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rmrc51
Lost In The 50's
Re: Guns?
I use to shoot competition Trap years ago. Still have a nice collection. Notice I said, "Collection". I haven't shot any of them in years!
Maybe one of these days I'll get back to the range again.
I use to shoot competition Trap years ago. Still have a nice collection. Notice I said, "Collection". I haven't shot any of them in years!
Maybe one of these days I'll get back to the range again.
Metal Storm
You have got to check out this video on the Metal Storm weapons system. I want one!!!
I really want one of the pistols!
You have got to check out this video on the Metal Storm weapons system. I want one!!!
I really want one of the pistols!
Re: Guns?
I carry Keltec in a 9mm. Nice gun to hide.
I carry Keltec in a 9mm. Nice gun to hide.
Re: Guns?
Kelltec is a nice gun, but I don't like the kick of the 9mm. I prefer the 380 or the 32. I tote the Glock 26 sub with the extended clip so my pinkie does not dangle.... My other carry is my Sig Sauer P229 in 357sig. Double taps get tough with the sig, but you need less sugar with a 357sig corbon +p round!
Kelltec is a nice gun, but I don't like the kick of the 9mm. I prefer the 380 or the 32. I tote the Glock 26 sub with the extended clip so my pinkie does not dangle.... My other carry is my Sig Sauer P229 in 357sig. Double taps get tough with the sig, but you need less sugar with a 357sig corbon +p round!
a Truly Great Warning
I ordered a part for my AR a few months ago and on the label was the a truly great warning.
Now I have read warnings in the past, but this one seemed to characterize the essence of what a true warning should do.....
Warning:
The handling and use of firearms bears with it certain unavoidable risks, like sky diving and rock climbing. If you are not willing to accept the responsibility for your own actions, guns are not for you.
That my friends is a work of art.
I ordered a part for my AR a few months ago and on the label was the a truly great warning.
Now I have read warnings in the past, but this one seemed to characterize the essence of what a true warning should do.....
Warning:
The handling and use of firearms bears with it certain unavoidable risks, like sky diving and rock climbing. If you are not willing to accept the responsibility for your own actions, guns are not for you.
That my friends is a work of art.
Re: a Truly Great Warning
That IS a work of art! Now can we paste that on every motorcycle and trike too? and on a number of other items..... No wait. Can't we paste that warning on life? Too many don't seem to understand personal responsibility.
That IS a work of art! Now can we paste that on every motorcycle and trike too? and on a number of other items..... No wait. Can't we paste that warning on life? Too many don't seem to understand personal responsibility.
Re: a Truly Great Warning
Roger that, Mattel! And like Nana said, that's a warning that belongs on the whole adventure of adult life. If you can't take responsibility for your own actions, you should just stay in your house, never turn on the computer or TV, never eat or drink anything, never read a newspaper or a book, never...you get the idea.
If you are not willing to accept responsibility for your own actions, LIFE is not for you!
Roger that, Mattel! And like Nana said, that's a warning that belongs on the whole adventure of adult life. If you can't take responsibility for your own actions, you should just stay in your house, never turn on the computer or TV, never eat or drink anything, never read a newspaper or a book, never...you get the idea.
If you are not willing to accept responsibility for your own actions, LIFE is not for you!
Re: Guns?
Hey Mattel, how do you like your Glock26? That is what I have, along with a S&W 459. Glock is what I carry. Smith is my house gun, along with a 12 gauge. I looked at a keltec 380 and shot it, but it stovepiped about every 3 rd. The Glock was flawless. bigred.
Hey Mattel, how do you like your Glock26? That is what I have, along with a S&W 459. Glock is what I carry. Smith is my house gun, along with a 12 gauge. I looked at a keltec 380 and shot it, but it stovepiped about every 3 rd. The Glock was flawless. bigred.
Re: Guns?
