Anyone else?

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Machine work is a must going inverted.
If you don't have access to a shop then do it with money. Call rancho transaxle.

Best bet is do not invert.
Just move the ring to the other side and do the shim work. Then just live with it being 9+ inches off the ground.

Bad Ass Trikes company has (maybe had, it has been a while ) all the parts to do a normal (not inverted) trike.
Their drive components looked weak to me and I did not trust them. Probably ok for a 50hp stocker.
Mine is a hot rod. Old engine around 160hp.
New engine is going for 200hp. My trans has a lot of other mods inside it also.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

How is you weld and fab skills and tools?

None of the vw suspension is usable on a mid.

You will have to buy (if you can find) or build yourself all the rear suspension.

A swing axle is easiest. The swing arms are much simpler than an irs would be.

Mine is a swing and is narrowed a lot.

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A bad ass trike company kit build.

Pretty cool. Just not what I wanted.

 

[slick rick]

ThumbUpAre you changing the front , thought I seen a set of rockers for a springer ?

 

[vw driver]

I can weld and fab. I do have a swing axle as well as an 2 IRS trans. So if I didn't shorten the axles the stock suspension would work? The inversion is done just to get it lower? I'd want to keep the build as simple as possible being it would be the first try. I'd be using a stock motor so stock components should work. I just latched onto a good running Manx style dune buggy so of course my first thought is how to make it into trike. The front engine would be interesting project. I am just trying to determine if it would be something my skills could handle and cost would be a consideration also. I'll go to the websites and see whats up. Thanks.

 

[vw driver]

I went to Bad Assed Trikes and I think maybe I am beginning to grasp the concept. The ring and carrier swap changes the rotation, the extra trans case is used to lengthen the trike, otherwise you'd be sitting on the engine. Stock suspension won't work as you said. Am I right so far? I'll do some more searching and see what I can find. Thanks.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Yep.
You got it.
They don't do inverted.
That is a Rex thing....lol.... i always hafta be different.

A swing axle can be squatted some. The wheels camber badly and drive bad.
Squatting a swing means the axle bearings have no oil at all. Pack them with grease and they will last a little while. The fulcrum plates will gall up if you go very far down the road with it.
Squatting an irs would work fine. Might could run slightly shorter axles.
I do not know of anyone that makes the suspension for an irs set up. You would probably have to build that one yourself.

Take all the inerds out of the irs and put in the swing case if it is a 12v case.
Or if not then put the swing side plates and carrier in the irs case. Run the axles straight no squat. It would be the easiest way to go. The swing arms would be simpler to build. And you could narrow it if you wanted.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

ThumbUpAre you changing the front , thought I seen a set of rockers for a springer ?

Yep..
Making that stainless steel springer I have always talked about. Nothing long. Short and stocky as far as springer go. Going to a taller 90/90x19 tire and single disc. Thinner dirt bike tank and painting it.

Engine is getting fuel injection and distributer less. Bored and stroked some more. Bigger cam. Think I have a set of tri-y headers in my head that just may work.

Hey do you have a set of 1.4 ratio rockers? I could trade out my 1.25 ratio.
Crank hit the cam. Gotta get my lift with more ratio.

 

[vw driver]

I found one that only looks like he used only one trans case. A lot simpler to build but sitting on the engine might be a little uncomfortable. Just kicking it around right now. I'll have to go out and rummage through my junk pile and see what kind of parts I have. Thanks.

 

[slick rick]

No I don't Rex ,, gonna have it ready by spring you think ? We got a ride planned down the trace in April , may see you down that way .

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I found one that only looks like he used only one trans case. A lot simpler to build but sitting on the engine might be a little uncomfortable. Just kicking it around right now. I'll have to go out and rummage through my junk pile and see what kind of parts I have. Thanks.
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I like the looks of that build VW driver ,,,don't know if I ever mentioned this I was borned in Tocoma ,,,wayyyyy back in 56 !!!!:AGGHH:

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

I want it back together by spring.
I have a lot to do though.
I have it in the chopper underground biker build off. Maybe that will keep me inspired to get to work on it.

There is not an exit off the trace at vicksburg.
But the trace is only a couple miles away from the house. We run up and down the trace between port Gibson and Ratliff ferry at the northern end of the reservoir.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Front end mock up.

 

[slick rick]

Rex why did you not drill bolt for grease fittings ? I have to remove my bolts and manually rub grease in mine twice a summer . I found that out the hard way by almost seizing the bushing in one of my rockers . They will seize and began to ride terrible without a little grease .:AGGHH:

That's a darn nice job on those rockers , I need to have a little longer set built to decrease my trail by three inches .ThumbUp

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Grease fitting is on the outer body instead of through the bolt. Goes to the same place.
The fork leg is solid bar. But i drilled a pocket above the pivot that can fill with grease from the bottom. I should have area for several years worth of grease.

 

[slick rick]

I didn't see the other seen the one doesn't take much grease but those brass bushing get a little peed off when they get dry .

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Yeah well..... the spring link is not finished.
But i could not wait to put up a pic.
The link will be 3/4 ss and more bushings.

 

[slick rick]

Yep that's the one I was talking about but your on it , that's gonna be a nice heavy front end keep those pics coming and I will hold off on my questions a little longer . LOL

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Them are shoulder bushings. One in from each side. Has an 1/8 gap in the middle that I am hitting with the grease fitting.
Working some here some there. No real focus yet.
I gotta blast and paint the frame and start working pieces back onto it.
I have a good bit more machine work to do in my case also. I probably should not have went 86 stroke. Just ain't nuff room in there.
O well..... probably will need even more gear. I might look into a little taller rear tire.

 

[slick rick]

Taller tires may do the trick , I run a 18 with low profile on back and really have more top speed than I'm gonna use . Much more than that and it gets nasty , of course my little HP compared to yours may not help you but I think it will . Keep us posted can't wait to see the finished product .


One ting you will know is it's not a lot of shiny parts bought and glued on from some aftermarket super store . One off custom build ,,,GOTTA MAKE YOU RITE PROUD ,,, keep on pounding and get that thing ready for spring .ThumbUpThumbUp

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Working on the spring link.

 

[slick rick]

NICE ThumbUp ready to see that front end . You cut that with a plasma or CNC

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Cnc water jet.
Some more machine work to go.
Probably all be done on manual knee mill unless I decide on something fancy.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Added up all the numbers. Looks like my pistons are gonna be out the top of the hole by .220".

So making some big spacers for the jugs.

Cut and ground.

Cleaned up at .241"

 

[slick rick]

ThumbUp Amazing what a man will put himself through to get more HP , as a x trucker I know the need for more HP .

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Did a little machine shop time after work.

Front end spring link pieces.



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Cylinders and pistons came in today.





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Anybody need?

Eagle 2241 cam used

Eagle 2246 cam used

Empi lube a lobe lifters new

Empi 1.25 ratio rockers used

Four SS 35.5 valves new

Four 35.5 valve seats new

Looking to get 1.4 ratio rockers for the new build.

 

[slick rick]

ThumbUp Saving yourself a lot of extra upkeep , work , with those grease inserts ,,,nice job Rex !!!! ThumbUp

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Mmmmm cam.

Is there such a thing as too much?

 

[slick rick]

As a owner operator trucker and a lover of HOT RODS I'd have to say ,,,,NAAAAA

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Well I did go a few steps larger than most people do on the street. Thinking I can get away with it.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Case is bored for the 94's



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With the spacers.



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First mock up of the front end.

 

[slick rick]

ThumbUpThumbUp,,,Front end looks great Rex , ThumbUpThumbUp . Do you think that's enough recoil with one shock ?