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Been there and done that.....
Been there and done that.....
Welcome to the site, Joe! And welcome to the military and veterans section. Come back to visit as often as you can. Thank you for your service.
Bubba
Bubba
Do you remember this (Ba Mui Ba.) Some of you will.
Segue alert
Back in the days of sailing ships woman were never welcome aboard the ships
There was a superstition that Seaman and Woman don't mix....
Back in the days of sailing ships woman were never welcome aboard the ships
There was a superstition that Seaman and Woman don't mix....
Back in the days of sailing ships woman were never welcome aboard the ships
There was a superstition that Seaman and Woman don't mix....
Since you mention it here’s a good music video about drunken sailors.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7dwUw0qIlwE&feature=youtu.be
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Here's a question about sailors and probably the most famous; Popeye, was he a Chief Petty Officer? I did see a challenge coin of Popeye as one. I know this is a bit off topic, but maybe someone may have the answer. We had been talking about old cartoons and that had come up. I always thought he was a regular enlisted man.
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Peter A.
1000+ Posts
Popeye
That pretty much says it all.......he was just a REGULAR guy, one of the rough/tumble workers,
:laugh:
That pretty much says it all.......he was just a REGULAR guy, one of the rough/tumble workers,
:laugh:
peteg59
Meme Master
Bout nails it Bubba.:clapping:
Served many MidRats to drunken shipmates, and had only one actually challenge me to a fight for not serving "fresh" chow at the midnite hour...
Popeye was definitely not "Chief" material. Maybe he was "promoted" posthumously???:Shrug:
Served many MidRats to drunken shipmates, and had only one actually challenge me to a fight for not serving "fresh" chow at the midnite hour...
Popeye was definitely not "Chief" material. Maybe he was "promoted" posthumously???:Shrug:
Bout nails it Bubba.:clapping:
Served many MidRats to drunken shipmates, and had only one actually challenge me to a fight for not serving "fresh" chow at the midnite hour...
Popeye was definitely not "Chief" material. Maybe he was "promoted" posthumously???:Shrug:
Thanks Pete. You just gave me a trivia question “When did Popeye retire?” I think I’ll use it during CPO initiation this year when I run into the selectees at the Navy base in Charleston S.C..
Bubba
GETTING TO KNOW THE REAL JOHN MC CAIN
John McCain's home in Arizona. Not bad for a man who worked in the military, left the military and then ran for Congress. He has been in Congress since 1983...for 34 years.
McCain graduated 894th in his class of 899 students from the Naval Academy. He was known for being wild and it usually revolved around women. He was a member of a group of students who called themselves "The Bad Bunch".
He married Carol Shepp who was a successful swimsuit model. She had been married to one of his classmates and had two children from her first marriage. She and McCain became parents for a daughter one year later. He had been quite a playboy and was already becoming bored with the domesticated life. He requested active duty in Vietnam. While he was there Carol faithfully stayed at home looking after the children and waiting anxiously for news about her husband. His plane was shot down in 1967 and he became a POW.
On Christmas Eve 1969 Carol and the children were spending the holiday with her parents. After dinner she was going to take gifts to some friends. The road was icy and she slid head-on into a telephone pole. She was thrown from the car through the front window. Her legs, spine and right arm were crushed and she was in the hospital for 6 months. Ross Perot was an advocate of POW's and he paid her medical bills. She requested that John not be told because she felt he already had enough to deal with.
McCain was released in 1973 and returned home to much fanfare. Carol had several surgeries, lost 5 inches in height and gained some weight.. McCain told reporters he was overjoyed to see Carol again. But friends say privately he was ‘appalled’ by the change in her appearance.
As a war hero, McCain was moving in ever-more elevated circles. "He started carousing and running around with women.", reported Robert Timberg. Bob Timberg was a retired Marine, an American journalist, writer and author of four books, including THE NIGHTINGALE'S SONG and JOHN MCCAIN: AN AMERICAN ODYSSEY.
McCain admitted he started having many girlfriends and affairs during this time. On one trip to Hawaii he met an Anheuser Busch distributer heiress Cindy Hensley at a cocktail party. She was 17 years younger than McCain and worth $100 million dollars. He invited her to have drinks with him at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. He said by the end of the evening he was in love.
They had an affair for nine months while he was still married to and living with his wife Carol. McCain wanted to marry Cindy but needed first to get a divorce. He and Carol separated in January 1980. He requested a divorce in February, the divorce was sped along and granted in April. He and Cindy married 5 weeks after the divorce was final on May 17, 1980. Carol and their children were devastated. McCain callously left his first wife and children behind. He and Cindy moved to Arizona. Cindy's father was well-connected and helped McCain move smoothly into Congress representing Arizona in Washington DC.
