Anyone else?

[vwbug72501]

Just make sure the jig has big enough speakers to get the correct sound! :laugh::laugh:

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Made some trouble shooting progress today.

I did recieve a module from an internet friend.

But nope that was not the problem.

I tryed a few more things and still no joy.

So I built the test rig.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Once I could put a steady input into the system it became clear I had a power supply problem.

Yep.... a wiring issue. The fuel pump relay was powering down the coil pack.

I am going to have to add another relay to seperate some of the sub systems.

No biggie really. But now to get all the electrical back together and squeeze another relay in somewhere.

Yhen back to proofing out the next piece.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Ok......so the wire harness is all soldered back together where I cut it up chasing the problem.

Then moved a couple things and a couple modifications. All to make it boot in a different order. The ford ignition module has to boot first so the computer sees it when it boots. Otherwise the computer thinks it is missing or bad and then shuts down the engine relay.

Now to put the harness back on the scooter.

Ahhhh the joys of mix and match parts......

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Here is the computer thinking the ignition is bad because it was not powered up before computer.



Now all stuffed back in there.

Not as neat as it seemed the first time.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

And it powers up, no computer resets.

 

[LarryA]

lookin good!

impressive setup.....lotsa stuff in a small package. couple of questions? assuming edis is red/white sticker, what is the larger black box near the relay bank, and where are the injector drivers located? are the injectors timed and batch fired? i suppose relays for fuel pump, ign. and injector drive power are12v pos. then computer grounds inj. and coil driver circuits . sorry for all the ?? but very interesting!

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

That is the fuse box and relays on a bracket.



This is the edis mounted on the megasquirt box.



The coil drivers are on the board in the box.

Two drivers. Two banks. Two o2. Two tables.

One driver batching 1 and 3.

The other batching 2 and 4.

 

[LarryA]

thanks

wow! there is a lot of electrical/electronics stuffed in that bay. have been looking u-tube on miata/mega squirt installation and tuning.....some on using an auto tune program and some without. starting to understand basics. this should be vastly superior to a carbed setup. just getting away from long/cold intake runners will improve drivability. anyhow thanks for the info, and good luck with the tune!

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Yep.

Vw starter that I cut in two and put back together with the solenoid turned in.

Ford truck fuel pump.

Computer.

Ford edis module.

Honda fuse box.

Industrial relay bank.

Clutch linkage.

Ignition switch.

Shifter rod passes through there.

Brake line crosses over right there also.

Exhaust pipe passes through right under all that.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Starting on a gas tank.

Working the bottom into shape.

Then will probably mock up with posterboard.

Looking to be a bunch of flat side sorta like a stealth fighter.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Poster board mock up of gas tank.

Sorta....mehhhh...whatever.

Not real excited about it. Now I remember why I made the other tank so wide and big. But then again I am trying for more of a hot rod chopper look instead of cruiser look.







But it will look totally different plastered with the advertising stickers that came with various parts.

 

[peteg59]

Doesn't look too bad IMO. Sort of a modified coffin style...?

Capacity might be a concern, depending on your riding style, but it's fuel injection setup should help on MPG?

Are you planning on fiberglas, or some type of metal for it?

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

I am gonna let it sink in for day.

I already am thinking of a couple different lines from the seat to the top that might make it what I want it to be.

And...

Stainless steel of course. Bare unpainted.

The backbone of this thing is long. The old tank held 8 gallons. But that is the first thing everyone said about it....."dang...thats a big tank".....

I was like.....well its a dang car engine in a motorcyle waddaya expect?

But still I did not have capacity problems and I do want something sporty, hot roddy

 

[vwbug72501]

Rex,

You are a truly demented person. Great build!! :clapping:

Couple of thoughts.

The rest of the lines of your trike are smooth and round. Front and rear fender lines are round, seat has rounded curves, etc. An angular tank doesn't seem to blend in to the overall design. How's your English wheel or hammer and sand bag skills?

Maybe you could add a non-functional front section to the tank (angular or rounded) ala Roth or early Stires trike to give a forward motion to the tank.



Just my $ .02.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Yeah.....I just dont have a wheel.

Was thinking flats would work this time around.

I dunno..... still figuring it out.

The old tank was a buncha smaller flats with bondo smoothing it out.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

I cut up a dirt bike gas tank.

Plan B.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

A quick mock up.

Lots work to do.

 

[LarryA]

like that dirtbike tank

this last tank gots more attitude, and is leaner looking than the stealth tank......if you go with the stealth i would taper the front of the tank to blend into the neck.ie the top square would become triangular narrowing as it approached the neck... just my .02

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Trying to shape up that dirt bike tank.

 

[peteg59]

The bottom pic sort of looks like a PEZ dispenser:Shrug: Probably just the angle, but it's not a bad thing IMO.:clapping:

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Yeah it is still a work in progress.

Still thinking of a few more pieces.

Since this pic I have widened it so it is wider than the frame tubes.

Next might be something on the top side to blend in better.

Sorta liking the general attitude, just not there yet.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Some more.





Which gas cap.....

Dirt bike or dune buggy.

 

[peteg59]

The dune/bug cap looks more "custom", but the flatter original cap isn't too bad either. Bit more work to incorporate the buggy cap body wise but you seem fully capable of getting the job done, if that's the direction you decide to go.

Since you're asking, I'd be more partial to the original. Even better if the center vent on the orig. can somehow "go away".

Does your f/i need to be a "closed" system? Not too hard to "plug" venting on either of those caps, if needed...

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

I am an old dirt bike guy, make me prefer the dirt gas cap style.

I need a vented cap. Might even use the hose vent.

The dune buggy cap free vents right there, might be messy. I had it for the stealth tank idea that did not work out how I hoped.

Amazingly difficult to weld 22g metal now that it is so hard to see. What a pain getting old. The combination of bifocals and cheater lenses makes for a very small sweet spot that I can see in. I suppose if I was a welder or had to weld often I could get a prescription just for the application.

 

[stinger608]

One thing about using the original cap; you won't have to do more fabbing on the top of the tank.

 

[LarryA]

tank/eyes

I like that tank....reminds me of the muscled shoulders on PBR bulls! welding with tired old eyes.... for stick...i use the lightest shade you can get...forgot the #.... the extra lite acts like stronger bifocals, at least for me. If u do a bunch of wire welding u need a dark one tho.

 

[DeathBySnuSnu]

Sorry folks.

Looks like photobucket has gone over the edge with us. I was using their back up and sharing app, but now they want $399 a year for a subscription.

Well that ain't gonna happen.

I am working on getting all my pics somewhere local instead of on a web based app.

Then getting a copy to the trike talk server.

And then with a lot of admin help restoring my two main threads.

I do not know how long this may take as I have around 1500 pics dedicated to these two threads.

 

[stinger608]

I can't believe that Photobucket has gone this far! Their site is slow as hell and I just can't believe they expect someone to pay that kind of money!