Stallion Alarm system?

[WildBillH]

I’m shopping for an alarm system for the Stallion.
Features 2 way remote… The more range the better.

Has anyone put an alarm system on a Stallion?
Any do’s or don’t?
What works what doesn’t?

 

[Road Runner]

No alarm on mine and dont want one. In fact, I would be happy if someone stole it and insurance paid off on it.
I think the supposedly built in alarm is not activated at TBMS, have no idea why not.

 

[WildBillH]

Sorry you feel that way... But i want to put on on mine.

The Stallion does not have a factory alarm system.
http://www.triketalk.com/forum/stallion-trikes/1381-stallion-story-day.html#post13810
http://www.triketalk.com/forum/stallion-trikes/1381-stallion-story-day.html#post13902

 

[silverdevil]

I have one that will page me if it goes off.

SCORPIO model SR-1600

it will go off if someone gets too close, if it is bumped, if you try to start it.

the key with the chip in it by FORD is NOT activated by TBMS, if you want a spare key just get a cheap one for a buck or 2 and not the special one for $80+, I did have one made and it works just fine. that is another reason I got the alarm and put it in

it is easy to install except the part where you can not start it, I had to get one of the engineers from TBMS to come up with how to wire it, they come up with the plan and I wired it in and it works fine(ignition disable/anti-hijack module)

it has half mile range

 

[WildBillH]

Sounds like a great system.

I caught the part about the key and no factory security system. That’s why I’m installing an alarm also.

I am running into the same problem you had with the ignition. I did not find the "Ranger" shop manual of much use. I sent an email to TMS requesting more detailed information on the wiring to install the alarm system. They have not replied back yet. Eventually and with enough educated guessing I'll figure it out.

I sent you a PM with more info.

 

[Gorilla]

Hey guys when you get the info on the wiring let the rst of us know please. I to am interested in putting one on my wife's Stallion and would like the heads up please.

 

[silverdevil]

I have all of the info from TBMS on how to wire up my alarm system, I can get you the info if you want it.
mine is 100% wired up.

 

[Gorilla]

silverdevil can you PM it to me or do you need an e-mail address?

 

[Mattel]

Silverdevel, Can you please PM me that info? I was thinking of getting just a very in-expensive one, and if I can get it to do the engine cut off that would be all I would need.

 

[silverdevil]

how to wire Stallion Alarm system to kill ignition

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/red-blue-silver-devil/connecterforALARM.jpg

the above is what I got from TMS.
if you look on page 38 in your Stallion manual you got with the trike you will see the fuse panel, there are 4 big plugs on the panel plus the fuses.
on the front side there are 3 big plugs/connectors
on the back left side there is 1 big plug, this is the one they talk about in the attachment, they call it the brown plug/connector, on either side of the lever that latches down the plug you will see brown plastic.
following the directions when you lift the lever and pull the brown plug/connector up you will find the blue wire with the green strip(not easy to see as noted in the attachment).
when you make sure you have pin 24 the blue wire with the green strip cut it and splice in the 2 wires from the alarm that are to disconnect the ignition and the fuel pump.
a cheap way to do this is to wire a simple on/off switch to the wire you just cut, hide the switch somewhere like in the trunk.

another way to kill the Stallion is to disconnect the battery, at most auto parts places and some wal-marts you can find a 300 amp black switch with big red key and 2 big connections on the back. I installed one and ran the battery ground to one side and the orginal ground wire to the other side. when I take the big red key out the whole stallion goes dead as battery is disconnected.
I installed it in the trunk and bought 2 battery cables, one to go from battery ground to new switch and one to go from the original ground cable to other switch connection.
the bad thing about disconnecting the battery is any thing with a memory will reset such as radio stations etc.