McCain's new wife and her family were extravagantly wealthy. Her father was one of the largest distributors of Anheuser Busch in the country and she was an only child. The divorce settlement afforded Carol McCain full custody of their three children, alimony, child support, including college tuition, houses in Virginia and Florida and lifelong financial support for her continuing medical treatment from the car accident.
Carol said the reason for the divorce was John turned 40 and he wanted to be 25 again. Carol was extremely hurt. She went to work as the press assistant for soon-to-be First Lady Nancy Reagan. She became loved and respected in Washington. She kept a dignified silence about the horrendous way McCain had treated her.
Some of the McCain friends were less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons.
Despite his popularity as a politician there are those who have not forgotten his treatment of his first wife. Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights.
Ted said, "I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is...deceit.
"When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it. Eventually he met Cindy and she was young, beautiful and very wealthy. McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.
"This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. Yet he has no character. He is a fake."
Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel, even by the standards of modern politics.
Mr. Perot said, "McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory.
After he came home Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.
A man who cannot be faithful to a loving, self-sacrificing wife cannot be trusted to be faithful to the American people.
Cindy has also had to learn the lessons about her husband the hard way. Even though she and McCain put on a perfect front for the public, especially when he is running for office, she really is an invisible wife to him.
Tom Gosinski, who served as director of Cindy McCain’s nonprofit American Voluntary Medical Team (AVMT) wrote in his journal about the McCain marriage:
"During my short tenure at AVMT I have been surrounded by what on the surface appears to be the ultimate all-American family. In reality, I am working for a very sad, lonely woman. Her marriage of convenience to a U.S. Senator has driven her to distance herself from friends, cover feelings of despair with drugs and replace lonely moments with self-indulgences. She became addicted to Percocet and had a doctor prescribing them for her illegally. When her parents learned she was taking them they helped her stop.
Washington rumors were saying McCain had an inappropriate relationship with the young and lovely lobbyist, Vicki Iseman. Ms. Iseman began visiting McCain's offices and campaign events so frequently in 2000 that his aides were "convinced the relationship had become romantic". One staff member supposedly asked, "Why is she always around?" His staff members began a campaign to "save McCain from himself" by restricting Iseman's access to McCain during the course of the 2000 presidential primary. According to the Washington Post, McCain's political advisor John Weaver met with Iseman at Washington's Union Station to tell Iseman not to see McCain anymore.
It is not a real marriage between John and Cindy McCain. Real marriages usually involve living together. McCain and Cindy have not "lived" together for 20 years. To defend this, McCain brags the family takes two vacations together every year and Ms. McCain is the one who has always made that happen."
Two vacations per year? What a farce and fake! Nothing about this man is real. He has no compassion or empathy for anyone except himself. The only real thing emotion he is capable of is anger. He is famous for his anger.
His father and grandfather were both decorated Navy Admirals. He was given special privileges and extreme preferential treatment while he served in the Navy. He was a pilot but according to his colleagues he was a very bad pilot. He actually crashed three planes. There was a horrendous incident that happened on his aircraft carrier, the U.S.S. Forrestal, that killed 134 men. There has been a debate since the incident with some being convinced John McCain was responsible for this accident. Others are angry about anyone who would dare speak against a Naval officer and embarrass an entire branch of service.
a friend who I knew in his second career as the head of the Navy safety board was the weapons officer on the carrier at the time has nothing good to say about McCain.
Many witnesses have reported that McCain was guilty of a "wet start". When a pilot wants to be a show off, with a "wet start" his engine start creates a large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on start up. McCain did the "Wet Start". It was not an accident. The flames from the wet start torched off the launching of a powerful Zuni rocket on the plane behind him. The Zuni rockets were famous for having electrical problems. It shot across the carrier’s deck hitting other parked planes that were packing 1,000 high-explosive pound bombs. This caused the bombs to explode. The subsequent massive explosions, fire and destruction went several decks below and nearly sunk this major 82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier.
This stunt and aftermath caused the death of 134 sailors and blew off arms, legs and caused blindness and burns to another 161 sailors. McCain jumped from his plane, rolled across the flames and escaped. He watched the men dying and the burning from a closed circuit television on the ship. Sadly all of those lives were lost.
They had to take the ship off the battle line for 2 years when it had to be taken back to port for $76 million dollars of extensive repairs. That does not include the cost of replacing the airplanes or ammunition.
Other Navy pilots causing this type of death and destruction would have been arrested and would probably still be in prison. Why didn't this happened to John McCain?
McCain's grandfather was a famous FOUR STAR Navy admiral and his dad, at the time of the incident, was also a powerful illustrious FOUR STAR Navy admiral. McCain had graduated from the Naval Academy. Witnesses say the good ole boy Navy tradition went into high gear immediately. McCain was not even repremanded. When there is a cover-up, the soldier is usually simply assigned to another ship. McCain was quietly assigned to another ship. There is an ongoing debate about the incident to this day.
John McCain's lack of character was further demonstrated when he voted not to repeal Obamacare. He had run his 2016 Senatorial race under the banner he would LEAD the fight to repeal Obamacare. He hates Donald Trump so very much he gleefully held his thumb down for his vote rather than a thumbs up. He laughed afterwards and said, "Let's see Donald Trump save America now!"
What a horrible man. He stabbed his constituents and the citizens of America in the back. Liberal socialists now call him their hero.
McCain has recently discovered he has a brain tumor. I am genuinely sorry for anyone who has to face a health issue especially when it involves cancer. Thankfully for him the doctors have said it is curable. The fact that he now has a brain tumor does not change the horrendous things he has done in his life because of his extremely low flawed character.
If Senator McCain's own health care was dependent on the Obamacare he has continued to saddle the American people with, I guarantee he would not have voted thumbs-down. But because he married a wealthy heiress and has plenty of money to take care of his own health needs, he does not care.
What a guy...what a guy!
John McCain's home in Arizona. Not bad for a man who worked in the military, left the military and then ran for Congress. He has been in Congress since 1983...for 34 years.
McCain graduated 894th in his class of 899 students from the Naval Academy. He was known for being wild and it usually revolved around women. He was a member of a group of students who called themselves "The Bad Bunch".
He married Carol Shepp who was a successful swimsuit model. She had been married to one of his classmates and had two children from her first marriage. She and McCain became parents for a daughter one year later. He had been quite a playboy and was already becoming bored with the domesticated life. He requested active duty in Vietnam. While he was there Carol faithfully stayed at home looking after the children and waiting anxiously for news about her husband. His plane was shot down in 1967 and he became a POW.
On Christmas Eve 1969 Carol and the children were spending the holiday with her parents. After dinner she was going to take gifts to some friends. The road was icy and she slid head-on into a telephone pole. She was thrown from the car through the front window. Her legs, spine and right arm were crushed and she was in the hospital for 6 months. Ross Perot was an advocate of POW's and he paid her medical bills. She requested that John not be told because she felt he already had enough to deal with.
McCain was released in 1973 and returned home to much fanfare. Carol had several surgeries, lost 5 inches in height and gained some weight.. McCain told reporters he was overjoyed to see Carol again. But friends say privately he was ‘appalled’ by the change in her appearance.
As a war hero, McCain was moving in ever-more elevated circles. "He started carousing and running around with women.", reported Robert Timberg. Bob Timberg was a retired Marine, an American journalist, writer and author of four books, including THE NIGHTINGALE'S SONG and JOHN MCCAIN: AN AMERICAN ODYSSEY.
McCain admitted he started having many girlfriends and affairs during this time. On one trip to Hawaii he met an Anheuser Busch distributer heiress Cindy Hensley at a cocktail party. She was 17 years younger than McCain and worth $100 million dollars. He invited her to have drinks with him at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. He said by the end of the evening he was in love.
They had an affair for nine months while he was still married to and living with his wife Carol. McCain wanted to marry Cindy but needed first to get a divorce. He and Carol separated in January 1980. He requested a divorce in February, the divorce was sped along and granted in April. He and Cindy married 5 weeks after the divorce was final on May 17, 1980. Carol and their children were devastated. McCain callously left his first wife and children behind. He and Cindy moved to Arizona. Cindy's father was well-connected and helped McCain move smoothly into Congress representing Arizona in Washington DC.
McCain's new wife and her family were extravagantly wealthy. Her father was one of the largest distributors of Anheuser Busch in the country and she was an only child. The divorce settlement afforded Carol McCain full custody of their three children, alimony, child support, including college tuition, houses in Virginia and Florida and lifelong financial support for her continuing medical treatment from the car accident.
Carol said the reason for the divorce was John turned 40 and he wanted to be 25 again. Carol was extremely hurt. She went to work as the press assistant for soon-to-be First Lady Nancy Reagan. She became loved and respected in Washington. She kept a dignified silence about the horrendous way McCain had treated her.
Some of the McCain friends were less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons.
Despite his popularity as a politician there are those who have not forgotten his treatment of his first wife. Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights.
Ted said, "I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is...deceit.
"When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it. Eventually he met Cindy and she was young, beautiful and very wealthy. McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.
"This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. Yet he has no character. He is a fake."
Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel, even by the standards of modern politics.
Mr. Perot said, "McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory.
After he came home Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.
A man who cannot be faithful to a loving, self-sacrificing wife cannot be trusted to be faithful to the American people.
Cindy has also had to learn the lessons about her husband the hard way. Even though she and McCain put on a perfect front for the public, especially when he is running for office, she really is an invisible wife to him.
Tom Gosinski, who served as director of Cindy McCain’s nonprofit American Voluntary Medical Team (AVMT) wrote in his journal about the McCain marriage:
"During my short tenure at AVMT I have been surrounded by what on the surface appears to be the ultimate all-American family. In reality, I am working for a very sad, lonely woman. Her marriage of convenience to a U.S. Senator has driven her to distance herself from friends, cover feelings of despair with drugs and replace lonely moments with self-indulgences. She became addicted to Percocet and had a doctor prescribing them for her illegally. When her parents learned she was taking them they helped her stop.
Washington rumors were saying McCain had an inappropriate relationship with the young and lovely lobbyist, Vicki Iseman. Ms. Iseman began visiting McCain's offices and campaign events so frequently in 2000 that his aides were "convinced the relationship had become romantic". One staff member supposedly asked, "Why is she always around?" His staff members began a campaign to "save McCain from himself" by restricting Iseman's access to McCain during the course of the 2000 presidential primary. According to the Washington Post, McCain's political advisor John Weaver met with Iseman at Washington's Union Station to tell Iseman not to see McCain anymore.
It is not a real marriage between John and Cindy McCain. Real marriages usually involve living together. McCain and Cindy have not "lived" together for 20 years. To defend this, McCain brags the family takes two vacations together every year and Ms. McCain is the one who has always made that happen."
Two vacations per year? What a farce and fake! Nothing about this man is real. He has no compassion or empathy for anyone except himself. The only real thing emotion he is capable of is anger. He is famous for his anger.
His father and grandfather were both decorated Navy Admirals. He was given special privileges and extreme preferential treatment while he served in the Navy. He was a pilot but according to his colleagues he was a very bad pilot. He actually crashed three planes. There was a horrendous incident that happened on his aircraft carrier, the U.S.S. Forrestal, that killed 134 men. There has been a debate since the incident with some being convinced John McCain was responsible for this accident. Others are angry about anyone who would dare speak against a Naval officer and embarrass an entire branch of service.
a friend who I knew in his second career as the head of the Navy safety board was the weapons officer on the carrier at the time has nothing good to say about McCain.
Many witnesses have reported that McCain was guilty of a "wet start". When a pilot wants to be a show off, with a "wet start" his engine start creates a large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on start up. McCain did the "Wet Start". It was not an accident. The flames from the wet start torched off the launching of a powerful Zuni rocket on the plane behind him. The Zuni rockets were famous for having electrical problems. It shot across the carrier’s deck hitting other parked planes that were packing 1,000 high-explosive pound bombs. This caused the bombs to explode. The subsequent massive explosions, fire and destruction went several decks below and nearly sunk this major 82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier.
This stunt and aftermath caused the death of 134 sailors and blew off arms, legs and caused blindness and burns to another 161 sailors. McCain jumped from his plane, rolled across the flames and escaped. He watched the men dying and the burning from a closed circuit television on the ship. Sadly all of those lives were lost.
They had to take the ship off the battle line for 2 years when it had to be taken back to port for $76 million dollars of extensive repairs. That does not include the cost of replacing the airplanes or ammunition.
Other Navy pilots causing this type of death and destruction would have been arrested and would probably still be in prison. Why didn't this happened to John McCain?
McCain's grandfather was a famous FOUR STAR Navy admiral and his dad, at the time of the incident, was also a powerful illustrious FOUR STAR Navy admiral. McCain had graduated from the Naval Academy. Witnesses say the good ole boy Navy tradition went into high gear immediately. McCain was not even repremanded. When there is a cover-up, the soldier is usually simply assigned to another ship. McCain was quietly assigned to another ship. There is an ongoing debate about the incident to this day.
