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Sold my CVO... darn thing was just too fast for my old blood. Got a 12 TG.

My friends are back to calling me Pops riding Tubby.... hummmm, guess they forgot..... well OK, that's all in fun, them on their hopped up Touring bikes and ego to match, right?

They wanted me to hit the mountain roads this morning but they still needed someone to lead them to a spot that only I seem to remember how to get there.

8 two wheel bikes line up behind me. Old Tubby and I just meander along on the back roads. Beautiful day, temps were perfect for riding.

Well..... we got into about 2 miles of corning around the mountains.

I looked back after about a mile and there wasn't anyone in sight. I don't know what the problem was. I was only doing 50 in 5th. Never had to down shift or take a corner hard. Went into a straight road and there they were about a 1/2 mile behind me. Good... maybe someone had a problem but I counted 8 head lights and let them catch up.

We went into more curves, same thing happened. This repeated itself a few times until I finally just had to stop (nature call). Boy... did I get my head handed to me.

"What's with flying through all the corners!! You headed to a fire or something??" :AGGHH:

Now mind you that I've ridden with these guys for a long time but one of the riders was on a Ninja. SHE, yes, she heard the ranting and jumped in. What are you guys talking about I had to hit the brakes to keep from smashing into you guys several times. I'm going to ride behind the old guy on Tubby. You guys can follow me for a change... all the while turning to me giving the ol' high 5.

I swear I never broke a sweat on the TG. Didn't push any corners hard just drove at the limit or maybe +5.

I remember now why I loved my old trike so much.

Pops... HA. Now who is calling who Pops. :wave4:

Very glad to be back on 3.
 
Great story. You described it so well it was as if I was standing there watching the entire exchange, lol!!! :laugh: ThumbUp
 
When our group rides, my 60 year old wife with Neuropathy (from Chemo) in her hands and feet usually leads. She had to learn to slow down a bit so the Road Sofas could keep up. When she was on her DeLux or Nightrain it wasn't a problem
 
Well,, Wiz is verifying what I have been spoutin' on here for some time. My 2 wheeled bagger buds just cannot stay up with me in the curves, even when I am not pushin' it. They don't make jokes about a goofy Trike any more. They also roll eyes and shake heads a lot when my TG gets all the attention from people at stops we make.

Trikes Rule.
 
Trent said:
Well,, Wiz is verifying what I have been spoutin' on here for some time. My 2 wheeled bagger buds just cannot stay up with me in the curves, even when I am not pushin' it. They don't make jokes about a goofy Trike any more. They also roll eyes and shake heads a lot when my TG gets all the attention from people at stops we make.

Trikes Rule.
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+1 No way I could run my 2 wheel 06 Ultra through the corners like a trike can, I'd be grinding and scraping stuff all the way through. Even my 2012 Wing won't run through the corners at speeds a trike can do them at, and it will lay way over compared to a HD touring bike.
 
I ran into the same scenario a few months ago on the BRP - bagger behind me tried to keep up with me - he was only able to on the straights, but he was 2 up though and maybe a new rider - I don't know.
My fellow HOG members that ride behind me always marvel at how my trike handles in the turns. They tell me it looks like I'm making 90* turns (and feels like it to me). :D
They do say it looks like I'm having a ball riding the trike - and they sure aren't wrong there. I think this is the most fun you can have with your clothes on. LOL

Now we're going to get hell from all the nay sayers - and I've read some comments = "No way a trike can out run me" - "They're (trike riders) out of their minds if they think they can ride faster in the curves then me" etc. etc.

Might not get too many of those comments on this forum, but try the other forums. :D ThumbUp :Coffee:
 
No joke... post this on HDF and have the fire extinguisher on stand by.

:D:D

I'll tell you guys something else... my 07 MT UC conversion fit on my trike lift pretty well. I had about an inch of overhang on one tire but the TG overhands more than I remember. I don't remember the TG having a wider wheelbase than conversions but a converted UC will turn in a tighter radius.

During some testing I've had a TG up on one wheel from a dead stop turning right. My conversion would only spin the tire and go.

Comments? Is the TG wheelbase wider than a Motor Trike?
 
HAHAHA.....FUNNY STORY...:laugh::laugh::laugh:.....Wish I coulda' been Trikin' with Ya'....I coulda' helped Ya' rub it in...or we coulda' just triked off and got something to eat.....pepper ;)
 
Mr.Wizard said:
No joke... post this on HDF and have the fire extinguisher on stand by.