Bigred,
The keltec will stovepipe if you use flat tip rounds. You need to use round tips only. No p+ either since it has an a light barrel. Each one has it's advantage. The G26 is dependable, it goes bang every time you pull the trigger. But it is heavy, it has the nick name of the block. The keltec is small and does not print very much if at all. I have had a keltec for years and it works flawlessly if you use the correct ammo. If you have jamming problems you can send it back to Keltec and they will fix it for free. If you like your g26 for cary try the Galco first freedom holster or my favorite the Skyopps. Be safe.
Bigred,
The keltec will stovepipe if you use flat tip rounds. You need to use round tips only. No p+ either since it has an a light barrel. Each one has it's advantage. The G26 is dependable, it goes bang every time you pull the trigger. But it is heavy, it has the nick name of the block. The keltec is small and does not print very much if at all. I have had a keltec for years and it works flawlessly if you use the correct ammo. If you have jamming problems you can send it back to Keltec and they will fix it for free. If you like your g26 for cary try the Galco first freedom holster or my favorite the Skyopps. Be safe.
Re: Guns?
New Gun Licensing bill.
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> Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45
> introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm
> Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.
>
> We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles
> radio program. Even gun shop owners didn't know about
> this because it is flying under the radar.
>
> To find out about this - go to any government website and
> type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing
> & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the
> information.
>
> Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any
> rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
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> It
> is registered
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> You
> are fingerprinted
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> You
> supply a current Driver's License
>
> You
> supply your Social Security #
>
> You
> will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any
> time of their choosing
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> Each update - change or ownership through private or public
> sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you
> automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are
> subject up to a year in jail.
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> There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305
> stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and
> inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the
> right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun
> safely away from accessibility to children and fine is
> punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.
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>
>
> If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take
> your pick of many options to read this. It is long and
> lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of
> this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family -
> pass this along.
>
>
>
> Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him
> on KHOW 630 a.m. in the morning. He suggests the best
> way to fight this is to tell all your friends about it and
> "spring into action". Also he suggests we all
> join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association,
> hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA.
>
>
>
> This is just a "termite" approach to complete
> confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the
> point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there
> until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.
>
>
>
> This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.
>
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>
> Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
>
> OpenCongress - U.S. Congress - H.R.45 Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009
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> H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)
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New Gun Licensing bill.
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45
> introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm
> Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.
>
> We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles
> radio program. Even gun shop owners didn't know about
> this because it is flying under the radar.
>
> To find out about this - go to any government website and
> type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing
> & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the
> information.
>
> Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any
> rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:
>
>
>
> It
> is registered
>
> You
> are fingerprinted
>
> You
> supply a current Driver's License
>
> You
> supply your Social Security #
>
> You
> will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any
> time of their choosing
>
>
>
> Each update - change or ownership through private or public
> sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you
> automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are
> subject up to a year in jail.
>
>
>
> There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305
> stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and
> inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the
> right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun
> safely away from accessibility to children and fine is
> punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.
>
>
>
> If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take
> your pick of many options to read this. It is long and
> lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of
> this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family -
> pass this along.
>
>
>
> Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him
> on KHOW 630 a.m. in the morning. He suggests the best
> way to fight this is to tell all your friends about it and
> "spring into action". Also he suggests we all
> join a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association,
> hunting associations, gun clubs and especially the NRA.
>
>
>
> This is just a "termite" approach to complete
> confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the
> point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there
> until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.
>
>
>
> This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not.
>
>
>
> Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
>
> OpenCongress - U.S. Congress - H.R.45 Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009
>
> H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)
>
Re: Guns?
Hi all, I'm in Colorado and am considering getting my CC permit. Don't really know a lot about guns. I bought a S&W 38 special, back in the 70s that I keep next to the bed, and use for plinkin at targets. Don't have a lot to spend on a CC, really trying not to go over 500.00, and I prefer new. Any thoughts on the S&W M&P compact .40.
Other suggestions? Thanks.
Hi all, I'm in Colorado and am considering getting my CC permit. Don't really know a lot about guns. I bought a S&W 38 special, back in the 70s that I keep next to the bed, and use for plinkin at targets. Don't have a lot to spend on a CC, really trying not to go over 500.00, and I prefer new. Any thoughts on the S&W M&P compact .40.
