating your ideas.

 

[DK Custom Products]

Great video on the shocks Kevin. I can see the amount of effort all you guys have put into the videos. Very professional and the graphics aid greatly in communicating your ideas.

Thank you!

Kevin

 

[Kmark]

Kevin - New to this site, but not to trikes. I have been glued to this thread for over an hour now. Great info, wonderful videos. Love the mods you have done. I have the same Tri Glide, 2019 with same paint scheme. Please don't be offended if I steal some of your ideas and pass them off as my own...lol.

Mark

 

[DK Custom Products]

Kevin - New to this site, but not to trikes. I have been glued to this thread for over an hour now. Great info, wonderful videos. Love the mods you have done. I have the same Tri Glide, 2019 with same paint scheme. Please don't be offended if I steal some of your ideas and pass them off as my own...lol.

Mark

Hi Mark,

Welcome to the site & Congrats on your 2019 TG. Glad to hear you're liking some of what we've done to ours. Appropriate all you want...just on the DK stuff, send them our way!

Kevin

 

[DK Custom Products]

I've mentioned it in another post, but want to update this thread with the info.

As previously mentioned in this thread, my Tri Glide was built*in November of 2018.* It does not have the primary vent.

I recently discovered I am getting transmission oil migrating to the primary in excess of 6 ounces.* (below 6 ounces HD says is "normal")

So I will be taking it in for the warranty installation of the primary vent.*

Everyone I've spoken to that has had this done has seen it solve the oil migration issue.* So I am expecting the same.

Kevin

 

[DK Custom Products]

Here's a video from when I installed the 606 HiFlow A/C, with a Premium Discrete Breather System, on this TG.



Kevin

 

[ISP-FL]

Kevin, when you said your oil migration was "above 6 ounces", are you talking about that much loss from the tranny in 1,000 miles?

As you know I am starting to monitor mine for this issue. I might as well keep track on exactly how much I think it is transferring in how many miles as I go along.

 

[DK Custom Products]

Kevin, when you said your oil migration was "above 6 ounces", are you talking about that much loss from the tranny in 1,000 miles?

As you know I am starting to monitor mine for this issue. I might as well keep track on exactly how much I think it is transferring in how many miles as I go along.

Yes, 6 ounce or more that migrate from the transmission to the primary...that is the threshold that Harley has set for warranty installation of the Primary Vent.

If it has less than 6 ounce of migration, that is "normal"/"acceptable" (ROFLMAO) and does not warrant a Primary Vent.

I am not sure of the miles...don't remember that part of the bulletin.

Unfortunately, the Dealership has to verify that there is oil migration for Warranty installation of the Primary Vent. This is why I have not had mine done yet.

I need to take it in. They put in the fluids. Then I have to ride X number of miles, then take it back in, and they check again...only then can they do the warranty installation.

Kevin

 

[Trampas]

Yes, 6 ounce or more that migrate from the transmission to the primary...that is the threshold that Harley has set for warranty installation of the Primary Vent.

If it has less than 6 ounce of migration, that is "normal"/"acceptable" (ROFLMAO) and does not warrant a Primary Vent.

I am not sure of the miles...don't remember that part of the bulletin.

Unfortunately, the Dealership has to verify that there is oil migration for Warranty installation of the Primary Vent. This is why I have not had mine done yet.

I need to take it in. They put in the fluids. Then I have to ride X number of miles, then take it back in, and they check again...only then can they do the warranty installation.

Kevin

If less than 6 ounces is bull crap, should never lose anything, with all the bikes I have had never lost a drop, stayed the same until I decided to change it. Damm harley is trying to BS and not do it, if that is the case why does the 2020 models all have the vent, they know they have a problem and just don't want to fix it unless they have to, no wonder harley isn't doing as good as it used to be, my take only.

All for now Trampas

P.S. with all the changes you have done to your trike hope they don't screw you and say not covered because of your changes you have made to your trike, just saying, I know the changes you have done helps the bike but harley has a different mind set

 

[DK Custom Products]

If less than 6 ounces is bull crap, should never lose anything, with all the bikes I have had never lost a drop, stayed the same until I decided to change it. Damm harley is trying to BS and not do it, if that is the case why does the 2020 models all have the vent, they know they have a problem and just don't want to fix it unless they have to, no wonder harley isn't doing as good as it used to be, my take only.

