Ongoing 2014 Tri-Glide build-out, lots of pics and thoughts on the differences

[DK Custom Products]

What have you found works best for rider to rider communications with the HD infotainment system in the 2014 Triglide ??

Thanks for sharing all of your stories with us.

mark

Hi Mark,

I have never used any kind of electronic rider to rider, or rider to passenger, comms, so I'm completely ignorant on those matters.

Glad you've enjoyed the Ride Reports. As of now we have no trips planned for this year, but I am hoping that later in the year we will be able to take one.

Kevin

 

[dmaaero]

Did you video deals gap with a go pro, if so how did you mount it?

 

[DK Custom Products]

Did you video deals gap with a go pro, if so how did you mount it?

I use a Drift Ghost-S video camera, with a Ram Mount off the handlebars.

Also there is an external mic, routed back to below the Tour-Pak.

Kevin

 

[Grumpy7760]

Back rest filler

Nice ride. Lots of good ideas

I have 2017 triglide I like what you did with the extra space filler for the back rest and seat after moving the tourpak back

I also had to move mine back and can not figure a good solution for it any way of getting one made up of course i would pay the green for it

 

[DK Custom Products]

Nice ride. Lots of good ideas

I have 2017 triglide I like what you did with the extra space filler for the back rest and seat after moving the tourpak back

I also had to move mine back and can not figure a good solution for it any way of getting one made up of course i would pay the green for it

Thank you!

Mary made ours before anyone was making them commercially.

Now you can get them... Here's a link to what we would use now, if we needed one.

https://www.kuryakyn.com/products/4076/filler-pad

Kevin

 

[retiredff]

Kevin,

Did u monitor the oil temp with the dipstick HD oil temp gauge or did u use something else? I remember u saying at the beginning of this thread your temp gauge died.

Tony

 

[DK Custom Products]

Kevin,

Did u monitor the oil temp with the dipstick HD oil temp gauge or did u use something else? I remember u saying at the beginning of this thread your temp gauge died.

Tony

Hi Tony,

Yes, with the dipstick temp gauge. The first one I had did die, it was under warranty and replaced.

It has since died again, and not longer under warranty. While these are better than they used to be, I have never had one last more than a few years.

Kevin

 

[retiredff]

Thanks Kevin for the reply.

Is there somewhere to mount the HD oil temp gauge kit in the dashboard like the '09-'13 by replacing the 'air' temp with the oil temp on a '14+?

Maybe this will work on the '14's and newer? https://www.jescustomaccents.com/20...-Gauge-All-FLs-07-16-Wht-Air-FL-Temp-15OD.htm

 

[DK Custom Products]

Thanks Kevin for the reply.

Is there somewhere to mount the HD oil temp gauge kit in the dashboard like the '09-'13 by replacing the 'air' temp with the oil temp on a '14+?

Maybe this will work on the '14's and newer? https://www.jescustomaccents.com/20...-Gauge-All-FLs-07-16-Wht-Air-FL-Temp-15OD.htm

I've seen folks use the Jes dipstick ones...nice thing is they're mechanical, and much, MUCH less likely to fail.

Regarding putting a gauge in the dash- I've not seen anyone do that on the 14+ models. I have seen folks put a gauge in the snap in cover on the lowers. (the one that pops off and the radiator overflow is behind it)

I've thought about doing that myself, but I've done so much testing (and recording temps) with the PV and various cooling components, that now watching my ET on the PV, and knowing my riding conditions, I have a pretty good idea of where my oil temp is without having to look.

A good rule of thumb is that once you are completely warmed up/heat soaked (45-60 minutes), your oil will be within 10* +- of the ET displayed on the PV, if you have all the cooling components in place, seen at this LINK. This is on the Twin-Cooled bikes, and the only exception to that is if you are in hot weather (90*+) AND in pro-tracted stop n-go traffic. Then the oil can creep up to as much as 25* more than the displayed ET.

Kevin

 

[retiredff]

yes I agree once the testing is complete and the required parts have been installed to control the heat, the oil temp gauge is really no longer useful.

What useful information does the FP3 show? Engine temp or oil temp? I will purchase the FP3 bc I have V&H pipes left from my RK I sold in the spring.

 

[DK Custom Products]

yes I agree once the testing is complete and the required parts have been installed to control the heat, the oil temp gauge is really no longer useful.

