2014 Clutch Recall

[Lizard]

Harley-Davidson recalls some '14 motorcycles


MILWAUKEE (AP) — Harley-Davidson is voluntarily recalling some 2014 motorcycle models because of a possible safety issue.

The Milwaukee-based company says the recall of about 29,000 bikes includes a "Do Not Ride" notice to owners and a "Do Not Deliver" notice to dealers until the motorcycle is fixed.

Harley-Davidson says the hydraulic clutch system in some of the motorcycles might not disengage the clutch, making it hard to slow or stop.

Owners of affected motorcycles should arrange an inspection with an authorized Harley-Davidson dealer. The dealer will pick up, inspect and make the repairs at no cost.

The recalls affect Touring motorcycles models FLHTCU, FLHTK, FLHTP, FLHX, FLHXS, FLHTKSE and FLHRSE, plus Softail CVOs and Trikes, models FLHTCUTG, FXSBSE and FLSTNSE, built between May 3, 2013, and Oct. 14, 2013.

Read more at Harley-Davidson recalls some '14 motorcycles

 

[Mr.Wizard]

It's on the main page of their site as well.


H-D News | Harley-Davidson USA

There will be one more that will be coming soon. Seems the 14 water cooled bikes that are puking tosses anti-freeze on the back wheel. Not sure what the fix will be but there will be an announcement on that as well. They are facing litigation over this.

The next one after that will be for upgrading the ECM. (I can't say any more about this one) Look for it to fix many issues within their code.

 

[Buckin']

Cool! Free upgrades!

Just kidding but I am not going to let some inconveniences get me down. I'm going to own this Trike for a long time and enjoy lots of fun trips with it. Life happens.

 

[Mr.Wizard]

These are all good things.... PIA maybe but soon all this will be over with soon. Just the new model blues right now.

 

[Geezzer Glide]

Well it looks like the first model year bugs are starting to appear on the 2014's.
Sounds like about 3 so far.
Clutch
Steering head dropping
Puking coolant
Oh and not a safety issue but some people are also having issues with the radio, Bluetooth, GPS, touch screen systems. (lack for a better word, the new radio communications system).
I hate to see things like this happen and was hopping it wouldn't with the new 14's. But it's started. Wonder what else will surface. And they have only been out 2 months.
Well lets just hope these and any other problems will be resolved quickly.
Dan

 

[Buckin']

Evidently there are two recalls for clutch related issues, the other is for clutch release plates.

Yeah, it sucks to deal with these recalls but in the bigger picture, I know my Trike will be the better for it in the long run.
I've been in the automobile business for a long time so I'm used to this kind of thing.

 

[Geezzer Glide]

Unfortunately it seams like it really doesn't matter what one drives there seams there are recalls on most vehicles. I can't remember what it was right now but there was 1 recall on my 11.
Back in April we received a recall on my wifes 10 Malibu. It said the shifter had to be repaired or it could break. We took it in and they repaired the shifter. 2 months later the shifter broke.
We did think that was funny. Drove it for 3 years with no troubles. Took it in for the recall to have the shifter repaired. They repaired the shifter. 2 months later the shifter broke.
Well I guess the good side of the HD recalls is that they seam to be addressing the issues at this point.
Dan

 

[Moe55]

Called dealer today parts of recall will not be shipped from the factory until 10/21/2013. They said will send truck out to pick up the trike as soon as the parts arrive. These things are a PITA but it is part of life. Sure it is a vendor problem recall starts May 2013 there were no 14's delivered then. Over all this is the best Harley I have ever owned.

 

[GARYD]

Boy! am I glad I decided to wait until April to buy one.
Thanks guys for finding the bugs for us late bloomers so that we can buy a trouble free bike come spring. :gah: pepper ThumbUp :Trike1: :laugh:

So much for "Years In Development" crap. Were they all stoned all those years?
I know the paint color department was stoned. :gah:

 

[GARYD]

oooppps

 

[Bikerbozo]

Harley could get rid of most of their bugs if only they did the obvious....Give me a test model before the release. I guarantee I will find any problems.

 

[Mr.Wizard]

What's funny is... HD has a group of testers. They pull a bike off the line and give it a going over, ride it and eyeball it. At the end of the day they will put stickies all over each bike and put them in the cafeteria for all to see.

Old rumor was if your bike came from HD with about 50 miles on it, buy it. It went through the factory testers before shipping.

