88 Blazer Trike

[stacebg]

I think with the right linkage setup I can make a 3 inch pedal travel longer than 3 inches if needed

It may make for a touchy brake pedal though

generally the ratio of the pedal movement to the mc movement is around 7or8 to 1 if i remember correctly that said i think u need longer than a 3 in pedal

 

[Fowler]

generally the ratio of the pedal movement to the mc movement is around 7or8 to 1 if i remember correctly that said i think u need longer than a 3 in pedal

I don't know much about break design. I have worked on them, bled them and so on.

I would think the rod travel into the booster would only be a couple inches. I never measured it though.

I cant find a lot on it online but I did find 1 place that said 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 inches for the 7" brake booster/master cylinder setup they were selling.

I will be doing more research

 

[Fowler]

here is the info I was talking about

Still researching though

my exhaust design and the Brake pedal will have to be designed to work together

https://www.onallcylinders.com/2014...figure-pedal-ratio-master-cylinder-bore-size/

if your car needs some help in the stopping power department, or if there’s a need to reduce the pedal effort, you have a few options: A) decrease the master cylinder bore size; B) increase the pedal ratio; or C) increase the wheel cylinder bore size. If the pedal ratio is increased, there will be more travel at the master cylinder piston. If the master cylinder bore size is decreased, the piston has to travel further to move the same amount of fluid. Typically, a master cylinder has approximately 1-1/2-inch to 1-3/4-inch of stroke (travel). What you have to do is coordinate the pedal ratio with the bore size to arrive at approximately half of the stroke (roughly 1-inch) in order to make the brakes feel comfortable and stop the car safely.

 

[Fowler]

I just measured the brake pedal travel on 3 vehicles

Jeep

with booster

running

3 inch travel

HHR

with booster

Not running

2 inch travel

VW trike

No brake booster

2 inch travel

On the Jeep and HHR there would be linkage that may be changing the ratio

The VW trike just has a straight rod from the pedal

 

[LarryA]

Bob, one consideration is, a small remote mounted booster that is activated by a manual master cylinder. lots of them on e-bay they only have the capacity for small cars and I would think a trike.

 

[Fowler]

Bob, one consideration is, a small remote mounted booster that is activated by a manual master cylinder. lots of them on e-bay they only have the capacity for small cars and I would think a trike.

Yep that is what I was thinking about

 

[stacebg]

I don't know much about break design. I have worked on them, bled them and so on.

I would think the rod travel into the booster would only be a couple inches. I never measured it though.

I cant find a lot on it online but I did find 1 place that said 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 inches for the 7" brake booster/master cylinder setup they were selling.

I will be doing more research

because the mc and wheel cylinder bore vary its tough to get it right w/o some trial and error.. if possible leave room to move the pivot pint

 

[Fowler]

I was doing some more measurements

I don't think I will be able to get anymore than 3 inch travel at the pedal.

I should be able to get more travel if needed via linkage

So I have to move on.

I have 1 exhaust pipe tacked together.

I am going to take more pictures of it and pull it apart for I can get exact measurements and angles

Then will start on the other pipes.

I have a friend whos son can tig real well so once I have them all tacked together I will give them to him to weld

I would love to have a tig welder but I don't

 

[Fowler]

started making the pieces

the cutoff wheel on my chop saw worn down to much so I had to stop

 

[Fowler]

have all the pieces made

at the head it was 10.3 degrees

the rest of the angles were 22.5

still need to make the channels the bolts will go in

 

[Fowler]

I have never TIG welded before but I was thinking of buying a CHEAP TIG welder and giving it a try.

I know cheap is not the way to go but I don't want to buy something expensive and not be able to do it.

Of course I would practice on other things before I tackled the headers.

I see some cheap TIG welders for around $200, then I would need a bottle and a cart

So what do you think will one of the cheap $200 units do the job.

Here is one just as an example

https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Wel...t=&hvlocphy=9008889&hvtargid=pla-873470992941

I really do not know what to look for in a TIG welder.

I will have to research it more

 

[vwbug72501]

AS always:



What makes TIG so versatile is the foot pedal that allows for real time control of the arc parameters. If you want really cheap, look at something like this: https://www.amazon.com/YESWELDER-Ga...1&keywords=TIG+adapter&qid=1634147371&sr=8-42

It will provide the TIG arc environment with your existing DC arc machine without high frequency or power control. Still need a bottle and regulator.

 

[LarryA]

am a beginning tig welder also.....lots of stick experience...accetelyne welding yrs ago... so tig is somewhat similar to accetelene welding. had to buy my first auto darkening helmet big help... lo amp tig used grinding shade, more amps, more shade. the unit pictured is not for aluminum which is fine...hence lower cost. should have a foot pedal or variable torch control....need to have small arc to find location and get filler wire into position then add power to get puddle , then back off power at end of weld.

learning to weld header flanges to thin tubes will be a challenge, but is done all the time. I think machine quality is going to be (luck of the draw) I have the ahp alpha tig, which the arc start quit after 1 month. they seemed to have on the ball techs, that helped find the bad board...sent me a replacement board and all well now.

If nothing else tig welding will keep you humble. I have made a few welds that were impressive and a lot that were not...but above all it is fun to do....got sick and tired of cleaning up weld spatter so....good luck which ever way you go!!

 

[Fowler]

my friends son can TIG but he only has a TIG at work.

SO if I can get one cheap enough maybe he can give me some pointers.

He would do it for me if I wanted but I would kind of like to do it myself.

The Ol'Lady said I can get one for Christmas but it will be a cheap one.

When my friend and his son come over this weekend for Beer and Boxing I will get his opinion on a cheap welder.

I would guess if a cheap welder would work good he would have one himself though

we will see

 

[Fowler]

So the Ol'Lady says I can get one if I want.

I am thinking about this one.

https://www.amazon.com/YESWELDER-We...rds=yeswelder+tig-205ds&qid=1634319292&sr=8-5

I will also need to get an Argon bottle, Tungsten and filler rods and a cart

She is OK with me getting it all (she must want something herself)

I watched a couple videos of people using this welder and they did seem to do well.

Some people have reported they received the wrong parts but the manufacture corrected that

I have read that you cant teach yourself how to TIG weld but I am going to try

will research it some more before I decide

 

[Fowler]

good TIG video

 

[Fowler]

here is the welder I am thinking about getting

 

[Fowler]

worked on my square exhaust this last weekend.

they are still going to work but I had to rethink and redesign how I make room for the bolt heads.

I have made 2 different mock ups the 2nd is better than the first. Will make another change and try it again

once I have it the way I want I will modify the actual exhaust pipes I have made already

the change is only 1/16 of an inch on both sides so it gives me 1/8 inch clearance for the bolt heads. I think that will be good.

The exhaust ports on the head are 1 1/4 inch. I still have 1/4 inch (1/8 on each side) clearance

Sorry no pictures this time. My phone is dead. Waiting for a new one to arrive. The company I work for gives me a free phone.

 

[Fowler]

I ordered my welder last night.

it will be a few weeks before it gets here.

once it does I will get a bottle

 

[LarryA]

I have bought the 80 cu,ft. bottle the gas suppliers for some reason call this a "Q" bottle. came filled with 100 percent argon from weld fabulous on ebay but I have to exchange it with Praxair around here in ND this is the largest bottle I can buy....otherwize you have to lease from the gas company ....hopefully you are close to a gas supplier and will have more choices. when your welding a lot, what ever size bottle you have will seem to small LOL

 

[stacebg]

I have bought the 80 cu,ft. bottle the gas suppliers for some reason call this a "Q" bottle. came filled with 100 percent argon from weld fabulous on ebay but I have to exchange it with Praxair around here in ND this is the largest bottle I can buy....otherwize you have to lease from the gas company ....hopefully you are close to a gas supplier and will have more choices. when your welding a lot, what ever size bottle you have will seem to small LOL

generally u r way further ahead to lease a large bottle (t size ) than buy the small one... as the cost per cu ft is so much less

 

[Fowler]

I was planning to get a bottle from the same place I get my others from.

But was wondering how big of a bottle I should get.

Never Tig welded before

 

[LarryA]

I guess it depends on future projects....if one time deal with headers and not much else...I'd think about buying a Q.

Looking at demurrage every month for a big bottle sitting around gets old....I have paid for ox/acy demurrage for 50 yrs...retired now ....small projects only ..Q ox/with propane Q argon that's it for me.. If you get into a lot of tig I would go big and lease. ....the Q bottles get empty fast. probably a long way of saying, there is no right answer....

 

[Fowler]

I guess it depends on future projects....if one time deal with headers and not much else...I'd think about buying a Q.

Looking at demurrage every month for a big bottle sitting around gets old....I have paid for ox/acy demurrage for 50 yrs...retired now ....small projects only ..Q ox/with propane Q argon that's it for me.. If you get into a lot of tig I would go big and lease. ....the Q bottles get empty fast. probably a long way of saying, there is no right answer....

My ox/acy sit around a lot not used. But I plan to do a lot experimenting with the Tig so I will get the big bottle. At lease for now.

I have seen some tig welding art on line. I want to be able to do that one day

my flow meter should be in today. If it comes early enough I will go get a bottle of Argon. I assume the meter has a standard thread but I want to have it before I get a bottle

My welder is delayed though

 

[Fowler]

my welder came in today. I was not expecting it for a few weeks.

I'm modifying the cart my mig is on to have a 2nd level for the Tig

I picked up a 150cf bottle. The next size bigger they had was a 300cf. The bottle was just to big for my cart.

 

[LarryA]

Now have at it! the only thing that seemed strange to me about tig was that I had to make a conscious effort to move ahead, with respect to stick and gas welding.....Maybe the more vertical torch angle with tig.....anyhow, when puddle width is your desired bead width ... time to move forward.....maybe this will not be a problem for you.....good luck!

 

[Fowler]

i still need to get some filler wire and figure out what tungsten rod to use.

Also the flow meter I purchased does not fit my new tank



I did build a 2nd level onto my welding cart for the Tig

 

[stacebg]

i still need to get some filler wire and figure out what tungsten rod to use.

Also the flow meter I purchased does not fit my new tank

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I did build a 2nd level onto my welding cart for the Tig

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that looks like a standard argon regulator... which is what you want for tig,,

we use TIG Welding Tungsten Electrodes 2% Thoriated (Red, WT20) 10-Pack (3/32") https://www.amazon.com/Welding-Tungsten-Electrodes-Thoriated-10-Pack/dp/B013KZNLGG

 

[Fowler]

that looks like a standard argon regulator... which is what you want for tig,,

we use TIG Welding Tungsten Electrodes 2% Thoriated (Red, WT20) 10-Pack (3/32") https://www.amazon.com/Welding-Tungsten-Electrodes-Thoriated-10-Pack/dp/B013KZNLGG

Yeswelder is sending me a new regulator.

I just found this on the link you posted

 

[Fowler]

I ordered some red and some blue