Starting my 3.8 v6 Super Charged Trike Build

[rrunner]

Like how this is going!!! Yeah that old tv won't look good on the trike, better put in an LED flat panel tv for sure

 

[irmagoo]

ok I been at a impass for about 3 days.. the trike has 12&1/2 ft. wheel base as it sets. I wanted under 10 ft but can,t get there as its going..
I redrew trike moved steering head back some and changed angle to around 32 degree, moved passenger seat back as far as possible with things as they are .. see photo 1. wheel base is about 11 ft. now still seems long to me drawing 2. is my first drawing 12.5 ft.. I know the drawing's are ruff but hope you can see the difference in the 2. also 2 squares = 1 ft.
so wife says consider seats side by side...ok that's a thought should knock off 3 ft. but I can forget about using a bike windshield!!
could move rad to rear frees up 6 inch but a lot of changes to do it
can also probably tighten up our leg room some...
any thought out there??
I'm I missing the obvious?
I think a little move rake on front end looks better...I think both will handle good- I just like longer front ends.. through back from the late 60,s I guess!!
or is the long wheel base no big deal?
I was hoping be able to make tight turn you know...
hmmmmm got to do something so what say you?
magoo

 

[John Luciano]

On most motorcycles legs of passenger are right next to rider. ( almost overlap ) you don't need knee room or foot room for pass. There is nothing on the side of you..

 

[irmagoo]

On most motorcycles legs of passenger are right next to rider. ( almost overlap ) you don't need knee room or foot room for pass. There is nothing on the side of you..

hi john
I know that's how bike is.. but though since my design has perimeter frame and flat floor, why not more leg room for passenger?? but you bring up a good point I could make my seat base narrower say 10 inch wider and just have 1 inch tubing on top extend out each side to seat mounts, I think they are 14&1/4 wide center to center... and then my seat back some,, wife won't complain. hey its getting shorter as we go!! thanks for the input john..
magoo

 

[John Luciano]

I personal think legs stretched out for a pass is more comfortable than sitting in a chair with feet in front. More stable too.

 

[skuuter]

I personal think legs stretched out for a pass is more comfortable than sitting in a chair with feet in front. More stable too.

Definitely.....much better circulation......ThumbUp

 

[irmagoo]

yes I agree with you both...
my thinking was the room in front of passenger seat would make it easier to get seated(no need to hike leg up and over seat).. would think that passenger would stretch out, use foot pegs or what ever once seated...
in my case I'm not sure how wife knees will be down the road...
what I know for sure is that spacing is shrinking as we talk
magoo

 

[rrunner]

As I see it the length of the trike really doesn't matter. Mine is approximately 16 feet long from end to end and it still whips a u turn on a two lane road without a problem. And think about it, when the wife is happy, the driver is happy too. I first had my vw trike at about 11 feet long when I first got done but soon found to be popping wheelieswithout even trying. In the end I ended up extending the length to it's current size. I also built a leading link front end and done away with the motorcycle front end. Now everyone is happy.

 

[slick rick]

ThumbUp Loving this thread ,,can't wait to see more . Keep up the good work and good luck .

 

[irmagoo]

ThumbUp Loving this thread ,,can't wait to see more . Keep up the good work and good luck .

thanks slick rick
I've been work'n on front section .. I will post some pics in a few days....still work'n out seat height, location and the length of trike wheel base shorter I can get frame the better i'll like it.. hope to have that sorted out by tomorrow sometime..
magoo

 

[skuuter]

Definitely a Great Build Thread....keep it coming.....ThumbUp:10:

 