Other suggestions? Thanks.
Re: Guns?
FB,
I hear that many shops are running specials on Subcompact Glocks. I have been hearing $450.00. That is a spectacular price. The M&P subcompact is also a great CC pistol. The best way to decide is to go to your local range and rent or borrow one and try it out. .40 or 9mm are great choices. The choice is more rounds and smaller holes for the 9mm, and it is easyer to double tap, and control three round sequences. The .40 will make bigger holes, but it is more difficult to do multiple double taps and stay tight with your groups. What ever you get buy the mags soon.
Good luck.
FB,
I hear that many shops are running specials on Subcompact Glocks. I have been hearing $450.00. That is a spectacular price. The M&P subcompact is also a great CC pistol. The best way to decide is to go to your local range and rent or borrow one and try it out. .40 or 9mm are great choices. The choice is more rounds and smaller holes for the 9mm, and it is easyer to double tap, and control three round sequences. The .40 will make bigger holes, but it is more difficult to do multiple double taps and stay tight with your groups. What ever you get buy the mags soon.
Good luck.
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- #74
Re: Guns?
My only comment is that the FBI carries 40 cal. I carry 40 cal both on and off duty. I carry Glock both on and off duty. Never had a miss fire or a hang no matter what i put through it. Ted
My only comment is that the FBI carries 40 cal. I carry 40 cal both on and off duty. I carry Glock both on and off duty. Never had a miss fire or a hang no matter what i put through it. Ted
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- Admin
- #75
Re: Guns?
They arent my CC guns but I do have both a 40cal and a 9mm and was surprised how much more punch the 40 has.
They arent my CC guns but I do have both a 40cal and a 9mm and was surprised how much more punch the 40 has.
- Moderator
- #77
Re: Guns?
Good choice. If you wing someone with a nine they can still be a threat. You wing someone with a 40 they are less of a threat. My Glock 27 carries 9 in the mag plus 1 and my Glock 23 13 in the mag plus 1. As a professional weapon carrier if I can not put them down with that I should not be carrying. Also push come to shove I can put my 23 mag into the 27 for the increased capacity for something planned. Being my 2 guns are the same manufacture and caliber they do fire some what the same. Remember a familiar weapon in a more accurate weapon.
Please remember a weapon is not to intimate someone. Think about it, if you point a gun at someone be prepared physically and emotionally to kill that person. You do NOT shoot to wing them, you must be prepared to kill them. A sobering thought but one you have to come to grips with if you are going to carry. Ted
Good choice. If you wing someone with a nine they can still be a threat. You wing someone with a 40 they are less of a threat. My Glock 27 carries 9 in the mag plus 1 and my Glock 23 13 in the mag plus 1. As a professional weapon carrier if I can not put them down with that I should not be carrying. Also push come to shove I can put my 23 mag into the 27 for the increased capacity for something planned. Being my 2 guns are the same manufacture and caliber they do fire some what the same. Remember a familiar weapon in a more accurate weapon.
Please remember a weapon is not to intimate someone. Think about it, if you point a gun at someone be prepared physically and emotionally to kill that person. You do NOT shoot to wing them, you must be prepared to kill them. A sobering thought but one you have to come to grips with if you are going to carry. Ted
Re: Guns?
I have to admit, I'm a gun nut!
I have shot Trap since 1988 and have shot some skeet and some sporting clays.
I also shoot target 22's and have several of them. My most recent adiction has been the ruger 10/22. I've owned them before but I got the bug to build a ultimate 10/22 so I found a forum called RFC Home and several hundred dollars later I have a tack driver that the only thing left that is stock ruger is the charging handle and the frame.
I also have a few pistols. My wife and I have carry permits and we both carry s&w s.s. 38's that shoot the plus P ammo.
I love guns and have all my life next to motorcycles they are my biggest vise.
Okie
Tulsa, Ok.
I have to admit, I'm a gun nut!
I have shot Trap since 1988 and have shot some skeet and some sporting clays.
