Oil Filter Drain M-8

[hddocfl]

http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/oil-catcher-drain-oil-funnel-pa-12-62700199--1

Anyone try this kit? If so how does it do the job. ? Thanks Doc

 

[1dn5up]

In other words; "Buy this, due to our engineering piss poor design !"

 

[bronxbill]

Friend bought one, oil still went everywhere when he took the filter off

 

[rhino 2]

I don't see Harley Davidson Emblazoned all over it... Me I' won't buy one..

 

[hddocfl]

Not having done my 1000 mile yet I was looking at the filter set up on this 2017 Tri M-8 motor, It looks like it will make a mess doing this filter change as the oil will run down on the water pump. I was thinking that with this kit on the filter, drill a hole in the filter top and bottom and let most of the oil drain to this funnel may even have to jack the right side of the Tri a little to get it to drain. I know the filter relocation kit would be the best but under warranty I hesitate to install it. Thanks Doc

 

[8Crow]

http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/oil-catcher-drain-oil-funnel-pa-12-62700199--1

Anyone try this kit? If so how does it do the job. ? Thanks Doc

Unless it works better that the one for the Twin Cams, it's a waste of money, IMHO.

I wish I could give a name credit to the person who posted the following picture of his solution but I can't remember...



Cheap solution and probably works as well as any commercial unit. Before you remove the filter, loosen it slightly and punch two holes in the end - one at the top to let air in and one at the bottom to let the oil drain into the tray (homemade or commercial).

I find if I do this first then remove the oil drain plug and leave everything drain for awhile, it saves a bunch of mess... Usually do my oil changes in the late afternoon after getting back from a ride and then leave everything drain overnight...

I know that this topic has been beat to death on the forums but just my $.2 (almost $.4 Cdn :gah lol

Good luck with whatever you use to save a mess...

Cheers

Doug

 

[ISP-FL]

The filter configuration is about the same on the 16's and 17's, and the exact same oil filter. I bought one of those for my 16. The first time I used it most of the oil ran past the end of it. This last time I figured I just didn't have it jammed in there good enough. It still ran down past it. The next time I drop my oil I probably will punch a hole in the bottom end of the filter and see if I can get it to drain into the thing before unscrewing filter.

I did buy Harley's flat oil pan that holds 10 quarts. It works really good and fits nicely under the bike.

 

[hddocfl]

The filter configuration is about the same on the 16's and 17's, and the exact same oil filter. I bought one of those for my 16. The first time I used it most of the oil ran past the end of it. This last time I figured I just didn't have it jammed in there good enough. It still ran down past it. The next time I drop my oil I probably will punch a hole in the bottom end of the filter and see if I can get it to drain into the thing before unscrewing filter.

I did buy Harley's flat oil pan that holds 10 quarts. It works really good and fits nicely under the bike.

I believe this drain funnel is a bit different in it shape as to previous funnels prior to the M-8 it has a lock tab on the filter end and twists into position and has room to clear the water pump connector. Doc

 

[Capt.Bob]

Aluminum foil works well. I have one of those Harley plastic thingies with the tube and it is "Hardley" better than nothing at all. What a mess. However, if you take some aluminum foil and make a double layer trough, it will be cheap and you discard the oil that pools in the trough. You just have to be a bit careful when removing the "trough" filled with a little oil.

 

[hddocfl]

Aluminum foil works well. I have one of those Harley plastic thingies with the tube and it is "Hardley" better than nothing at all. What a mess. However, if you take some aluminum foil and make a double layer trough, it will be cheap and you discard the oil that pools in the trough. You just have to be a bit careful when removing the "trough" filled with a little oil.

Capt Bob. Did you use it on the M-8 ? Thanks Doc

 

[Capt.Bob]

Capt Bob. Did you use it on the M-8 ? Thanks Doc

Doc, I did use the foil with great success on the 1000 mile service I performed on my M8-engined Tri Glide. The foil conforms to the underside of the filter in that fairly tight space. There are some impediments to removing the foil trough filled with oil and you just carefully have to remove the foil keeping it slightly tipped outward to keep the oil from going back toward the filter opening. If you do that, there is almost no oil that drips anywhere.

 

[Bill G]

The HD oil catcher funnel for the 2017 or M8 engine it works just fine if you install it right.

I loosen he oil filter first leaving it jut barley tight enough not to leak. Then I lay a thin microfiber towel in place covering everything under the oil filter.

I do this by pushing the towel up under the oil filter evenly and gently with a thin small long dowel. Then I carefully work the HD oil catcher in place making sure it goes all the way back under the oil filter and is in place like the instructions say, towel now under the HD funnel.

Then I use my ratchet extension and filter wrench ore my hand to spin the filter into the funnel letting the oil drain through the hose into a container. I wait a while make sure all is drained good.

I then remove the filter out of the HD funnel and remove the funnel. A little bit of oil will get on the towel during the HD funnel removal but not much. I then spin on a new oil filter with the O ring lubed and all is good.

I have read about guys having problems with this HD oil catcher funnel but that has not been the case for me at all.

Ride Safe All,

Bill G

 

[hddocfl]

The HD oil catcher funnel for the 2017 or M8 engine it works just fine if you install it right.

I loosen he oil filter first leaving it jut barley tight enough not to leak. Then I lay a thin microfiber towel in place covering everything under the oil filter.

I do this by pushing the towel up under the oil filter evenly and gently with a thin small long dowel. Then I carefully work the HD oil catcher in place making sure it goes all the way back under the oil filter and is in place like the instructions say, towel now under the HD funnel.

