Wheel came off on TG

Maybe it was just loose wheels that caused Ford to do a recall on their F550 for broken wheel studs. As it turned out they found about 80% were over tightened with an air gun instead of a torque wrench.

Guy I work with had the misfortune of having a wheel fall off his Jeep for this very reason. He had his Jeep to a local Sears auto center for new tires, they used an impact to tighten the lug nuts. He got quite a way from the store when one wheel come off. Not long ago he decided to take his truck to the same place, told them to use a torque wrench instead of an impact. They didn't listen and he got about 10 miles away were he noticed several of the studs gone when he stopped at the store. He called Sears and they had his truck hauled back where they had to replace the studs at all 4 corners.

When I install a tire on any vehicle I use a torque wrench, no impact and no just hogging them down because I'm a man and I know tight is tight. Yea I'm a man and I know if I tighten them down manly tight I may have over done it and created stress fractures in the stud that will lead to failure.

I think the whole take away from this thread should be awareness. Any bike or trike owner needs to have a certain awareness on the simpler mechanics on his or her ride. On a trike with aluminum rear wheels part of that awareness is checking rear wheel lug nut torque periodically, especially after removal. I have yet to tighten a lug nut on my dads Triglide, or the Triglide I used to own and not get a little when I check them 50 - 100 miles later with the torque wrench. Even then we still check them after long rides or before leaving on a long trip, its just like checking tire pressure.
 
I keep torque wrench and socket in the TG trunk. I Always check lugs before leaving home and if my day trips are over 100 miles, I check them at every other fuel fill up...it only takes an extra 10 minutes and my passenger,aka wife, is certainly worth those ten minutes...ThumbUp
 
I agree with both points of view - how's that for making a decision? :)

If I'm home I will use a torque wrench, if I'm on the road - no.
I was going to say "Who carries a torque wrench in their car" then I read 5X40's post. :D

I think for the most part most people don't even carry a tire pressure gage in their car let alone a torque wrench and if they did, they probably don't know how to use it.

Like what others have said, until I bought a torque wrench I always tightened the lugs "normally" that is, about 3/4 turn past first contact and never had a wheel come off - not saying that's right - it's just what I use to do - and I never re-checked later either.
Back in the day we didn't have the internet and forums to show us our evil ways like we do now. I will start doing that now. :D

Thanks to all that have contributed to this important thread. ThumbUp
 
GaryD...I only carry torque wrench and socket in the Tri Glide trunk, not in car:DThumbUp
Friends in Joliet say it mighty cold up there on the Kankakee River...

You may be the only one. :)

Yes, it's a little cool up here.
Monday and Tuesday it was -20* by me with a wind chill of -42* plus about 12" of snow.

Tomorrow suppose to be near 40* = HEAT WAVE!!! Time to get the TG out on the road. :laugh:
 
You may be the only one. :)

Yes, it's a little cool up here.
Monday and Tuesday it was -20* by me with a wind chill of -42* plus about 12" of snow.

Tomorrow suppose to be near 40* = HEAT WAVE!!! Time to get the TG out on the road. :laugh:

Yea the weather here was crazy this week 40 below wind chills.Snow 2 feet of it..Hwy 55 cars all over. Black ice,and now rain..People driving to fast..
But atleast its in the 30 today..:D
 
Caution if you don't have a torque wrench don't assume standing on the lug wrench will be good. Too much torque will warp the rotor. 80 foot Lb is sufficient. If a wheel comes off it was not tightened properly the 1st time. I can't see why they should get loose .... All 5?
Lowe's sells a decent Wrench for $69.00.. Good insurance..
 
I make sure my lug nuts are seated properly to the wheel, as if they are not they could loosen up and fall off..
They could give you the false impression the lug nuts are tight but in reality they are not seated properly..

Just something to think about when putting on the wheel to the lug bolts and nuts..
 
Again, JMO....A torque wrench is a delicate instrument, it requires to be calibrated, to be set back to zero after every use, should not be bounced around in the trunk of a car or motorcycle, they are for shop use, and a lot of folks don't know how to use them to start with :xzqxz:.

Their are parts of your car and motorcycle where a torque wrench is important and a must ThumbUp.