I also shoot target 22's and have several of them. My most recent adiction has been the ruger 10/22. I've owned them before but I got the bug to build a ultimate 10/22 so I found a forum called RFC Home and several hundred dollars later I have a tack driver that the only thing left that is stock ruger is the charging handle and the frame.
I also have a few pistols. My wife and I have carry permits and we both carry s&w s.s. 38's that shoot the plus P ammo.
I love guns and have all my life next to motorcycles they are my biggest vise.
Okie
Tulsa, Ok.
Re: Guns?
If you carry a 38,a bebee gun would just as good, i carry a G30 while riding, aG23 for home protection, they were great when was on duty, so a carry over for retirement, most action is within 10', if needed you need knockdown power, with devious persons with guns on the increase, year after year, hesitation will further your demise, democratics liberals will attempt to take this from you.
DJ
BK MI VI
MI PGR
If you carry a 38,a bebee gun would just as good, i carry a G30 while riding, aG23 for home protection, they were great when was on duty, so a carry over for retirement, most action is within 10', if needed you need knockdown power, with devious persons with guns on the increase, year after year, hesitation will further your demise, democratics liberals will attempt to take this from you.
DJ
BK MI VI
MI PGR
10/22's
Okie,
If you love the 10/22 you have to pick up the Ruger Charger 10/22. It is the same as the rifle but with a short 8" barrel! I love 10/22's and I own 3 of them. The charger is the best one to plink with. I put a red dot sight on it and I load 30, 25, and 50 round mags and plink away!!!! All my friends like to play with it. I also have a 10/22 bulpup and my custom built tack driver with the voltlscomp (mispelled I am sure) trigger. You need to get a charger while you still can, I am sure this one will be banned quicker that you can flick a fly off S&*t!
Okie,
If you love the 10/22 you have to pick up the Ruger Charger 10/22. It is the same as the rifle but with a short 8" barrel! I love 10/22's and I own 3 of them. The charger is the best one to plink with. I put a red dot sight on it and I load 30, 25, and 50 round mags and plink away!!!! All my friends like to play with it. I also have a 10/22 bulpup and my custom built tack driver with the voltlscomp (mispelled I am sure) trigger. You need to get a charger while you still can, I am sure this one will be banned quicker that you can flick a fly off S&*t!
Re: Guns?
Mattel, I've looked at the Charger and didn't think I'd shoot one that much but not you have me thinking otherwise.
The $300.00 price tag has slowed me down a tad also.
Just now getting some decent weather to shoot 22's around here. We start shooting the BR50 in April and I'm ready for that.
Maybe the new will be worn off the trike by then and I can devote some more time to the 22's. LOL
Okie
Tulsa, Ok
Mattel, I've looked at the Charger and didn't think I'd shoot one that much but not you have me thinking otherwise.
The $300.00 price tag has slowed me down a tad also.
Just now getting some decent weather to shoot 22's around here. We start shooting the BR50 in April and I'm ready for that.
Maybe the new will be worn off the trike by then and I can devote some more time to the 22's. LOL
Okie
Tulsa, Ok
- Moderator
- #82
Re: Guns?
Okie, say it isn't so GUN shooting over Riding?????? Wash your mouth out with soap.
Okie, say it isn't so GUN shooting over Riding?????? Wash your mouth out with soap.
Charger 10/22
Okie,
When they came out last spring they were $215 at my local shop. Now SBR's are in high demand. Try Guntrader.com if you get serious, I think they are still in the mid 200's. The new 50rd mags make it fun to plink, just watch the dirt fly until you tag your target. One box one mag is nice too. For about cents a round you cannot go wrong.
Tmigla, don't be silly, you take the trike to the range!
Okie,
When they came out last spring they were $215 at my local shop. Now SBR's are in high demand. Try Guntrader.com if you get serious, I think they are still in the mid 200's. The new 50rd mags make it fun to plink, just watch the dirt fly until you tag your target. One box one mag is nice too. For about cents a round you cannot go wrong.