All for now Trampas

P.S. with all the changes you have done to your trike hope they don't screw you and say not covered because of your changes you have made to your trike, just saying, I know the changes you have done helps the bike but harley has a different mind set

Yep, HD has a LONG track record of changing tolerances/specs when issues arise. lol Probably one of the most significant was to change crankshaft runout tolerances on the Twin Cams when they were having trouble with the cranks shifting.

Not worried about warranty. Everything I've done is easily reversed back to stock, if need be.

Kevin

 

[ISP-FL]

I guess if I find my oil migration is 6 ounces or more within 800 to 1,000 miles I will bring it up to a dealer and have them start a warranty process/claim.

As far as them denying any factory warranty on mine possibly because I have aftermarket slip-ons and a different air cleaner, I will just ask the service manager when I initiate the process. He/she shouldn't have a problem telling me if I should put the original parts back on during the testing period and installation of the vent.

I could return it to original in about 45 minutes. Kevin, yours may take a little longer?

 

[leonard]

ongoing

If you don't lose more than 6 oz they won't do the vent? I guess it would be less problem just to buy the vent kit and do it yourself, 49.00 for the kit. I will probably do it my self just to avoid the dealer hassel.

 

[ultrafxr]

So far I've had no migration and I've checked it several times. Last two times I've changed the primary fluid I measured what came out and both times it was dead on 32 oz. And checking the tranny dipstick the fluid level is right where it should be.

But my factory warranty expires in mid September and I wonder if I should develop the migration at a later date if Harley would honor a warranty claim to install the vent. Or if ESP would cover it. Inquiring minds want to know, lol.

 

[DK Custom Products]

I guess if I find my oil migration is 6 ounces or more within 800 to 1,000 miles I will bring it up to a dealer and have them start a warranty process/claim.

As far as them denying any factory warranty on mine possibly because I have aftermarket slip-ons and a different air cleaner, I will just ask the service manager when I initiate the process. He/she shouldn't have a problem telling me if I should put the original parts back on during the testing period and installation of the vent.

I could return it to original in about 45 minutes. Kevin, yours may take a little longer?

Yes, maybe about 1 hour.

For Warranty purposes on a 2017 - Up, what automatically gets reported to the mothership is if there is a NON-EPA approved tune. Everything else is at the discretion of the Dealership, UNLESS there happens to be a roving HD area manager on site when your bike is there...They can then see visual changes (A/C, exhaust, etc.) that the digital technician does not see. If they do, good chance they will report it.

So far I've had no migration and I've checked it several times. Last two times I've changed the primary fluid I measured what came out and both times it was dead on 32 oz. And checking the tranny dipstick the fluid level is right where it should be.

But my factory warranty expires in mid September and I wonder if I should develop the migration at a later date if Harley would honor a warranty claim to install the vent. Or if ESP would cover it. Inquiring minds want to know, lol.

Good question. It seems it would, but I would take a look at the ESP fine print to see if it were excluded.

I think it is $249 to have the Dealership install it. If you purchase the kit yourself, and install it yourself, I believe the cost of the Primary Vent kit is only $49

Kevin

 

[DK Custom Products]

If you don't lose more than 6 oz they won't do the vent? I guess it would be less problem just to buy the vent kit and do it yourself, 49.00 for the kit. I will probably do it my self just to avoid the dealer hassel.

Yeah, I may do that myself, just to avoid going back and forth to the dealership...save about 3 or 4 100+ mile round trips.


I don't know if they're still doing it (probably are), when they fill it for the test they put a seal on the trans fill plug, if it is broken, then they have to start the test over again.

Dunno if they put some sort of a seal on the primary cover.

Kevin

 

[DK Custom Products]

3,000 mile Review Update-



Kevin

 

[Trampas]

Kevin, have seen the pics of your triglide in that color and it looks really nice in the pics, well Saturday I was at the dealer here and they had one in your color and wow is all I have to say, it is one nice looking color in person, pics of a bike are nice online but in person makes a big difference

All for now Trampas

 

[DK Custom Products]

Kevin, have seen the pics of your triglide in that color and it looks really nice in the pics, well Saturday I was at the dealer here and they had one in your color and wow is all I have to say, it is one nice looking color in person, pics of a bike are nice online but in person makes a big difference

All for now Trampas

Yeah, it's been close to 40 years since I've owned any kind of vehicle that is red...never thought I would again either. But I really like the color combo on this one...especially with the ceramic coat & the color change it gets in the sun.