:D:D

I'll tell you guys something else... my 07 MT UC conversion fit on my trike lift pretty well. I had about an inch of overhang on one tire but the TG overhands more than I remember. I don't remember the TG having a wider wheelbase than conversions but a converted UC will turn in a tighter radius.

During some testing I've had a TG up on one wheel from a dead stop turning right. My conversion would only spin the tire and go.

Comments? Is the TG wheelbase wider than a Motor Trike?
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I swear that Dennis' lift kit, after I installed it, and the rear tire on the front increased the cornering capabilities even more. So if they start getting closer you know what to add to the trike.

:) :) :)
 
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I think everyone that converts to a trike has the same questions that you do. Will it turn over, will it slide, will the front tire push through the turn and not allow me to stay on the road.

The answer to all that is YES. It will if you ride outside the limits of the trike for the road conditions... just like every other vehicle on the road today.

You will find that a trike will surprise you just how well it will handle and zip around and through a curve in rough conditions. Before long you will loose the "Pucker" factor and it will free up your ride. There are not too many baggers that can out run a good trike in the twisties and there are several threads about this. (mostly heated discussions) I ride both.

I love telling this story... Two metrics heading south on the Dragon and a Trike just behind them. The metrics zip though the twisties but have a hard time pulling away from the trike. The metrics can pull the trike on the short straights but when they look again, there the trike is, it's right on their tails.

They pull into the lodge and see who is driving the trike.

It's a man and his wife in their late 60's on a GWing Trike pulling a trailer.

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This isn't about any disrespect for trikes, this is about asking others to simply respect the Laws of Physics...........A snippet from the previous copy 'n paste:

****I love telling this story... Two metrics heading south on the Dragon and a Trike just behind them. The metrics zip though the twisties but have a hard time pulling away from the trike. The metrics can pull the trike on the short straights but when they look again, there the trike is, it's right on their tails. They pull into the lodge and see who is driving the trike.

It's a man and his wife in their late 60's on a GWing Trike pulling a trailer.****

After reading this, I can only assume that neither the metric bikes or the GW trike were zipping thru the twisties. If you insist that they were, then I have to ask.........Do you honestly expect anyone to believe this story ?

A trike PULLING A TRAILER keeping up with two metrics as the "metrics zip through the twisties" ??? Granted, trike designs have improved for more stability for the trike itself, but add PULLING A TRAILER to that equation and all bets are off. Ain't gonna happen!

Additionally, there's a certain amount of responsibility that ought to be respected.

If a newbie trike rider is reading these posts, they might get a false sense of security, ride beyond the safe limits of their trike and it could be disastrous.

End of rant................
 
Ol' Grey said:
This isn't about any disrespect for trikes, this is about asking others to simply respect the Laws of Physics...........A snippet from the previous copy 'n paste:

****I love telling this story... Two metrics heading south on the Dragon and a Trike just behind them. The metrics zip though the twisties but have a hard time pulling away from the trike. The metrics can pull the trike on the short straights but when they look again, there the trike is, it's right on their tails. They pull into the lodge and see who is driving the trike.

It's a man and his wife in their late 60's on a GWing Trike pulling a trailer.****

After reading this, I can only assume that neither the metric bikes or the GW trike were zipping thru the twisties. If you insist that they were, then I have to ask.........Do you honestly expect anyone to believe this story ?

A trike PULLING A TRAILER keeping up with two metrics as the "metrics zip through the twisties" ??? Granted, trike designs have improved for more stability for the trike itself, but add PULLING A TRAILER to that equation and all bets are off. Ain't gonna happen!

Additionally, there's a certain amount of responsibility that ought to be respected.

If a newbie trike rider is reading these posts, they might get a false sense of security, ride beyond the safe limits of their trike and it could be disastrous.

End of rant................
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I don't think you were ranting at all. For a new trike rider the impression may be that anything goes. Hopefully they take it as light hearted as the story was told and continue to practice their riding skills. I would also think most all would agree that zipping around the Dragon, which is where I was told this took place, isn't wise yet you see video's depicting wild hair runs there all the time. You also see all the wreck video's while you are searching, yes?

The story I like to tell was read by me either on this forum or HDF. I was not there to see it. Can't keep up with guys that zip around anything.

Knowing what a GW will do is also out of my field of expertise. Maybe one that rides a GW trike will chime in.