Tmigla, don't be silly, you take the trike to the range!
- Moderator
- #84
Re: Charger 10/22
I can only get the M-16 in the Police Cruiser. They frown on me carring it on the trike.
I can only get the M-16 in the Police Cruiser. They frown on me carring it on the trike.
rmrc51
Lost In The 50's
Rough Waters ahead!
If this type of information is not allowed on this forum please accept my apologies and have it removed. I hope it is allowed.
Hate to be the deliverer of bad news. I just received this e-mail yesterday from a buddy of mine up north. As far as how factual it is I can't say but it definitely is the same story we've heard before. And now with the Dems in FULL control,,, well,,, watch out!
===================================================
Subject: The Gun Ban list is out.
>
> Here it is folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is
> always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to
> impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a
> brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you
> own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in
> the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that
> for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know
> that you did. Please send this to everyone you can. It will come up for a
> vote, and it might even be a secret vote if Madame Pelosi has her way, and
> then it will be a done deal. ...thanks to Colonel Rus
>
> Right to own a gun Remember, The first step in establishing a dictatorship
> is to disarm the citizens.
>
> Subject: Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Democrats have already leaked a
> gun-ban list.
>
> Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term
> memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under
> the Bush administration when they knew full well it had nochance of passage
> (HR 1022, 110th Congress) It serves as a framework for the new list the
> Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current
> plans and targets of opportunity, It's horrific. They're going after the
> courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out
> effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals.
> Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
> bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
> confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
> more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current
> gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):
>
> Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
> M1 Carbine,
> Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
> AR-15,
> Bushmaster XM15,
> Armalite M15,
> AR-10,
> Thompson 1927,
> Thompson M1;
> AK,
> AKM,
> AKS,
> AK-47 ,
> AK-74,
> ARM,
> MAK90,
> NHM 90,
> NHM 91,
> SA 85,
> SA 93,
> VEPR;
> Olympic Arms PCR;
> AR70,
> Calico Liberty ,
> Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,
> or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927
> Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable
> magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter,
> Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
> Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
> Calico M-110,
> MAC-10,
> MAC-11, or MPA3,
> Olympic Arms OA,
> TEC-9,
> TEC-DC9,
> TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
> Uzi.
> Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
> Armscor 30 BG,
> SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
> Striker 12,
> Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
> A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
> (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
> (ii) a threaded barrel,
> (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip,
> see below),
> (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
> Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
> rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
> A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine,
> and has:
> (i) a second pistol grip,
> (ii) a threaded barrel,
> (iii) a barrel shroud or
> (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
> (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
> than 10 rounds.
> A semiautomatic shotgun with:
> (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
> (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
> (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine
> capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
> (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
> Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
>
>
> Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the
> proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or
> shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a
> firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly
> suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."
>
> Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the
> Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working
> firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says,
> "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by
> the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly
> suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be
> particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is
> suitable for use in a sporting event."
>
> In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal
> officers or the military is not suitable for the public. The last part is
> particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose
> just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what?
> And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no
> constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic
> enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of
> disarming the innocent.
>
> Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
> Gun Laws of America
>
> Forward or send to every gun owner you know...
If this type of information is not allowed on this forum please accept my apologies and have it removed. I hope it is allowed.
Hate to be the deliverer of bad news. I just received this e-mail yesterday from a buddy of mine up north. As far as how factual it is I can't say but it definitely is the same story we've heard before. And now with the Dems in FULL control,,, well,,, watch out!
===================================================
Subject: The Gun Ban list is out.
>
> Here it is folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is
> always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to
> impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a
> brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you
> own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in
> the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that
> for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know
> that you did. Please send this to everyone you can. It will come up for a
> vote, and it might even be a secret vote if Madame Pelosi has her way, and
> then it will be a done deal. ...thanks to Colonel Rus
>
> Right to own a gun Remember, The first step in establishing a dictatorship
> is to disarm the citizens.
>
> Subject: Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Democrats have already leaked a
> gun-ban list.