 

[Will Parish]

My dealer called this morning to inform me of the recall. They have not seen the actual service bulletin yet, but should get it and repair kits next week. He said they had about 12-14 bikes they had sold that had the recall. They haven't seen any bikes that actually had a clutch failure. They will pick up my trike as soon as they have the parts.

 

[Mr.Wizard]

Just heard of one more...

All TG's are to have the new assist and slip clutch assembly for 2014. This was introduced to the 2013 CVO Touring bikes. Not talking about the hydraulic clutch lever system on the handlebars, this is different.

Seems there was a mistake at the factory where some of the 2014 trikes have the older style clutch installed instead of the assist and slip assembly. The old style has 6 10mm bolts holding a retainer ring over the spring diaphragm just like all the Big Twin bikes from 1998.

The new assist and slip assembly has 3 bolts holding a plate which compresses 3 compression springs. (see pictures)

If you remove your derby cover you will see the different jump right out at you. During your Stop, Don't Ride recall your dealer will inspect for this and change your clutch assembly.

Here is what the normal spring retainer looks like under the derby cover.

This is what the assist and slip looks like. (Don't have a better picture)

 

[Moe55]

Just checked mine and have the correct clutch. If this works here is what it looks like. What is the torque for the derby cover?

 

[Mr.Wizard]

Just checked mine and have the correct clutch. If this works here is what it looks like. What is the torque for the derby cover?

Thanks for taking that pic. It worked just fine.

Clutch inspection cover screws 84-108 in-lbs (5-7 lbs)

Be sure to use anti-seize on the threads. If you don't have any take a bar of soap and scrape the threads on the bar. There needs to be a non-oxidizing material on the screws before you reinstall them.

 

[Buckin']

Just got back from dropping my TriGlide off at the selling dealer. I figured I would go ahead and get the 1K (has about 600 miles) out of the way and get a jump on all those that are going to have their bikes picked up for the recall.

Found out that the build date was 9/4 so I missed the fork bracket issue that was for build dates up to 9/2. The service manager checked that right away.

They didn't know as much about this recall as what Mr.Wizard has been able to inform us of here. Thank you for that Mr.Wizard! Service manager stated that they are supposed to receive parts etc. (the week of) 10/21. So my garage will look a little empty for a week or so. Just wondering how long before the next "Do Not Ride" recall will be? (Coolant pukes)

 

[jcoud]

Just left my dealer. My trike is on the truck and should get here (there) before the end of the day today. I assume that they will take care of any and all recalls before they send me on my way with my new TG tomorrow. I would hate to ride home tomorrow and then have them call me to bring it back to fix it.

 

[dare8601]

Received the same call today..good then they can work on the radio and the rear brake noise....

 

[Jim Gee]

Drove my 2014 trike down to the dealer this morning to check into scheduling my 1,000 mile service and they told me about the recall sent out last night. Said I couldn't drive it home and would have to leave it.:gah::gah: Of course it had to be a sunny day and in the 70's. Not to many of those left in the future for us here in New England!! Tried to have them give me a loaner, but they said no way as there were too many 2014's out there. You could here the service advisors in the backround calling customers asking when they could pick up their bikes. Like others have said, parts won't be in until next week.... At least they were nice enough to give me a ride back home, about 30 miles one way!!

 

[Mr.Wizard]

Really don't want to start flaming HD but you guys should know the facts so here goes.

The parts are being "shipped" to the dealers the week of Oct 21, not received.

Most all dealers do not receive their orders until Thursday of each week.

The bikes in stock at each dealer will be fixed first. HD will not allow dealers to be left without bikes to sell.

The bikes owned and brought in will be repaired first come, first serve after the floor models.

Due to the volume of bikes being effected (I heard up to 60,000) the first shipment of repair parts will be limited.

I also hear the hydraulic clutch issue is based in the reservoir at the clutch lever. The issue will mostly effect two wheel bikes. When on the jiffy stand the fluid port falls below the fill line. When you pull in the clutch lever while on the stand air will be introduced into the hydraulic lines. When this happens the clutch may not disengage. I've also heard this is a overheating issue on the hydraulic line...doubt that is the problem. Have heard a few variations of this but the air issue makes sense and was repeated to me a few times by different sources.

There is a separate issue with the radios. These issues cause the communications center, blue tooth, CD and even the navigation system to lock up the radio. The issue is in the ECM and BUS module code. Therefore a new flash to the ECM will need to be installed. I have not heard if the code is ready at this time.

