Didn't Bite On CVO Trike

[ISP-FL]

While waiting for my traction control recall to get done I was wondering around Ft Myers dealership (Rock Star Harley). Of course a new white CVO Trike immediately caught my attention. Soon after the CVO caught my attention, I caught the attention of a salesman of course.

I tried to make it clear from the start of our conversation that I would NEVER invest over $50,000 in a motorcycle. He kept throwing out little hints....."we have had this one for three weeks"....."it is getting close to the end of the month"....."I could get the paperwork done and get you on the road in 30 minutes"......you get the idea.

Finally I told him my Tennessee buddy had a deal to trade his 2017 Trike on a white CVO for $24,000 difference out the door. This didn't make him flinch. He insisted they would make me an offer I would trade at.

I came really close to suggesting a trade of my 2019 Trike and $10,000 out the door, which I was pretty sure he wouldn't take. But then I started to worry that he might come close to that figure so I cut off the conversation before it was too late.

Next time I have to take my TG in for something I'm waiting outside!

 

[Colleydog]

I’m sure there are people out there who would pay over 50,000 for a cvo trike but I wouldn’t, I think 36,000 is too much for a non cvo, prices for just about anything are way out of control.

 

[groutman]

I've still not seen one in person. I took my trike into the shop Friday for the recall and i had them fix the lean it has. also they are supposed to fix my trunk door the handle seems to be digging in on the corners and blistering the paint.

 

[MikeyTX]

Way too much $$. For $59k I can buy a new Corvette and have a roof over my head when it rains or heat when it gets cold. A/c when it's 100* + in the shade.

 

[Colleydog]

Great looking trike groutman, love the color, and so true Mikey, my first house didn’t cost as much as a cvo trike.

 

[MikeyTX]

I look for the demise of the Mo-Co within the next ten yrs. They simply cannot seem to connect with the times. The younger ones simply aren't into the so called lifestyle. The Mo-Co needs to go back to basics and leave the clothing, the bling, etc to the aftermarket. This trying to be everything for everyone just isn't working imho.

 

[Colleydog]

I agree Mikey, some of the new models they are coming out with just leave me shaking my head

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

To those who have purchased a CVO trike congrats and hope you get thousands of miles of fun.But for me its a no go,for 20-25 k difference for my 17 i can do a ton of upgrades that will make my 17 run circles around the 117 plus a ton of bling.

 

[ultrafxr]

I’m sure there are people out there who would pay over 50,000 for a cvo trike but I wouldn’t, I think 36,000 is too much for a non cvo, prices for just about anything are way out of control.

Ain't it the truth. Insane what we have to pay to play. :laugh:

 

[trikermutha]

In the next tens years or so , more electric vehicles will be out on the road. Whats next the electric Trike CVO :xzqxz:

Imagine the cost for that?

 

[rhino 2]

It has nothing to do with price......Money is cheap now, They will eventually sell everyone they make......What they are losing is people including me [After owning 4 new Harleys] who are still willing to put up with the same problems Harley has with making the buyer do the free Research and Development......And then still deny that there is a problem..

 

[rae mendonca]

cvo

It has nothing to do with price......Money is cheap now, They will eventually sell everyone they make......What they are losing is people including me [After owning 4 new Harleys] who are still willing to put up with the same problems Harley has with making the buyer do the free Research and Development......And then still deny that there is a problem..

So true. I also gave up my Ultra, then my street glide and finally my freewheeler. Too much new tecknowledgy with potential unfixable problems. Went to a 2005 sportster with carb for tooling around on short (under 500 miles ) Also got a 2015 sportster 883 with a 1200 conversion and added a Frankenstein trike kit to it for long distance travel ( the 2015 has fuel injection but if it causes trouble it can be easily changed to carb). Now I (HOPE) I have couple of bikes I can trust will give me years of service without too much trouble. Also If and when the motor goes south I can get Hammer Performance to rebuild them at a very reasonable cost. ( I personally talked to Dan and he quoted me a price that was more than reasonable)

 

[Trampas]

I know my dealer said when they first announce a CVO trike they sold both of them right off the bat. Dealer said each dealer only gets 2 CVO's per dealer, not sure if this is right or not, just what he said. I still haven't seen one yet in person, but it has been 2 weeks since I have been at the dealer, the 2 they sold one was taking it right away and the other according the person that bought it said they can display it on showroom floor until spring as long as it is roped off and no one can get close to it.

As far as the regular 2020's haven't seen those yet either. They still had a few 2019's left if I remember right

All for now Trampas

P.S. Might consider a CVO in later years if they come down in price and I'm not looking for harley to do that so I guess I won't be getting one

 

[DK Custom Products]

While waiting for my traction control recall to get done I was wondering around Ft Myers dealership (Rock Star Harley). Of course a new white CVO Trike immediately caught my attention. Soon after the CVO caught my attention, I caught the attention of a salesman of course.