>
> Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term
> memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under
> the Bush administration when they knew full well it had nochance of passage
> (HR 1022, 110th Congress) It serves as a framework for the new list the
> Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current
> plans and targets of opportunity, It's horrific. They're going after the
> courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out
> effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals.
> Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
> bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
> confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
> more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current
> gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):
>
> Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
> M1 Carbine,
> Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
> AR-15,
> Bushmaster XM15,
> Armalite M15,
> AR-10,
> Thompson 1927,
> Thompson M1;
> AK,
> AKM,
> AKS,
> AK-47 ,
> AK-74,
> ARM,
> MAK90,
> NHM 90,
> NHM 91,
> SA 85,
> SA 93,
> VEPR;
> Olympic Arms PCR;
> AR70,
> Calico Liberty ,
> Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,
> or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, Thompson 1927
> Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable
> magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter,
> Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
> Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
> Calico M-110,
> MAC-10,
> MAC-11, or MPA3,
> Olympic Arms OA,
> TEC-9,
> TEC-DC9,
> TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
> Uzi.
> Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
> Armscor 30 BG,
> SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
> Striker 12,
> Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
> A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
> (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
> (ii) a threaded barrel,
> (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip,
> see below),
> (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
> Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
> rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
> A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine,
> and has:
> (i) a second pistol grip,
> (ii) a threaded barrel,
> (iii) a barrel shroud or
> (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
> (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more
> than 10 rounds.
> A semiautomatic shotgun with:
> (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
> (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
> (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine
> capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
> (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
> Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
>
>
> Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the
> proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or
> shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a
> firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly
> suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."
>
> Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the
> Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working
> firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says,
> "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by
> the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly
> suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be
> particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is
> suitable for use in a sporting event."
>
> In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal
> officers or the military is not suitable for the public. The last part is
> particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose
> just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what?
> And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no
> constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic
> enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of
> disarming the innocent.
>
> Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
> Gun Laws of America
>
> Forward or send to every gun owner you know...
Trikerjim
Tour Master
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Went to the bike rally and came home with a new baby...:yes: BTW I stopped by the gun shop on the way home, didn't find it at the rally..
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Went to the bike rally and came home with a new baby...:yes: BTW I stopped by the gun shop on the way home, didn't find it at the rally..
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i love guns all types
i have and carry a 9mm luger a concealed weapons permit for georgia which covers about 10 states around my area. i also have a 270 for deer hunting. next tax season will buy another pistol and a guage.
i love guns all types
i have and carry a 9mm luger a concealed weapons permit for georgia which covers about 10 states around my area. i also have a 270 for deer hunting. next tax season will buy another pistol and a guage.
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I am new here. I go by Don Pam that is me and my wife. We both ride, she has a kowie 750 Vulcan I ride a 800 Suzuki intruder. But I am going to build a trike.
Guns we both open carry, I got us both a matching pair of Ruger p95's nine mm, for Valentines Day, untill then she carried a S&W 38, and I carried unknown 25. We both love to shoot and go to the range as often as we can.We live in Arizona and this is an open carry State, we also have a ccw here to but I belive that we do not need to carry that way. I belive that I have stoped trouble just because I have my gun in plain sight. I have talked to a lot of the Police here and have not had a single one that has any thing bad to say about being armed, as a fact, they to a man said that they whished that all who can would.
I am new here. I go by Don Pam that is me and my wife. We both ride, she has a kowie 750 Vulcan I ride a 800 Suzuki intruder. But I am going to build a trike.
Guns we both open carry, I got us both a matching pair of Ruger p95's nine mm, for Valentines Day, untill then she carried a S&W 38, and I carried unknown 25. We both love to shoot and go to the range as often as we can.We live in Arizona and this is an open carry State, we also have a ccw here to but I belive that we do not need to carry that way. I belive that I have stoped trouble just because I have my gun in plain sight. I have talked to a lot of the Police here and have not had a single one that has any thing bad to say about being armed, as a fact, they to a man said that they whished that all who can would.
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