There are two colors of radiator caps. Blue and Grey. Seems, and I don't know which color goes where, the wrong color was shipped to the Water Cooled plant. (York). The Water Cooled Touring bikes are rated at 20# of pressure. The VRod is rated at 12- 15 #. Seems some of the Water Cooled Touring bikes had VRod caps installed by mistake. The VRod is made at the Milwaukee Plant.

All this information I have here is subjective to the people I get this info from. I don't get it from one person. Several contact me to discuss and this is an accumulation of what I perceive the facts to be. Sometimes you must read between the lines but when all say the same... I think you have a fact.

The rest is posted above... A&S clutch basket (Assist and Slip)

 

[Mr.Wizard]

Oh, almost forgot.

NHTSA has had many complaints on the Water Cooled bikes. Seems the overflow line goes under the frame and stops at the transmission. When the bike overflows, anti-freeze is poured on the bike's back tire causing an unsafe condition to the rider.

NHTSA has promised litigation but since Washington is closed so it may take a while for them to crank this up.

 

[Buckin']

Just left my dealer. My trike is on the truck and should get here (there) before the end of the day today. I assume that they will take care of any and all recalls before they send me on my way with my new TG tomorrow. I would hate to ride home tomorrow and then have them call me to bring it back to fix it.

Sorry but my guess is you will not be riding it home tomorrow. This is a DO NOT RIDE, DO NOT DELIVER recall. Unless of course your bike was built since 10/14 which I highly doubt. You'll be waiting with the rest of us.

 

[Buckin']

Really don't want to start flaming HD but you guys should know the facts so here goes.

The parts are being "shipped" to the dealers the week of Oct 21, not received.

Most all dealers do not receive their orders until Thursday of each week.

The bikes in stock at each dealer will be fixed first. HD will not allow dealers to be left without bikes to sell.

The bikes owned and brought in will be repaired first come, first serve after the floor models.

Due to the volume of bikes being effected (I heard up to 60,000) the first shipment of repair parts will be limited.

I also hear the hydraulic clutch issue is based in the reservoir at the clutch lever. The issue will mostly effect two wheel bikes. When on the jiffy stand the fluid port falls below the fill line. When you pull in the clutch lever while on the stand air will be introduced into the hydraulic lines. When this happens the clutch may not disengage. I've also heard this is a overheating issue on the hydraulic line...doubt that is the problem. Have heard a few variations of this but the air issue makes sense and was repeated to me a few times by different sources.

There is a separate issue with the radios. These issues cause the communications center, blue tooth, CD and even the navigation system to lock up the radio. The issue is in the ECM and BUS module code. Therefore a new flash to the ECM will need to be installed. I have not heard if the code is ready at this time.

There are two colors of radiator caps. Blue and Grey. Seems, and I don't know which color goes where, the wrong color was shipped to the Water Cooled plant. (York). The Water Cooled Touring bikes are rated at 20# of pressure. The VRod is rated at 12- 15 #. Seems some of the Water Cooled Touring bikes had VRod caps installed by mistake. The VRod is made at the Milwaukee Plant.

All this information I have here is subjective to the people I get this info from. I don't get it from one person. Several contact me to discuss and this is an accumulation of what I perceive the facts to be. Sometimes you must read between the lines but when all say the same... I think you have a fact.

The rest is posted above... A&S clutch basket (Assist and Slip)

Thanks again! Makes me glad I was proactive and got mine in today. Looks like a week might be wishful thinking...

 

[Lakeman]

I hate this crap happening to the MOCO.

 

[jcoud]

Stopped by the dealer this afternoon and they called the delivery company who said it would be there late today. The salesman told me it would be ready to go tomorrow. That was at 4:30 today... I had not seen anything about the recalls at that time. I am a little surprised the dealership didn't say something this afternoon about it. Not sure how to interpret the no discussion about the recall. Did they not know or not want to talk about it yet?

 

[joepolo]

Ok a little late posting but just gotta say, owned my trike 3 weeks didn't even make a payment now I can't ride, first Harley, sure hope it's going to change, or i'll be back with the Kawi.

 

[Mr.Wizard]

HD will fix the issues Joe... they will make all the bikes right. Just takes a little time, easily given to make sure you are safe and sound.

 

[boots]

Just checked mine and have the correct clutch. If this works here is what it looks like. What is the torque for the derby cover?

Just checked mine and it has the Three bolt like the one above.ThumbUp

 

[Buckin']

Just checked mine and it has the Three bolt like the one above.ThumbUp

What's your build date boots?