Then I use my ratchet extension and filter wrench ore my hand to spin the filter into the funnel letting the oil drain through the hose into a container. I wait a while make sure all is drained good.

I then remove the filter out of the HD funnel and remove the funnel. A little bit of oil will get on the towel during the HD funnel removal but not much. I then spin on a new oil filter with the O ring lubed and all is good.

I have read about guys having problems with this HD oil catcher funnel but that has not been the case for me at all.

Ride Safe All,

Bill G

Thanks Bill G. I bought it yesterday and thought it may work well . I test fitted it and seems to click in well but was not sure it would catch all the oil from the filter as I believe it snaps to the filter so when removing the filter off the housing I believe there would be a gap there and leak oil in front of the funnel. Thanks Doc

 

[DK Custom Products]

I have tried more methods for changing filters than I can remember. The one that I eventually defaulted to was the tin foil.

There are hundreds of threads like this across the internet...everyone having varying degrees of success with different methods.

The Factory design is ridiculous.

Relocating the oil filter not only makes it a complete non-issue to change, but will help the engine run cooler also.

From this-

To this-

Kevin

 

[Jenady]

:clapping: For the DK remote filter.

 

[desertclassic]

I solved my problem by installing the dual cool and filter relocation from DK Custom. No more mess and the dealer thinks it is a smart mod. Jim

 

[hddocfl]

I have tried more methods for changing filters than I can remember. The one that I eventually defaulted to was the tin foil.

There are hundreds of threads like this across the internet...everyone having varying degrees of success with different methods.

The Factory design is ridiculous.

Relocating the oil filter not only makes it a complete non-issue to change, but will help the engine run cooler also.

From this-

To this-

Kevin

Being that my Tri is so new and the M-8 is so new I wonder about warranty problems with the kit on it. I do plan on installing one later down the line. Thanks Doc

 

[gerald martin]

warranty

Being that my Tri is so new and the M-8 is so new I wonder about warranty problems with the kit on it. I do plan on installing one later down the line. Thanks Doc

My dealer in Canada says even a second oil cooler may void my warranty on the engine, it would all depend on the inspector.

 

[DK Custom Products]

I solved my problem by installing the dual cool and filter relocation from DK Custom. No more mess and the dealer thinks it is a smart mod. Jim

Now, that's a Smart Dealer!

Kevin

 

[mirider]

I must be the exception to the rule.....just changed oil and filter and had very little mess. Just laid a rag under the filter while I unscrewed it and tilted it back once it came loose. No oil mess and minimal drip after. I thought the process was relatively easy. ThumbUp

Not a huge fan of the looks of where that relo kit puts the filter but certainly can see it would be easier to change.

 

[headheaded]

i bought the erst trough and it works better and is cheaper than the HD one. i then notched the erst one so it goes in farther, punch two holes and let it drain.

 

[MB1953]

I had the DK Dual Cool system on my '14 TGU, and I LOVED it... really made oil changes a breeze, and really increased the value that I got from it when I traded it on the new '17 M8 TGU. Solved the oil change mess by getting the prepaid maintenance plan for the first 20K miles. After that, I will probably go back to the DK system.

 

[hddocfl]

Worked OK

I changed my oil on my 2017 Tri yesterday using the HD filter drain kit made for the M-8. I used a small dish towel under the filter pushed flat against the filter housing used a long skinny screw driver to get it in there loosen the filter just a tad as to not leak. Slid the funnel up in til it clicked in place drilled a hole in the top and bottom of the filter and let it drain , backed off the filter into the funnel let it set for awhile and removed the filter and funnel with no oil mess at all. Thought I would share this info. Doc

Thanks to Bill G for the tip !!

 

[Bill G]

I changed my oil on my 2017 Tri yesterday using the HD filter drain kit made for the M-8. I used a small dish towel under the filter pushed flat against the filter housing used a long skinny screw driver to get it in there loosen the filter just a tad as to not leak. Slid the funnel up in til it clicked in place drilled a hole in the top and bottom of the filter and let it drain , backed off the filter into the funnel let it set for awhile and removed the filter and funnel with no oil mess at all. Thought I would share this info. Doc

Thanks to Bill G for the tip !!

That is exactly what I do Doc, I normally put one hole in the filter at the bottom but I think I might try two like you did next time.

Ride Safe,

Bill G

 

[67wizard]

I put a rag under the filter then turn the filter just a little.

I put a rubber glove around the filter then remove it

with very little spill 98% of the oil is in the glove. Just

wipe what did leak and then replace with new filter.

 

[hddocfl]

The M-8 oil filter is a little tight compared previous years Not much room in that area to get at the filter. Doc

 

[Phu Cat]

View attachment 45031​Bought this gizmo after my 2nd messy oil change on our 2012 Tglide. Also built a 5" ramp for the right rear wheel to drive up on to assure all the gunk gets expelled at oil change time. Oil changes much easier and cleaner now. Using K&N oil filter makes things so many times easier also. Don't make the mistake I did back in '88 and forget to lube the new oil filter gasket or you next oil change will be a lesson in frustration.

PC

 

[Trampas]

Was at the dealer the other day and we was talking about the oil filter and the mess, he told me to go to a auto parts store and buy pig mat, cut enough off and lay it under the filter and take it off and tip it up as fast as you can, I guess the pig mat absorbs what oil does spill and no mess, will try it the next time I change oil, just did it awhile ago so not due yet. I had a little spillage the way I did it with a cut out of a milk jug, works good on my road king but not as good with the triglide because of the lowers I guess, not enough room to work around in there.

All for now Trampas