Harley & "woke"

[ISP-FL]

Without getting into the age old "Ford vs. Chevy" discussion, I did just read where Ford has rolled back most of their WOKE DEI policies.

I had never been aware they were leaning in that direction. Makes me wonder if all the publicity Harley was getting worried them a little so they wanted to get out ahead of it.

Well, no matter what side of these issues you fall on, a lot of it will change in 2025 I'm sure.

 

[Oldster]

I don't need a company or a celebrity telling me how I should feel about anything. If they both will just do their job and keep their opinions to themselves, we will get along fine! Somehow this got turned around, they should be worried about what we think, not the other way around. If we get really put out with any of them and stop buying, they are out of business!! They aren't in control, we are!!!!!!!!!!

 

[trike lady]

I vote with my wallet when it come to buying a product and the paid "influencers" need to find a real job.

 

[Sheriff42]

Something interesting happened in my area recently involving the owner of our local Harley dealership. It may or may not be related to Harley going WOKE, but it makes me suspicious.

Several years ago Bert's Black Widow Harley (Port Charlotte) began a huge expansion. They built an outdoor covered structure with a large stage next to a new "Twisted Fork" restaurant. They have a continuous supply of live music plus the restaurant is one of the best around. After all of that was completed, he revamped the dealership buildings. He turned an average dealership into probably the nicest Harley dealership in Florida IMHO.

The owner of Bert's just announced the opening of a new dealership. They are selling Indian and Triumph motorcycles only!

Bert’s and Twisted Fork is probably my favorite place to visit on the weekends! Great food, bands ,beer and Harley Davidson motorcycles!

Bert is a great businessman. My guess is his research indicated an opportunity in Fort Myers. They already have a Harley dealer there so he opted to another brand. It caused me to actually do some research on Triumphs and they look cool! Not that I would buy anything but a Harley.

My guess is it’s just business.

 

[ISP-FL]

I totally agree that he is a smart businessman

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

Bert’s and Twisted Fork is probably my favorite place to visit on the weekends! Great food, bands ,beer and Harley Davidson motorcycles!

Bert is a great businessman. My guess is his research indicated an opportunity in Fort Myers. They already have a Harley dealer there so he opted to another brand. It caused me to actually do some research on Triumphs and they look cool! Not that I would buy anything but a Harley.

My guess is it’s just business.

I have been to Berts a couple times, we have friends that own a home in Cape Coral. He has two trikes down there so we always something to ride, you folks hold on to your hats and stay safe.

 

[Sheriff42]

I have been to Berts a couple times, we have friends that own a home in Cape Coral. He has two trikes down there so we always something to ride, you folks hold on to your hats and stay safe.

Thanks Knees!

A lot of palm fronds lying in the yard, but all well otherwise! See you at Bert’s sometime!

 

[Trail boss]

So I read that the Harley tent at Sturgis this year wasn't very busy and some were blaming it on the company's new DEI policies. Apparently, they interviewed Vinny, the owner of Pappy's Vintage Cycles in Sturgis. He claimed that a lot of Harley owners are switching over to Indian and he thinks Harley is committing "branding suicide" by their corporate "woke" policies.

Personally, my 2019 TG is my last motorcycle I will ever own. Anything the company does or doesn't do will not affect me one way or the other. As long as I can still get any OEM parts I need my bike will still be on the road.

I'm not saying Harley couldn't get too radical one way or the other to really make me mad. Several years ago when some NFL players thought it was a good idea to start kneeling for the National Anthem I stopped watching my Chicago Bears for almost 5 years. I didn't serve my country from age 17 to 57 so a bunch of non-patriots could disrespect it on national TV. I still only watch an NFL game occasionally to this day.

I'm just an old retired guy. I get up every morning and put on a Harley tee shirt. On the rare occasion that I have to be slightly more presentable I will wear something else, but probably 350 days a year I wear Harley branded shirts. But if Harley ever does anything that I would consider disrespectful to the U.S.A., or our constitution, I will have no problem throwing each and every tee shirt in the trash.

I think Bud Lite learned a very hard and expensive lesson about doing things their fan base doesn’t approve of. When the idiots of the NFL were costing themselves millions of dollars in lost revenue because of Colin Kapernick’s attempt to reinvent himself, members of the MLB, NBA & NHL were watching the damage it did and they didn’t bight. You can live whatever lifestyle you want as long as it’s legal and doesn’t hurt others, but when you start cramming it down my throat, I’m spending my money somewhere else.

 

[Papa Zook]

Oh but look at how times are suddenly changing...

 

[ROAD DOG]

Anybody see Harley's 4th 1/4 report ? I did not know Harley filed chapter 11 in 2020 ? I THINK THERES A FIRE SALE COMMING SOON ? China ? India ?