Having owned a conversion before owning a TG is a good experience. I had thought poorly of the TG until I got the 2012.

I like it as much as the MT conversion with few exceptions.

Taking things with a grain of salt when you read online forums is good practice as well. Anyone here that has ridden with me, and several have, know I ride easy and enjoy the scenery. A few have been behind me when kicking up some dust for a bit also know safety is always #1 in my mind's eye.

Thanks for the comment Ol' Grey. If you ever see me chat out of line please snap back at me. ThumbUp
 
Everybody rides differently, that is fer sure. I know what I have witnessed and also been a part of. Just because I read how much fun it is to jump out of a perfectly good airplane with a piece of cloth tied to my back, does not mean I am going to go do it. When we tell our experiences on this forum, I would expect the other people on here have the maturity and brains to figure out if that is just someones story and not something they should or should not do. I believe that the smart people on this forum, no matter how inexperienced, are gonna ride to their own abilities, and not think they can jump over tall buildings or stop speeding freight trains just because someone else says they did.

Of course safety is a #1 priority as it should be with everyone. I have proven myself that Trikes will outrun metric or other brand 2 wheelers in the curves, and my wife was perfectly comfortable behind me while I did it. Rest assured that she lets me know if I am making her uncomfortable.

I think that anyone here that is at a stage in life where they can afford a Trike and all the responibility that goes with it has the common sense to ride to their own abilities, or they would not be where they are in life today.
 
Wizard and I had the pleasure of riding Trikes with each other up on really twisty Hwy 215 that leads up to the Blue Ridge Parkway back during the TRIKE TALK RALLY IN THE VALLEY in 2010.....had a lot of "ZIPPY FUN".....pepper
 
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Wizard and I had the pleasure of riding Trikes with each other up on really twisty Hwy 215 that leads up to the Blue Ridge Parkway back during the TRIKE TALK RALLY IN THE VALLEY in 2010.....had a lot of "ZIPPY FUN".....pepper
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... and that GW was eating my tail lights up. Thought you were going to just pass me with a huge HAHA on your face.:wave4:
 
Mr.Wizard said:
Comments? Is the TG wheelbase wider than a Motor Trike?
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I believe the wheelbase width is the same, the Triglide does have a tad over an inch longer wheelbase.

While I owned mine the only wheel I ever had off the ground was the front one, I road it plenty hard but never had it lift a back wheel off the ground. I never cut it any slack even while pulling a trailer, I hammered the corners just the same and it went right around them with no drama.
 
Wiz........Thanx for your civil reply. I believe we're all on the same page as far as safety goes. I HONESTLY don't mean to belittle trikes, quite the contrary. Whether it's 3 wheels or 2, my hope is that everyone has FUN and stays SAFE.

I've got a Bro who drove the Tail of the Dragon in his 'Vette (he also rides a Harley) and he had to keep the 'Vette in 2nd gear for most of that drive and even then, he scraped bottom more than once.

There's impressionable newbies that read forums, whether it be for 3 wheels or 2 and we can't know just how much info they might take the wrong way and might find themselves in a harrowing situation. Not cool.

This debate started in Hoghead's thread about being unhappy with his new TriGlide. The conversation drifted to trikes outrunning baggers in the twisties, to trikes outrunning metrics (including BMW's) to the story about a trike pulling a trailer keeping pace with whatever metric bikes those were running thru the twisties. In the other thread, I acknowledged that a trike could keep pace with "some" baggers thru the twisties, but it pretty much ends there for me and this is based solely on different designs and different steering techniques required for 3 wheels or 2 and, again, NOT to belittle trikes.

Trent..........I meant no offense in the other thread in what I said about the Beemers and I mean no offense here, either. You're free to believe that those Beemers gave it up, but I guarantee that they held back for safety reasons. Beemers are screamers and they can run the twisties like nobody's business. Maybe one day you'll experience what I'm only trying to share with you.

As far as a trike hauling a trailer and running hard around a corner.......the GoldWing trike pulling a trailer and keeping up with 2 metrics in the twisties simply defies the Law of Physics. That trailer would either want to tip, compromising one's handling ability, or the trailer would outright slide sideways and that wouldn't be pretty........Mike, when you say that you hauled a trailer and hammered the corners with no ill effects, my only thought is that you weren't hammering the corners "that" hard and/or that the corners simply weren't that tight.