Kevin

 

[DK Custom Products]

As we've been getting this 2019 Tri Glide set up how I like, besides observing the differences in it and the 2011 we had, and the 2014, we've been making some videos as we go.

Here's the latest one on getting the no-mess oil filter relo installed, along with an oil cooler. (coming soon will be a vid on our oil temp testing).



Kevin

 

[DK Custom Products]

1. I route engine, oil filter, oil cooler, then back to engine.

2. There are no check valves. It is VERY Impo

rtant to route the lines as outlined in the instructions. There is an IN and an OUT on both the Relocator and the Oil Filter Adapter (that goes on the engine). These must be hooked up correctly. HERE is a link to the instructions. When changing the oil, there will be a couple of ounces that do not drain out, similar to the 12 ounces or so that are in the engine that never drain out when doing a change. If you want to get all the oil out (with or without an oil filter relocation) than some sort of scavenging system must be used.

(all the oil in the cooler and the adapter will drain out though, it is just parts of the lines that are below the drain that won't....about 2-3 ounces.)

3. 5-6 ounces. Always use your dipstick to make sure the oil is at the correct level.

4.

A- I feel no additional heat, nor has anyone reported feeling additional heat. Two reasons-

1- The oil cooler is inboard of the primary, which is already putting out a massive amount of heat, the cooler adds no appreciable surface area, relatively speaking.

2- The oil cooler cools the oil, and results in the entire engine, including the primary, being cooler.

So most folks feel less heat emanating from the engine.

B & C- Unless it is down in the low 40's or lower, leave the vent open. These things generate a lot of heat and cooling down the oil is key. When it is really cold, closing the vent to stop air flowing thru the oil cooler is ok, since it is likely not needed to keep the oil and the engine at optimum operating temps.

Yeah, Devin does not like to talk much on camera, so the wrench turning was him and the camera and talking was me.

I think you will like the oil filter relo, makes changing it out SO MUCH easier!

Be safe my friend.

Kevin

 

[ShapeShifter]

I captured this snap shot of the hose routing from your video. It will be helpful when I add the Oil Cooler to my already installed Oil Filter Relocation Kit.

The one thing I'm giving more thought to is the routing of the hoses underneath or along the frame going to and from the connections on the Oil Filter Mount. I presently have cable ties on them along the inside of the frame rails. But I do have to remember to make sure that I don't pinch or damage the hoses when I'm lifting the front of the trike with my scissor jack.

Just wondering if there's a preferred or better way for routing of the hoses to and from the relocated filter?

 

[DK Custom Products]

I captured this snap shot of the hose routing from your video. It will be helpful when I add the Oil Cooler to my already installed Oil Filter Relocation Kit. View attachment 76507

The one thing I'm giving more thought to is the routing of the hoses underneath or along the frame going to and from the connections on the Oil Filter Mount. I presently have cable ties on them along the inside of the frame rails. But I do have to remember to make sure that I don't pinch or damage the hoses when I'm lifting the front of the trike with my scissor jack.

Just wondering if there's a preferred or better way for routing of the hoses to and from the relocated filter?

Great vid capture!

I like to route one of the hoses along the inside of the frame rail, ABOVE the cross-member that runs side to side between the frame rails. The other hose I route right along side the parking brake cable on the outside of the frame rail. That way neither hose is ever below the bottom of the frame rails. No chance of getting pinched when lifting the trike.

Kevin

 

[ShapeShifter]

Great vid capture!

I like to route one of the hoses along the inside of the frame rail, ABOVE the cross-member that runs side to side between the frame rails. The other hose I route right along side the parking brake cable on the outside of the frame rail. That way neither hose is ever below the bottom of the frame rails. No chance of getting pinched when lifting the trike.

Kevin

Huge Thanks!!

I should have asked this before doing the Oil Filter Relocation install. Thought I was helping to further lower the temperature by keeping the lines more in the wind.:blush:

Couple of weeks ago I had a real pucker situation.....speeding along 60 mph in heavy rural traffic saw an obstacle in the roadway, looked like a curved aluminum access panel. No time to avoid it, so just hit it dead center with front tire. Front wheel bounced over It and then it made the most god awful noise going under the trike and out the rear. Pulled over as quickly as possible and checked underneath for damage, especially to those hoses...thankfully none, and luckily it didn't rip the catch can off or damage it.

So I'll be relocating those hoses as you described when I do the Oil Cooler install.