When I said real men don't need a torque wrench to remove and replace a wheel on a car or a motorcycle I'm saying you don't have to be a 500lb gorilla, any 16 year old boy has the strength to change a flat tire on a car and remove and replace a rear wheel on a trike with out a torque wrench, and knows when the lug nuts are tight, a 16 year girl might not have the upper body strength to do the same, so a long arm torque wrench might be helpful :D.

If a rear wheel on a T/G motorcycle or car comes off while driving, go find the guy who put that wheel on last, he is the cause of it, not that a torque wrench was or was not used ;).

Everyone should ck. the rear wheel lug nuts on their T/G for tightness monthly, or esp. any time the wheel was removed or replaced after 50 to 100 miles.
 
The HD manual states 90 to 100 foot lbs. so I torque mine to 95 foot lbs and always use a torque wrench. I also recheck the torque before any long distance ride. If I take the wheel off I check the torque after 100 miles and then again after another 500 miles. You can't be too safe. I would rather be safe than lazy.
 
After reading this post I went home and checked mine with my torque wrench all 8 lugs moved a little maybe 1/8 to 1/2 turn. only one moved 1/2 turn. just wanted to say thanks for the post.
 
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After reading this post I went home and checked mine with my torque wrench all ten lugs moved a little maybe 1/8 to 1/2 turn. only one moved 1/2 turn. just wanted to say thanks for the post.

You might never find them loose,or move again. But at least one less thing to worry about huh. I try to keep around 95#.
 
I worked for a firestone dealer "in another life " doing wheel alignments for a living . when they hired me they ask how many I could do in a day. as the Chilton book stated 1 hour labor , I told them 7 with a lunch break.
shortly after being hired they were taking in 12 appointments a day and driving me to get them done before going home for the day. I didn't work there very long !
when they push the help that hard things are bound to get missed and in this job people can get killed if you screw up.
how many stories of big mart auto shops leaving the oil plug loose or the oil cap off... have you heard.

whenever I take something to a shop, I check all the important details.
 
An interesting 'heads-up'!

Being relatively new to trike ownership, I'm always interested in safety issues.

This morning I got out the torque wrench and checked out how close the lug nuts were adjusted on my 2013 CSC Viper - the factory calls for 70#. All five on the right wheel were bang on. Three of the five on the left wheel were off a pound. The trike has been on the road since late June 2013 and has 11500 miles on the clock. Wheels have not been removed since the installation.

This CSC Viper continues to make me very happy!
 
Again, JMO....A torque wrench is a delicate instrument, it requires to be calibrated, to be set back to zero after every use, should not be bounced around in the trunk of a car or motorcycle, they are for shop use, and a lot of folks don't know how to use them to start with :xzqxz:.
Everyone should ck. the rear wheel lug nuts on their T/G for tightness monthly, or esp. any time the wheel was removed or replaced after 50 to 100 miles.

Are you saying it needs to be recalibrated after each use??? I bought mine from Sears about 40 years ago and have never had it recalibrated. Never dropped or banged it. Maybe it's time I buy a good "clicker" one. Mine is just a rod type. How do you recalibrate one of those and who does it???
I'm one of "those people" that never check lug nuts. Guess I should start. :)
 
Are you saying it needs to be recalibrated after each use??? I bought mine from Sears about 40 years ago and have never had it recalibrated. Never dropped or banged it. Maybe it's time I buy a good "clicker" one. Mine is just a rod type. How do you recalibrate one of those and who does it???
I'm one of "those people" that never check lug nuts. Guess I should start. :)

To get a torque wrench re-calibrated costs usually 3 to 4 times the value of most home use wrenches. Not worth it. If you want to check the calibration of your wrench get yourself one of the digital torque cubes. You put the end in a vice to hold so you can read the dial & torque wrench in the other. Compare the readings. They tend to be very accurate.
You can use the cube for a full time torque wrench if you like, but they tend to be kind of a pain to read in a lot of applications. Most good ones are around $50-$60 on EBay. The AC Delco cube 1/2" drive goes from 4# to around 150#. You can also use for Inch lb. The digital changes.
The Delco one would be good for the tool bag, but you might have trouble hitting the buttons & having a dead battery all the time.
There are cheaper ones, but most don't have the low range readings. But most have certifications of less than .1% error .
Here is a link for a 1/2" drive:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230724687351?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Just a FYI
Ride safe Ride often!pepper
 
Are you saying it needs to be recalibrated after each use??? I bought mine from Sears about 40 years ago and have never had it recalibrated. Never dropped or banged it. Maybe it's time I buy a good "clicker" one. Mine is just a rod type. How do you recalibrate one of those and who does it???
I'm one of "those people" that never check lug nuts. Guess I should start. :)

No, I'm not saying they need to be recalibrated after each use, each maker may have diff. times theirs need to be recalibrated.
The ones I used in the Military [were the most exp. and made in the USA] had to be recalibrated every 90 days if they were used or not, it should be on the instructions that came with the wrench, but we all know that most men don't reads the instructions on anything unless it wont work :D.