Whether your choice is a trike or a bike, ENJOY it to the fullest and please Ride Safe, All..........ThumbUp
 
Hey Grey...No offense taken whatsoever!...And...I agree,,,They prob did hold back for safety reasons which is exactly my point! I felt very safe, and could have even gone faster, and they didnt. The Trike is simply more stable 2up, climbing a 7% grade with many curves, than the Beemers were in the same situation. I was in 5th gear doing 72 mph, and believe me when I say my passenger was perfectly fine at that speed, and I could have shifted into 6th with no problem. They had to lean way too far and I didnt.
Honestly, there is no way to guess what the curves or twisties are like in any paticular scenario without being there, so any judgements about safety, science, or abilities to handle them should be withheld. If we should not talk about our experiences or thoughts here because we might influence impressionable newbies, that would completely negate the purpose of an open forum. I maintain we are are all smart adults and we all take responsibility for our actions.

Last week I watched guys diving off a bridge with parachutes into the Snake River Canyon not far from the ramp that Evil Knivel flew off of in his "bike" to jump said canyon. Now that I have mentioned that, should I run a disclaimer that no one impressionable should do this? Nope. It is legal to do, so do it if you want. Your choice. If there is one thing I do when ridin', it is have fun and do it safely. If I dont, that is my choice also as long as it affects no one else.

That being said, I welcome any one passing thru Idaho to give me a call for a safely guided tour thru the amazing mountain passes and steep canyons here anytime! It is amazing what you will see here on a one day ride. I am flexible for time and we will go at your speed!! And ride safe everyone!
 
Mr.Wizard said:
... and that GW was eating my tail lights up. Thought you were going to just pass me with a huge HAHA on your face.:wave4:
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Nah....was havin' a Ball followin' Ya' up....about 5 miles into it, I turned around and told Mitzie...now, this is fun, this Guy can ride.....totally enjoyed it Buddy.....pepper ThumbUp
 
Trent said:
Hey Grey...No offense taken whatsoever!...And...I agree,,,They prob did hold back for safety reasons which is exactly my point! I felt very safe, and could have even gone faster, and they didnt. The Trike is simply more stable 2up, climbing a 7% grade with many curves, than the Beemers were in the same situation. I was in 5th gear doing 72 mph, and believe me when I say my passenger was perfectly fine at that speed, and I could have shifted into 6th with no problem. They had to lean way too far and I didnt.
Honestly, there is no way to guess what the curves or twisties are like in any paticular scenario without being there, so any judgements about safety, science, or abilities to handle them should be withheld. If we should not talk about our experiences or thoughts here because we might influence impressionable newbies, that would completely negate the purpose of an open forum. I maintain we are are all smart adults and we all take responsibility for our actions.

Last week I watched guys diving off a bridge with parachutes into the Snake River Canyon not far from the ramp that Evil Knivel flew off of in his "bike" to jump said canyon. Now that I have mentioned that, should I run a disclaimer that no one impressionable should do this? Nope. It is legal to do, so do it if you want. Your choice. If there is one thing I do when ridin', it is have fun and do it safely. If I dont, that is my choice also as long as it affects no one else.

That being said, I welcome any one passing thru Idaho to give me a call for a safely guided tour thru the amazing mountain passes and steep canyons here anytime! It is amazing what you will see here on a one day ride. I am flexible for time and we will go at your speed!! And ride safe everyone!
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Do I encourage safe riding practices in general or overall ? Yes, absolutely. More specifically, the story about a trike hauling a trailer and running twisties hard is not only unsafe, it's BOGUS as well as unsafe. But "judgements about safety, science, or abilities to handle them should be withheld" while tales of unsafe riding practices shouldn't ? I see a double standard there.

Yes, the Beemers held back because they had their ladies on the back and were wise enough not to chance wiping out at 72 mph. You and your lady were more stable on the trike. No argument there........But you're really underestimating BMW's, Trent. If they didn't have their ladies on those Beemers, they would have blown by you with ease. Any curve or corner that you can safely negotiate on a trike, they could easily negotiate as well by counter steering and leaning further than you might realize. You don't have to believe me. You can no doubt probably find a vid on YouTube showing a BMW rider running his/her bike thru it's paces, including twisties. I personally know owners of BMW's and I'm not kidding.....they ride FAST, they ride HARD and they LOVE running the twisties. One point to consider: With NO OFFENSE towards trikes, trikes aren't designed to run the twisties. BMW's on the other hand, most definitely are.

Have a GREAT week and Ride Safe.......
 
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