I tried to make it clear from the start of our conversation that I would NEVER invest over $50,000 in a motorcycle. He kept throwing out little hints....."we have had this one for three weeks"....."it is getting close to the end of the month"....."I could get the paperwork done and get you on the road in 30 minutes"......you get the idea.

Finally I told him my Tennessee buddy had a deal to trade his 2017 Trike on a white CVO for $24,000 difference out the door. This didn't make him flinch. He insisted they would make me an offer I would trade at.

I came really close to suggesting a trade of my 2019 Trike and $10,000 out the door, which I was pretty sure he wouldn't take. But then I started to worry that he might come close to that figure so I cut off the conversation before it was too late.

Next time I have to take my TG in for something I'm waiting outside!

:laugh: Glad you escaped with your bank account intact.

Rather than a CVO, I would rather buy a basic unit and mod it to my needs & desires.

I look for the demise of the Mo-Co within the next ten yrs. They simply cannot seem to connect with the times. The younger ones simply aren't into the so called lifestyle. The Mo-Co needs to go back to basics and leave the clothing, the bling, etc to the aftermarket. This trying to be everything for everyone just isn't working imho.

Yep, no doubt they are in trouble...and they know it. Lots of new models coming out to appeal to their "non-base" as they try and build a new base.

Regarding clothing and bling...I know of several dealership (which are in business to make $) that make far more profit off their clothing than they do from bike or part sales.

Kevin

 

[56Elwood]

I look for the demise of the Mo-Co within the next ten yrs. They simply cannot seem to connect with the times. The younger ones simply aren't into the so called lifestyle. The Mo-Co needs to go back to basics and leave the clothing, the bling, etc to the aftermarket. This trying to be everything for everyone just isn't working imho.

If you'll indulge a grumpy old man here. (still a couple years away from retirement so I get to see day to day stuff at work). Younger generation doesn't want to ride the way we did when we were younger. Kids today don't even want to drive cars, let alone bikes because if they're driving, they can't be texting their friends, on social media or playing video games on their phone. It is ALL ABOUT THE PHONE with the younger generation. The kids nowadays would rather take an Uber so they can be on their phone, they don't want to be mechanics because they can't be on their phone and if they could avoid work altogether so they could be on their phone, they would. I think that's why the political candidates that want to give away everything for free appeal to kids, so they can stay on their phones. The old school of going from a mini bike to a dirt bike to a street bike to maybe a touring bike is long gone and I think eventually the motorcycle lifestyle will be a sad memory. I think Harley is leading the decline and the other mfg's will follow.

 

[Colleydog]

Unfortunately, I think you are completely right Elwood, a lot of things I believe will be completely different, and the young uns not riding motorcycles will be one the the small ones. The country as we know it will soon cease to exist. It’s a sad state of affairs we are in.

 

[kingfish108]

At the beginning of the 2019 riding season, I set aside the money to trade my '17 TG for a '20. Then I got to thinking of the items I have on my trike that have been added. Also, thinking that as I get older I will probably not be riding as much. It now has 45k+ miles on it and should do me just fine for a number of years. I did take half of the money I set aside and upgraded my '19 car that I had for 10 months for a '20 suv. The other half of the money I am going to use for trike things and maintenance. Some attitudes helped with this decision.

 

[rhino 2]

Unfortunately, I think you are completely right Elwood, a lot of things I believe will be completely different, and the young uns not riding motorcycles will be one the the small ones. The country as we know it will soon cease to exist. It’s a sad state of affairs we are in.

The country will still be here.....Motorcycles are just toys..Dangerous ones at that..... ;.The country will be run by people who don't want to get Boo-Boo's.....

Let's face it if Motorcycles were just invented yesterday they would be outlawed tomorrow.....Like cap guns and M-80's.....Next thing you'll know those dangerous plastic straw's will be next....

 

[ISP-FL]

Had an interesting conversation with another buddy who lives up in Alabama and rides a 2017 Trike. He said he remembers reading an article in some motorcycle mag that said when the new CVO Trikes hit the dealerships that the MSRP would be less than $49,000.

If that is the case then do the dealers have $35,000 or less invested in them? Every dealership that I have heard of who has a Trike CVO in their showroom is asking between $54,000 and $58,000 before fees and taxes.

 

[Texan]

In the next tens years or so , more electric vehicles will be out on the road. Whats next the electric Trike CVO :xzqxz: Imagine the cost for that?

The chrome plated extensiion cord alone would cost you $50,000.00.

8~\o

 

[Fearless]

If you'll indulge a grumpy old man here. (still a couple years away from retirement so I get to see day to day stuff at work). Younger generation doesn't want to ride the way we did when we were younger. Kids today don't even want to drive cars, let alone bikes because if they're driving, they can't be texting their friends, on social media or playing video games on their phone. It is ALL ABOUT THE PHONE with the younger generation. The kids nowadays would rather take an Uber so they can be on their phone, they don't want to be mechanics because they can't be on their phone and if they could avoid work altogether so they could be on their phone, they would. I think that's why the political candidates that want to give away everything for free appeal to kids, so they can stay on their phones. The old school of going from a mini bike to a dirt bike to a street bike to maybe a touring bike is long gone and I think eventually the motorcycle lifestyle will be a sad memory. I think Harley is leading the decline and the other mfg's will follow.