What useful information does the FP3 show? Engine temp or oil temp? I will purchase the FP3 bc I have V&H pipes left from my RK I sold in the spring.

Yes, the FP3 can provide the CHT or what is seen as the ET on the Power Vision, it also provides an array of other information. You can see more on it HERE.

However, just because you have V&H pipes does not mean you need to get an FP3. The Power Vision works very well (and is more powerful than the FP3) with V&H exhaust. I have the PV on my TG and I'm running V&H exhaust.

See more on the Power Vision HERE.

Neither one of them display, or know, the oil temperature.

Kevin

 

[retiredff]

I know I can use the PV instead of FP3 but I can use my iPhone instead of having 1 more thing on the handle bars.

Thanks for the links.

Have u had any issues with your '14? I will buy used and haven't decided if I like the idea of a bike with water in it!

 

[DK Custom Products]

I know I can use the PV instead of FP3 but I can use my iPhone instead of having 1 more thing on the handle bars.

Thanks for the links.

Have u had any issues with your '14? I will buy used and haven't decided if I like the idea of a bike with water in it!

The only real issue I've had with my '14 is it running too hot from the factory, they all do. The Twin-Cooled (14-up) have a particular problem in that they do not have an oil cooler. But this has been resolved. I had a '11 before this, it ran too hot also, as they all do...I also resolved that on the air cooled (after HD replaced the top end at 10,000 miles due to heat damage).

All other "issues" on the '14 have been regular stuff, not peculiar to the '14. Control switches, horn bracket, reverse motor, etc. all covered under warranty.

I am still under extended warranty, getting close to 60,000 miles and my compensator is starting to go bad. But that is a pretty good life for it, given how I've treated it and the problems all Big Twins have had with them over the last 5-6 years.

I did not think I would like a liquid cooled HD either...but I really like the '14-16 TG's, with the liquid cooling and the infotainment center.

Here's another link to a bunch more stuff I've done with this '14.

https://www.triketalk.com/forum/thr...IDE-Report-w-Lots-of-Pics?p=330099#post330099

Kevin

 

[retiredff]

I just sold an '01 Road King with 19k and I was the 3rd owner. It had 6k when I bought it.

My cam chain tensioners went out at 19K! That pissed me off. After talking to a few techs and reading online I found out the tensioners were not the issue, HD just blamed it on the tensioners. The issue was the spring in the pressure relief valve (PRV). The techs I spoke with said u should have them checked from '99 -'16 or all TC 88/96/103. The spring for the PRV would get week from the repeated heat/cool cycles and over time start to release at less than the HD specified 40psi. Some are as low as 18 psi. The reason I brought this up is when your top end was rebuilt did they also tear into the cam chest? They may have tested the PRV and found it releasing way to early and that would cause the top end to be without proper oil and would have caused the issue u had.

 

[DK Custom Products]

I just sold an '01 Road King with 19k and I was the 3rd owner. It had 6k when I bought it.

My cam chain tensioners went out at 19K! That pissed me off. After talking to a few techs and reading online I found out the tensioners were not the issue, HD just blamed it on the tensioners. The issue was the spring in the pressure relief valve (PRV). The techs I spoke with said u should have them checked from '99 -'16 or all TC 88/96/103. The spring for the PRV would get week from the repeated heat/cool cycles and over time start to release at less than the HD specified 40psi. Some are as low as 18 psi. The reason I brought this up is when your top end was rebuilt did they also tear into the cam chest? They may have tested the PRV and found it releasing way to early and that would cause the top end to be without proper oil and would have caused the issue u had.

This is the first I've heard of a cam chain tensioner problem since HD changed the design quite a few years ago.

Yes, on mine everything else was inspected and fine. The top end was not oil starved, it had literally deformed from too much heat. It was still running, but with less power than it should because of out of round cylinders and bad valve seats.

A leak down test should be done on any used bike prior to purchasing.

Harley has done a great job at keeping them running, and not pumping blue smoke, even when cylinders are ovaled out and valves are not seating.

Kevin

 

[retiredff]

Thanks for the tip on the leak down test.

Tony

 

[DK Custom Products]

End of the book on the 2014-

Check out the new thread-

https://www.triketalk.com/forum/thr...-Out-w-lots-of-photos-videos-and-observations

Kevin