I'm not saying torque wrench's are no good, they are needed on most jobs, how many of you that change your on oil and filter used a torque wrench, or when you changed your spark plugs and replace your leads.
in the maint. man. their is a torque value for just about every nut and bolt on your motorcycle, same as your car.

Garyd, you might do a search on the internet on your wrench and find out how often and how to calibrated the one you have, after 40 years, I'm sure it's over due, good luck ;).
 
I'm a bit of a torque wrench junkie, have a couple Snap-on and 3 Craftsman. The 2 Snap-On are 1/4" drive, one is 10 - 50in/lbs and the other is 10 - 200in/lbs. 2 of th Craftsman are 3/8" drive and the other is 1/2" drive. I love the 10 - 50in/lb wrench for tightening the outer fairing bolts which are 25 - 32in/lbs. If I was buying again I'd be going digital, they are the bomb.

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I'm a bit of a torque wrench junkie, have a couple Snap-on and 3 Craftsman. The 2 Snap-On are 1/4" drive, one is 10 - 50in/lbs and the other is 10 - 200in/lbs. 2 of th Craftsman are 3/8" drive and the other is 1/2" drive. I love the 10 - 50in/lb wrench for tightening the outer fairing bolts which are 25 - 32in/lbs. If I was buying again I'd be going digital, they are the bomb.

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Yes, the digital's are the bomb, they are far more accurate and easer to read, I have had mine some time now.
 
I have a cheap, cheap Harbor Fright, I think $16. I checked it with a $500 + Snap On and they "clicked at the same time!

You got a Little Lucky There my Friend! I'm a Licensed Automotive Tech by Trade, and while I was working at a G.M Dealership at one Point, I decided to "Treat" my self to a New Torque wrench for a Job I knew was coming in the next day. Bought a New one off the MAC truck, because Snappy was the Day After this Job was coming in, and Quite Honestly, I Simply Didn't want to wait.
Well, did The Job, it was a New Crank and Bearings on a Brand New Park Avenue, with only a Couple of hundred Kilom. on it. Sounded OK, Drove OK on the Test Drive. Customer took it to Toronto the Next Day, (App. 180 Miles) didn't Quite Make shall we say. He Had it put on a Flat Bed and brought back to our Dealership. To make a Long Story Short, Turns out the Torque Wrench I Bought, was Out of Calibration SO Bad, that at 100 on the Wrench, it was ACTUALLY 160! They Replaced it, did some fancy paper work for the Repairs, and Almost everybody was happy, except Me. I Ended up Buying a Snappy, and Compared it to a Couple of others in the Shop, and it was within a pound of the ones we checked it against. Why wasn't I Happy you ask? I Had to do the Job All over Again, at Warranty Rate! :mad: I'm the One that got Screwed on That Job....... :censored:
I'm off on Disability Now, but before I had to go off, I Had Bought myself a REAL Nice Snap-On Digital. I LOVE it. Don't Get to Use it all that much these days, but When I Do, It's GREAT! :10:
 
OK, where can you buy a good digital wrench 10-50ips and a 10-200 fps at a reasonable price?
And how much does it cost to get them recalibrated?

For the amount of times I use one, I may just keep the ones I have, unless the prices are low enough to justify.
 
OK, where can you buy a good digital wrench 10-50ips and a 10-200 fps at a reasonable price?
And how much does it cost to get them recalibrated?

For the amount of times I use one, I may just keep the ones I have, unless the prices are low enough to justify.

If you let torque wrenches set for long periods make sure you back them off' or they'll take a set and give an incorrect reading next time you use it...
 
I guess that'll work on a clicker wrench, but not for a beam wrench. How would a beam wrench get out of calibration....if it's never been dropped or jarred - just old age and metal fatigue??

Calgary, I did check google, but there are so many places and prices. I was mainly looking for someone with first hand experience with a company and a brand/quality of a wrench.
 

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