[irmagoo]

hi guys
I made some progress on trike.,..,
figured out seat placement even got the wife up on the trike to see if she approved of seat placement hey if she's happy I'm happy
1. in this shot you can kind of see the steering head location ...
its kicked out at 22.5 degrees this will be changed to straight up and down, this will move steering head about 12 inches closer to me...about the same as my hd. and shorten wheel base too!!
2. this shot shows spacing... 4-1/2 inch between seats( any closer and its not comfortable seats are wide!) .. drivers seat is 4 inch lower.
so this is starting to move forward at last!! I need to weld up the lower frame then I think I will get it off jig put tires on rear put a jack stand up front and draw up front end...oh yea !! that's what I been wait'n for!!
magoo

 

[rbourne3]

I've been watching with interest since I'm considering a v6 trike in the near future. Now that I see more of your frame, I have a suggestion on the wheelbase "problem" (I like them long). Move the upright for the neck back to the rear of the center bar and let your feet go on either side, like this. Then you can use more rake for a longer front end if you want.

 

[irmagoo]

I've been watching with interest since I'm considering a v6 trike in the near future. Now that I see more of your frame, I have a suggestion on the wheelbase "problem" (I like them long). Move the upright for the neck back to the rear of the center bar and let your feet go on either side, like this. Then you can use more rake for a longer front end if you want.

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hi rbourne3

I like your trike looks vary nice!!

as I said I'm going to move head location back to just above lower frame front vary much like yours!!!

your trike looks like around 12-12.5 foot wheel base I'm I close??

I'm thinking that I want a fairing/ some sort of body on front of trike... but I sure like the long open front end looks and the open frame look you have is vary cool!! I have a long way to go before I need to make that decision

thanks for the input all food for thought!!

magoo

 

[rbourne3]

I've got lots of pics at http://thebournes.us/ There are 4 leading link front ends, 2 leaf spring front ends and 1 girder. I think I've almost figured out my "keeper."

 

[irmagoo]

I've got lots of pics at http://thebournes.us/ There are 4 leading link front ends, 2 leaf spring front ends and 1 girder. I think I've almost figured out my "keeper."

hey rbourne3... looks like a keeper to meThumbUp
and thanks for the link!!
magoo

 

[irmagoo]

hi guys and gals ,
I made a little progress this week ...
I revamped front of frame and shortened up wheel base think I'm keeping changes and moving on!!
1. shows the new location of steering head and moved front seat inch forward.
2. engine area rear wheel/tire(18x8wheels-225/40r18tires) and seating with the extra inch between seats I can get my feet through there!! so all is well.
3. approximant location of front wheel.
4. just a different angle of front.
will be doing more welding and tube bending this week,, waiting on new liner for my larger mig welder to much setting in non-heated area last winter I guess old liner is corroded.
any way I'm going to try and finish up the frame in a week or two depenfing on when I get welder going I can tack up with my smaller welder sp175 but only have .026 wire in it...would prefer using larger wire and that's in the larger welder.... there is plenty to do !!!
more later magoo

 

[irmagoo]

ok had a little time to spend on trike today so refigured wheel base should be a little over 11 ft. I can live with this hey I was going to live with 12 and 1/2 foot!!

I changed out idlers and belts on engine- this was a pain had to jack up engine as you must take off motor mount and bracket to install them... would be tuff to do on the road for sure!!

then I went through brakes on rear... need to order master cyc. for trike any suggestion's out there?? guess i'll google it and see what pops up has anyone tied one front brake into rear brake system? with say a adjustable proportional valve? I'm I making this to hard to do?? I've done this on street rod never a bike or trike...whata ya say out there good idea bad idea????

I'm making progress a little at a time...

magoo

 

[irmagoo]

well I think i'll consider linked brakes down the road ordered single circuit master cylinder for rear brakes...header wrap for ss steel header I installed-tooo close to radiator fans,,, will get this stuff taken care of and move on!! welder liner should be here in the am that will get welder going again.. I will go or call the local bike shop and price front tire...best price I've found for Michelin pilot active 130/70/18 was $107&change delivered..bike bandit..i want to get trike off the jig and setting on rear wheels in a few days-then level up frame and go to work on front end!!
more later...magoo

 

[slick rick]

ThumbUp,,,,Trial and error , the second one will be easier but we're learning right along with you . The one thing though we're not doing all this work but I feel for you if that helps . Keep up the good work and keep us posted ,,,,,reading it all .