I pray you are wrong about the youth today it goes much deeper than the phone they are led into a life style much different than what we grew up with and who is at fault if there is any? Fred

 

[MikeyTX]

:laugh: Glad you escaped with your bank account intact.

Rather than a CVO, I would rather buy a basic unit and mod it to my needs & desires.

Yep, no doubt they are in trouble...and they know it. Lots of new models coming out to appeal to their "non-base" as they try and build a new base.

Regarding clothing and bling...I know of several dealership (which are in business to make $) that make far more profit off their clothing than they do from bike or part sales.

Kevin

And therein lies the problem imho. I don't need the Mo-CO. In retrospect, I should have bought the non tour pack Goldwing. Triked it and called it a day.

 

[rhino 2]

And therein lies the problem imho. I don't need the Mo-CO. In retrospect, I should have bought the non tour pack Goldwing. Triked it and called it a day.

My Old Man would always say to me, When ever i said i should have done this and not that..

Son ' He always called me Son..........

;Son!' If the Dog didn't stop to take a pee he would have caught the cat..........

 

[David792]

To those who have purchased a CVO trike congrats and hope you get thousands of miles of fun.But for me its a no go,for 20-25 k difference for my 17 i can do a ton of upgrades that will make my 17 run circles around the 117 plus a ton of bling.

I agree 101%. I've looked at a lot of the CVO bikes. They have ALL the extras for sure. But some of that stuff I wouldn't want. It would be a shame to pay for the CVO model then take stuff off to customize it. To each his own for sure, but if I was into customizing I'd get the cheapest one I could get then upgrade it the way I want it. Mine is an '18 in vivid black. I'm slowly upgrading it to what I want it to be and It isn't taking much. And when did they introduce a white CVO trike? It's not on the web page, but someone posted a video of one. Is that a Canadian model?

 

[Ray55]

The last time I was at my dealer(a couple weeks ago), they had a white CVO trike on the showroom floor. Just under $52K ($51,999). Something like a $7,000 dealer markup.

 

[Colleydog]

They have a white one at my local dealer, have not been in to look, not sure if I can even afford to look, thought my 2018 was way too much, can’t imagine paying over 50,000.

 

[ISP-FL]

I agree 101%. I've looked at a lot of the CVO bikes. They have ALL the extras for sure. But some of that stuff I wouldn't want. It would be a shame to pay for the CVO model then take stuff off to customize it. To each his own for sure, but if I was into customizing I'd get the cheapest one I could get then upgrade it the way I want it. Mine is an '18 in vivid black. I'm slowly upgrading it to what I want it to be and It isn't taking much. And when did they introduce a white CVO trike? It's not on the web page, but someone posted a video of one. Is that a Canadian model?

I think they are producing a restricted number of CVO trikes this year, some are white with gray/black trim and some are black with white/gray trim. These are the only two colors for CVO trikes that I know of for 2020 being made.

I agree about paying a ton of money for all those extras. I wouldn't mind seeing the CVO split into two models for the trike. Maybe a CVO trike that just has the 117 motor without all the options, then a CVO Unlimited model that has the 117 plus all the stuff.

 

[Trampas]

Well I was at the dealer yesterday, as I said in my other post I hadn't seen a 2020 trike or a CVO, can't say that now, they had a CVO in white all roped off because that is what the owner of CVO said he wanted to display until spring, not bad looking, for me there is quite a bit of things I would never put on my trike, so me I would if I was interested I would buy a regular 2020 and then put what I wanted on it and be way cheaper and the salesman with me agreed, he sure was pushy trying to me into the 2020 and I told him I had a 2018, he said trade it in even on a 2019, I looked at him and told I would lose my a-- if I traded, you would not give me what it is worth and I know it and you know it, he was still pushing, I finally left, sales must be down and I believe they are. He tried to give me his card and I refused, this dealer is pretty good but maybe the owners have said do what you have to get a sale, don't know for sure but it getting toward the end of year.

I'm happy so far with my 2018 and I have it decked the way I want, still have a few things to put on sitting in the garage that will get put on this spring, to cold right now and it is up on the jack and covered until spring.

All for now Trampas

 

[ISP-FL]

sales must be down and I believe they are. He tried to give me his card and I refused, this dealer is pretty good but maybe the owners have said do what you have to get a sale, don't know for sure but it getting toward the end of year.

All for now Trampas

I suspect sales could be down for Harley nationwide this year. The kid-salesman that I had the conversation with wasn't as pushy as it sounds like your guy was, but he certainly wanted to fire off some trade numbers.

What he did bring up that always makes me a little pissed is their standard question "how much do you still owe on your XXX bike". I am sure they have them trained to do this so that when they give you that trade number they can start by saying "your payment will only go up $75 a month". I usually tell them the bike is paid off (no matter if it actually is or not) just to get them off the whole payment discussion. It will slow-their-roll a little.