2014 Tri-Glide Thread

[Bigbill]

2014's discontent in the ranks?

Oh that grumbling sound coming from the Harley purists. Some older Harley riders I know are saying they would never have a water cooled engine. Arguments I've heard include, "just more parts to break" or "they are trying to turn it into a Honda". Hell my position is anything to make riding more comfortable and more reliable go for it. What are your thoughts. Not trying to start a argument, just something to talk about.:Shrug:

 

[bikerbillone]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

I think Harley has finally realized the inevitable and made the right mod. Much has been forced by EPA rules. I'm quite sure R&D at Harley has been working on this program for a long time. The purists have plenty air cooled Harleys to ride for a long time so they have no reason for concern.

 

[lboos]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

We don't need no stinkin water cooled Harleys :Wrong:.
whats next....an exh. system that sounds like a 125cc vespa ? :gah:

 

[Bikerbozo]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

I have no problem with water cooling, but I really hate the looks of lower fairings. Those were the 1st thing I removed from my TG.

 

[rhino 2]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

I have no problems with a partial water cooled engine, But if and when they have to go to full water jacketed engine with an big radiator.You'll lose the sole of the engine, It'll sound and feel like my VTX1800 sounded, Not that was anything wrong with that [for some], Just to sedate for me, And boring...... Literally would put me to sleep on long highway stretches.. :vxtyaq:

 

[lboos]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

I have no problem with water cooling, but I really hate the looks of lower fairings. Those were the 1st thing I removed from my TG.

What he said, :gah:

 

[Mr.Wizard]

Re: the 2014 Tri-Glides are water cooled

I borrowed this from another site

2014 Limited Twin Cooled with 108 miles on it with the new compression and cam upgrade.

Click on it for a larger view

 

[Softail Trike]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

Well you know....change is usually always accompanied by opposition. Harley's have evolved quite a bit over the years although it's been pretty slow.

If water cooling turns out to be a real improvement I think it will be accepted in time just like electric start was & padded seats & minimal to no oil leaks etc...

Water cooling is certainly nothing new to most any other engine manufacturer, I mean even a lot of lawnmowers have it.

I believe as long as you can hit the start switch and hear it roar to life & it still makes folks crack their windows at a red light just to hear it.....the Harley reputation will remain secure!!

 

[Ozarkryder]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

I had thought that the MoFoCo would plug the V-Rod engine in the bagger line first, Sold along with a traditional air cooled mill to get folks used to the thought of water cooled more traditional styled Harleys. So instead they went with just cooling the heads and around the exhaust port so the styling won't change much. Not sure if this is a big step forward or another band-aid (although a pretty radical one) to cure the fried-thigh syndrome.

Actually water cooling is old history for Harley. Do a web search for the Harley Davidson Nova Project. Just about had a 2, 4 and even 6 cylinder engines and a line of bikes that were due to come out in 1981. Prototypes and running bikes were made, but Harley decided to put it efforts into upgrading the Shovel into the EVO.

 

[msocko3]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

whats next....an exh. system that sounds like a 125cc vespa ? :gah:

Actually their pretty darn quiet as they are now. I'm amazed at the stock baggers and Triglides I've passed in my travels this summer. I expect to hear some kind of racket as a lot of folks replace the exhaust, instead I hear nothing except the exhaust note of my 06 Ultra which isn't very loud it self. Maybe if I was riding my Goldwing I might hear something from the passing bikes or trikes.

 

[msocko3]

Re: 2014 Twin-Cool System Video

I've ridden with lowers on and lowers off, hot is hot and I can't tell much difference in my personal comfort with no lowers on just more hot air hitting me.

 

[Oldmsocko]

Re: 2014 Twin-Cool System Video

I can stand the heat with the lowers on to protect my lower legs from debris.

 

[Oldmsocko]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

Most Gold Wings do get passed by Harleys.

 

[kkaykk]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

While all change is not progress.... you cannot have progress without change. Some will hate it some will embrace it. In the end it all boils down to what floats YOUR boat!

 

[bikerbillone]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

Actually their pretty darn quiet as they are now. I'm amazed at the stock baggers and Triglides I've passed in my travels this summer. I expect to hear some kind of racket as a lot of folks replace the exhaust, instead I hear nothing except the exhaust note of my 06 Ultra which isn't very loud it self. Maybe if I was riding my Goldwing I might hear something from the passing bikes or trikes.

Yes, buy one off the floor with oem mufflers, they are quiet, it's the aftermarket installs that provide the noise.

 

[iaff84]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

I have not even seen one yet around here.

Has anyone actually rode one yet? Two or Three wheeler.

Dennis

 

[Ga Blue Knight]

Re: 2014 Twin-Cool System Video

I just bought a '13 TriGlide a month ago. Was thinking of waiting for the new models, other than the LED Lights I am really glad I have a '13!

 

[meredog]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

Most Gold Wings do get passed by Harleys.

thats when the wings are stopped for fuel lol

 

[Frang]

Re: 2014 Twin-Cool System Video

I took the lowers off because my big feet were always getting caught on em, especially when I tried to get em off the pegs and onto the brake in a hurry. had nothing to do with heat or road debris.

 

[GARYD]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

Just saw my first 2014. Dealer had a Limited and an Ultra. Hadn't been assembled yet.

Looks OK. Service manager said bikes were delivered yesterday and NONE of his service personnel including him have any idea on service proceedures on the water system or any of the new tech. He was a little peeved. Good luck to the first buyers if they encounter any problems.

Manager agreed with me about also needing the oil cooler. He doesn't think just the wethead is enough.