 

[irmagoo]

hi folks got my welder up and runn'n welds great if I only had young eyes!! have been working on header wrap and such need to get this stuff done to move on ... finished welding strut spacers up and stuck wheels on to check all clearances seems ok to me,,, triangulated / measured from steering head to rear wheel-lower ball joints its with in a 16th. of an inch,,, and the cradle is mounted with rubber isolators so don't know if it will stay but I will get it dead on this week end and finish weld it... after its been run a few times think a re-check will be called for....
will go to sons shop Saturday am to bend some tubing ...frames about done pics by Sunday I hope...
magoo

 

[irmagoo]

well its been a while since I talked about the trike build,, I broke frame down into two section so that I could weld up all areas on bottom of frame that I could not get to easily on jig.. i'm a one man band so the completed frame is to heavy for me to lift off over motor/trans.. I will paint all inaccessible areas before reassembling frame, true it up and weld sections together... then this build is coming off the jig and will be setting on its rear tires.. load up frame to approx.. finished weight, level up frame and build front end.. its wearing me out talking about it!!!:xzqxz:
I better get out there and get er done I've got to buy front tire soon avon trike tire still not buyable so Michelin or Bridgestone ??? pics to come later...
magoo

 

[irmagoo]

well time waits for no one I got to get on the skick!! and get this done!!
ok while I had front end of frame off to weld I bent up belly pans
1. shows pans on frame
2.just shows front pc. and
3. this shows weather lap folded up on each pc.
4.&5. shows frame welded up for keeps!!
tomorrow if the stars are in my favor i'll bend up running board and install them..
I hope to have this off jig soon running out of summer!!
magoo

 

[slick rick]

AWE sweet progress , sometimes the stars just shine ,,,KEEP US POSTED

 

[irmagoo]

well I have not made much progress on trike in the last month or so getting things ready for winter and ... we got new jeep unlimited rubiconepper:.. its been occupying my time !!! now heading to bluebird coach rally in pine mountain ga. ...will be back in a few weeks and stay until after thanks giving-spend some time with kids& grandkids... I'll work on front end and wiring then .... won't get to building body untill spring think we're heading west this winter down to texas and then ???? we'll see maybe Arizona.

magoo

 

[slick rick]

Have a good one my friend epper:,,that sounds like a good one in GA. never heard of it . I really like the old bus conversions though,,,but just a little spoiled have to stick with all my slideouts and auto jacks .

 

[Texmate]

Go for it . Sounds great!

 

[irmagoo]

Have a good one my friend epper:,,that sounds like a good one in GA. never heard of it . I really like the old bus conversions though,,,but just a little spoiled have to stick with all my slideouts and auto jacks .

hi rick,

there are a few blue bird schoolie conversions but the lion share are purpose builds that where always motor coaches, built in Georgia and the blue bird wanderlodge factory,, they stopped production in 2006.. the market had been bad for many years due to economy/ fuel cost etc. check out http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums the banner on top " buy buy blue bird" shows some used bb. coaches for sell you may be surprised at the amenities in a wanderlodge..

I'm irmagoo on that forum also, the wonderlodge motor coaches were limited production and still considered to be one of the best by many ... our 97-40 fter. has every thing we need cummins m11/ 6 speed Allison, hydronic heat, 3 ac's 2 tv, sat dish, washer/dryer, etc. - no slides though, we have had them , enjoyed them and chose to not have them for now.

irmagoo

 

[irmagoo]

hi all

well I,m back in ill. as spring is here soon

spent the winter down south thinking about my trike project and eating some fine southern cook'n.

I'll get trike on the floor and get to work on front end.

magoo

 

[kodiak93657]

We're all waiting with baited breath bro! can't wait to see this scooter scootin down the road!epper: