Baby is home

[John Luciano]

Well I brought it home . The bike is DEAD. no click no sound. The lights all work the horn etc. even the built in radio. But if you hit the starter no sound , I would think you would still hear the solenoid click. since you must be sitting on the bike kickstand up, brakes on, I need someone to short out the solenoid . HERE it is Not a trike yet anyway

 

[BlueTrinity]

John,

Two obvious places to start.

1. Check kill (run/stop) switch for malfunction.

2. On most of these you have to pull the brake lever to start. There is an actuating switch in the lever housing which opens current to the starter. Check for continuity when the switch is open.

Odds are it is one of these two places.

 

[John Luciano]

The kick stand switch is working because I see the light com on to say it is down . Sounds like the solenoid is not ticking . Now I agree with you sounds to simple to be that starter. I would think even it it was dead you would hear something . We are going to start with the starter motor to see if it at least turns. then move to the solenoid and if that works it has to be of the safety things like you said . I checked all the connectors and fuses This unit has never been started . Right out of the box. I can't even smell gas in the tank and there is none in the in line filter

 

[trike lady]

Okay, who makes it? There must be a warranty on it? Getting parts for it will be fun.
Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Gorilla]

The kick stand switch is working because I see the light com on to say it is down . Sounds like the solenoid is not ticking . Now I agree with you sounds to simple to be that starter. I would think even it it was dead you would hear something . We are going to start with the starter motor to see if it at least turns. then move to the solenoid and if that works it has to be of the safety things like you said . I checked all the connectors and fuses This unit has never been started . Right out of the box. I can't even smell gas in the tank and there is none in the in line filter

Looks good I hope you find the problem. I wonder if it might need gas in it. Some type of relay off the fuel gage or sending unit. Never heard of one before but you never know.

 

[Maria]

That is one cool-looking beast even on 2 wheels! Any love on a low battery? Maybe there's enough to light the panel but not enough to push the starter?

 

[John Luciano]

I am using a booster battery pack. I used it to start a car last week. Seems like it is Electrically dead not started motor dead. Fuses all look good. Damp and raining here for the next 3 days. Friday looks good.

 

[denviola]

Had to do a search to see what a V3 was, very cool. There is a guy in my area that advertises parts and repairs for those bikes, and never gave them much thought until now. Interesting body lines, keep us posted!

 

[Buggie Pilot]

I would check to see if the solenoid is grounded poorly

 

[Ironhorsepilot]

John, JIB on here.....she has the can-am spyder has the Shapero (sp) Qlink's version of the V3. She had some battery starting problems at one time. Maybe she will know what it is. You can look her up and PM her.

 

[John Luciano]

Thank u I need to talk to people that have them . there is a button under that cover tha has me ?????

 

[John Luciano]

Well it is in pieces . The motor is fine I put a little Marvel Mystery oil in the plug hole and cranked it by hand , very smooth with no plug . I replaced the plug has good compression. I shorted out the solenoid and nothing . Next I will remove the starter and bench test it.

 

[redneckray]

John,
when you turn the key on and plug[spark] grounded and you crank by hand. Are you getting any spark at all?

 

[John Luciano]

I need to wait til I can turn it over with a key. There are so many safety switches that it is a 3 man job to try that . Rear brake must be on full, kickstand up kill switch on ,key on. Got to get anew battery and a starter maybe the solenoid too.

 

[ThirdWheel]

John - you can just jump from the battery (or jump pack) to the starter, that will bypass everything to let you know if the starter is good or not.

 

[John Luciano]

shorting out the solenoid does the same thing. The solenoid sends 12V to the + terminal of the starter motor when the coil is energized by the starter button. so if you jump the terminals it acts like the starter is being sent 12 v directly

 

[jlb]

Nice....loved mine (ok, it's still in the garage, poor dusty bike). The original batteries that come with those bikes is really bad. If it had any fuel in it i'd tell you to clear out the carbs & fuel lines. Mine requires that any time it sits for a long period of time. Let me pull the paperwork to see what I've had done to the sapero.

janet b

 

[ThirdWheel]

John - I saw in the chat box where you got the starter to turn over. What did you do different than before to get it to work?

 

[redneckray]

Probably hooked up the battery, lol

 

[John Luciano]

I am shorting out the Starter rely with a screwdriver. by doing the you are hooking the wires + and - directly to the motor by passing all electronics. old trick I learned when we wanted to steal dads car with no key.

 

[redneckray]

I am glad that i am not the only one that did that to take the car to the hot date, grinn, you old devil, grinn

 

[ThirdWheel]

Well it is in pieces . The motor is fine I put a little Marvel Mystery oil in the plug hole and cranked it by hand , very smooth with no plug . I replaced the plug has good compression. I shorted out the solenoid and nothing . Next I will remove the starter and bench test it.

Isn't that the same?

 

[Lunchbox1983]

I am shorting out the Starter rely with a screwdriver. by doing the you are hooking the wires + and - directly to the motor by passing all electronics. old trick I learned when we wanted to steal dads car with no key.

My Dad spent 2 years doing that to his old ford, cause he was too cheap to fix the switch. It was my job when i rode with him around the farm.

 

[John Luciano]

You had to remember to run a wire from the battery to the + side of the coil too or it would not start

 

[Lunchbox1983]

You had to remember to run a wire from the battery to the + side of the coil too or it would not start

yep, we had a crappy old Massey Ferguson farm tractor you had to start the same way, except one hand had to be spraying ether in the intake to get it to fire.

One this was for sure it was exciting when you jammed a screw driver against the posts sparks flying and you realized you left that sucker in gear as it lurches along, Old man screaming at you from across the field, good days, great memories.

 

[BenO]

I had a bad fuseable link on a guzzi that was strong enough to give power to everything but the starter. major amp draw on that operation. It took them a awhile to figuare out that it was bad with it not full blown. lost most of its restiance.

A thought any way. Good Luck

 

[Loner]

Not kidding - just last Tuesday I started my old Massey Ferguson 165 with a screwdriver on the solenoid. It has safety contact switches in the clutch (must be fully compressed), and in the hi-lo range shifter (must be in neutral) before it will start. Fishing for the shifter's sweet-spot 'neutral' point is sometimes a challenge, so I keep a screwdriver handy.

Gonna fix that someday, see - it's right here on my list and is currently down as project #432.

 

[Gorilla]

AHHH The good old days when you could easily "BORROW" someones car without damaging it. If you were really good you got it back without them knowing you "borrowed it"

 

[skuuter]

AHHH The good old days when you could easily "BORROW" someones car without damaging it. If you were really good you got it back without them knowing you "borrowed it"

Hmmmm, and to think I was the only one on this Forum aware of "that" system....:laugh:

 

[John Luciano]

That all ended with power door locks and hood locks. I got caught because I ran out of gas and I put in more than it had in it when I borrowed it.
Now that I hijacked my own thread. I played a trick on a friend . Every night I would add a quart or 2 of gas to his VW. I got him up to around 80 MPG then we started siphoning out a QT every night and he got about 20 MPG