John McCain's lack of character was further demonstrated when he voted not to repeal Obamacare. He had run his 2016 Senatorial race under the banner he would LEAD the fight to repeal Obamacare. He hates Donald Trump so very much he gleefully held his thumb down for his vote rather than a thumbs up. He laughed afterwards and said, "Let's see Donald Trump save America now!"
What a horrible man. He stabbed his constituents and the citizens of America in the back. Liberal socialists now call him their hero.
McCain has recently discovered he has a brain tumor. I am genuinely sorry for anyone who has to face a health issue especially when it involves cancer. Thankfully for him the doctors have said it is curable. The fact that he now has a brain tumor does not change the horrendous things he has done in his life because of his extremely low flawed character.
If Senator McCain's own health care was dependent on the Obamacare he has continued to saddle the American people with, I guarantee he would not have voted thumbs-down. But because he married a wealthy heiress and has plenty of money to take care of his own health needs, he does not care.
What a guy...what a guy!
He's yet another example of why we need term limits across the board, as in any political office. Two terms max then go back to your job. Or since Congress likes to make laws, make one that makes career politics illegal. Yeah, that will happen.:gah::gah::gah: But we do need term limits badly. BTW, as a person I was never impressed with McCain. Can he call himself a good Christian? He might but he'd be lying. He's not even close. War hero? Not in my book. It's too bad he couldn't fly well enough to not get shot down and became a POW but there are other POW's that are much more deserving of the title "war hero" than he is. I'd never turn my back on the guy personally. I only wish I could help vote him out of office since Arizonan's can't seem to.:Shrug::Shrug::Shrug:
:gah::gah::gah: But we do need term limits badly. BTW, as a person I was never impressed with McCain. Can he call himself a good Christian? He might but he'd be lying. He's not even close. War hero? Not in my book. It's too bad he couldn't fly well enough to not get shot down and became a POW but there are other POW's that are much more deserving of the title "war hero" than he is. I'd never turn my back on the guy personally. I only wish I could help vote him out of office since Arizonan's can't seem to.:Shrug::Shrug::Shrug:
bikerbillone
3000+ Posts
Totally disappointed in John McCain from a political point of view. An obvious Republican in Name Only, an obstructionist to the conservative cause. I've read some horror stories about the man, not sure if they are true or not, some surely must be. You know, where there is smoke, etc.
McCain and Ted Kennedy - two POSs that were / are a disgrace.
Yes it does. I was initiated in 1989 and I still remember it like it was yesterday.
Jack Klarich
Gold Member
Senators get a clue, It was NEVER meant to be a Full time job
peteg59
Meme Master
Not defending McCain but he didn't cause the USS Forrestal fire.
There's plenty of actual flight deck camera footage showing how it really happened.
The live fully armed errant/uncontrolled Zuni rocket somehow "found" McCain's aircraft with him sitting in cockpit waiting to launch. He never got a chance, as the fire took over the flight deck and crippled the carrier into the shipyard for repair.
He may be guilty of many other moral failings in his life for which he will someday have to confront when he meets his maker, but the Forrestal fire does not hang on his shoulders.
There's plenty of actual flight deck camera footage showing how it really happened.
The live fully armed errant/uncontrolled Zuni rocket somehow "found" McCain's aircraft with him sitting in cockpit waiting to launch. He never got a chance, as the fire took over the flight deck and crippled the carrier into the shipyard for repair.
He may be guilty of many other moral failings in his life for which he will someday have to confront when he meets his maker, but the Forrestal fire does not hang on his shoulders.
peteg59
Meme Master
Straying off topic but, I thought they closed NAVSTA Chasn a few years back?
I served 2 years of "shore duty" there in the early 80's. That was one base where you wouldn't walk alone at night outside the gates...
I served 2 years of "shore duty" there in the early 80's. That was one base where you wouldn't walk alone at night outside the gates...
You’re right! It’s not Navsta Chasn anymore. It’s Joint Base Charleston. Naval Weapons Station and Nuclear Power School are down there along with a bunch of support units. They’ve got a decent exchange and such too. It’s about 145 miles from my house, so I only go down there once a year to harass the selectees.Straying off topic but, I thought they closed NAVSTA Chasn a few years back?
I served 2 years of "shore duty" there in the early 80's. That was one base where you wouldn't walk alone at night outside the gates...
Bubba
In 1972 I had two initiations, the first on the ship (on my actual advancement day) which of necessity was pretty mild since the ship was at sea chasing a carrier (plane guard). The second was at the Pearl Harbor CPO club on a Saturday, no less, and needless to say it was not so mild.
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