I like the new stuff a lot, but I'm glad there are enough dislikes to justify NOT buying one. Saves me a lot of $$$$$$$

The tiny(and I mean tiny) 4" screen is - well - [size=8pt]TINY[/size]! How anyone will be able to see it will be a miracle.

6.5" is the only way to go.

The door for your I-Pod sure is flimsy. I can see a heavy duty chrome upgrade coming. :wink:

I think the stock mufflers are a lot better then the old (1990's) ones. They are just right. Still louder then any rice burner.

Rhineharts are way too loud especially when the rider wants to announce "HEY! LOOK AT ME" and keeps blipping the throttle at every stoplight. That gets old pretty fast.

Yes it will come to the sound of a Vespa if the politicos have there way and that may not be too long from now - if we don't police ourselves.

 

[suvcw04]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

Great idea. Now they can leak oil AND coolant.

 

[skuuter]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

Hmmm, no reason for any of it to leak just because it has it.....I've never had an oil leak or coolant leak on any of the many Hondas I've owned and thousands of miles ridden...as long as Harley engineers the Parts really well, the results should be the same.....

Model T purists said the same about the Model A when it came with a water pump.....Anyone so fond of "Air Cooling" might simply go outside and drain Your Car and/or Truck, then go for a ride....Water Cooled Engines last much longer and run much better than Air Cooled Ones.....it's a sign of the times, and has been too long coming.....

 

[Frang]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

I had a coolant leak on a Honda. A bolt head wore a hole in a coolant line. Wasn't a big leak and I was able to get it home by adding water to it every so often.

 

[DakotaTG]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

I haven't seen one personnally, only just what is on the net. I did hear that they (dealers) can't put them out on the floor yet as the official launch is not till Saturday. The national dealers convention just got over with and so some of the dealers are just getting back to their shop. I like what they have done with the TG. The HD site mentions the redesigned batwing fairing and I get the feeling it has been reshaped to some extent. Not sure about the "hood scoop" on it yet. Will have to actually see that in person. The radio upgrade looks great. The beefing up of the front forks/suspension and the brakes has to be possitive. Time will tell on all of this.

2011 Merlot and Black TG

 

[bigbob]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

For me air cooled motors are for lawn mowers

 

[GoSlo]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

I have not even seen one yet around here.<o </o

Has anyone actually rode one yet?<o Two or Three wheeler.</o

Dennis<o </o

A friend of mine picked his Limited up last night, so I got a close up view of all the new, improved pieces and parts. Pretty damned impressive looking bike. He'd only put about 10 miles on it at that point, but said he could tell some differences already. We'll ride together this weekend and I'll let you know what he thinks. No new trikes have been delivered to the dealership yet. So no, I've not ridden one, but I did spend a night in a Holiday Inn Express.

 

[GoSlo]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

Just saw my first 2014. Dealer had a Limited and an Ultra. Hadn't been assembled yet.
Looks OK. Service manager said bikes were delivered yesterday and NONE of his service personnel including him have any idea on service proceedures on the water system or any of the new tech. He was a little peeved. Good luck to the first buyers if they encounter any problems.
Manager agreed with me about also needing the oil cooler. He doesn't think just the wethead is enough.

I like the new stuff a lot, but I'm glad there are enough dislikes to justify NOT buying one. Saves me a lot of $$$$$$$

The tiny(and I mean tiny) 4" screen is - well - [size=8pt]TINY[/size]! How anyone will be able to see it will be a miracle. 6.5" is the only way to go.
The door for your I-Pod sure is flimsy. I can see a heavy duty chrome upgrade coming. :wink:

I think the stock mufflers are a lot better then the old (1990's) ones. They are just right. Still louder then any rice burner.
Rhineharts are way too loud especially when the rider wants to announce "HEY! LOOK AT ME" and keeps blipping the throttle at every stoplight. That gets old pretty fast.
Yes it will come to the sound of a Vespa if the politicos have there way and that may not be too long from now - if we don't police ourselves.

When you say "tiny 4" screen", what are you referring to? The GPS/radio screen is really a nice size and bigger than my Garmin Zumo. Maybe you were referring to the guages? The speedometer and tach seem to be quite a bit smaller than past models.

 

[Big Red]

Re: 2014's discontent in the ranks?

Ok went to my Harley shop last night and looked at the new harley trike
Here is what i seen
It is called a twin cooled motor
Is not cooled with water
It is cooled with Air #1 then it is cooled with oil going to the heads after it hits the Temp. oil is pumped from its own oil tank and cools off the head temp. It is called twin cooled not water looks the same but the lowers have to stay on. and like many thats the frist thing i took off of mine

 

[Big Red]

Twin cooled 2014 tri

Yesterday i went to the harley shop to see the new 2014 trike
Looks nice. As far as being cooled with water that is wrong its is cooled #1 by air as all our trikes are now. Then it is cooled by oil being pumped up to the heads after it gets to a pre set temp.
Has a fan in each lower to cool down the fin,s. no water is used to cool the motor. It is called twin cooled To me it just a add on oil cooler. It hold 1. 2 qt. of oil that has its own tank.The rest of the trike looks great all the new toys us kids like lol. The lowers can not be removed
That the first thing i took off mt 2012 trike needed more leg room
The trike looks great But is about $5 to $6,000 more which means my 2012 is worth more lol.

 

[Lizard]

Re: Twin cooled 2014 tri

You would be the very first person I have heard say that. A Harley tech told me it was "coolant" which suggests water, not oil. The reservoir looks like a water tank not an oil bag.