 

[WildBillH]

Here is a link to some of the wiring info i found for the Ford ranger. It did help some trying to locate the wire for the alarm systm. What i did find out is TMS spliced in some of their own colors in some locations. <br />
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<a href="http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/WiringByColor.html" target="_blank">Ford Ranger Wiring Diagrams at The Ranger Station</a>

 

[WildBillH]

I need some additional switches for the Stallion accessories. The switches used for the pedal adjustment and air ride suspension are marine grade electrical switches called ‘Surf n Turf Rocker’ made by Ancor. <br />
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Here is a link to them.<br />
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<a href="http://www.delcity.net/store/Non!illuminated-Surf-N-Turf-Rocker/p_788901.h_788936.a_1.t_1" target="_blank">Non-illuminated Surf N Turf Rocker</a><br />
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<img src="http://www.delcity.net/images/photos/switches/73471_tab.jpg" border="0" alt="" />

 

[Gorilla]

Thanks for the link in case we need some.

 

[WildBillH]

I thought I get back and post some info on the alarm I installed.<br />
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Well, I’ve had my alarm installed for a while now. This is what I’ve have done.<br />
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I purchased a Viper 5701 alarm system and a 508D proximity sensor on the Internet for less than $250.<br />
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I removed the seat and passenger back rest from the Stallion to get behind the seat. The alarm is mounted to a piece of ¾ inch plywood attached to the trunk wall. The plywood was cut to fit just above the gas tank and is about 12 inches long. I used flush mounted screws going from the trunk side into the plywood on the opposite side. The alarm brain is mounted on the plywood. Next to the alarm brain I mounted a small wire terminal block for connecting the hot wires for the alarm system and remote start. The siren is mounted behind the seat opposite the alarm brain.<br />
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Wiring:<br />
Basically I followed the Quick Reference Install Guide that came with the alarm system.<br />
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Electric trunk release:<br />
The alarm has an option for an electric trunk release. I discovered my Stallion already had the electric trunk latch but no wiring to it. I use a relay to activate the trunk latch and connected it to the alarm brain.

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Lights:<br />
Normally the parking lights are connected to the alarm system and flash when the alarm is activated or turned on or off. I tied this function into the turn signals. Now the turn signal front and rear will flash. I used two relays, one for the right and one for the left side.<br />
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Stallion doors, I had to wing this one.<br />
Because this alarm is normally use in a car, and a car has doors, I had to connect the alarm wires for the car doors to a on off switch for the car door open and car door closed. The switch is set to simulate the car door closed. In programming the alarm the switch is used to simulate the car door open. <br />
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Sensors:<br />
The alarm system has a built in shock sensor, no special wiring. The sensitivity is set relatively high because the alarm brain is mounted to the body. <br />
I wanted a proximity sensor to set the alarm off if anyone reached inside the Stallion and sound a warning to detour someone from attempting to grab anything inside the Stallion or on the seat. I mounted the Proximity sensor under the seat inside the fuse box.

I had to trim some plastic from the inside of the fuse box but it fit perfect. I put a small piece of foam on the proximity sensor to stop any movement inside the fuse box. It took a lot of trial and error tuning to adjust it for the alarm and warning sensitivity. <br />
I fabricated a bracket to mount a door contact switch and mounted it to the front hood hinge. The trunk is wired to a mercury switch which triggers an alarm if opened when the alarm is set. The same mercury switch also turns on the trunk light when the trunk opens.<br />
Not that I really need it but the alarm also has a temperature sensor built into the system. The Stallion can tell what the temperature is and if it is to hot or cold. <br />
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Remote Start<br />
I did not like doing this. I talked to an alarm shop to confirm the wiring for the remote start. I had to actually cut and extend wiring from the steering column to the alarm brain.

It worked, now I can remotely start the Stallion and let it warm up while walk to it and open the trunk and get my helmet. You can also surprise bystanders looking at the Stallion while watching them from a distance… fun. They normally step away and ask each other what did you do?

 

[WildBillH]

Alarm installation Summary<br />
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If I have to leave the trike any length of time I still use the cover in addition to the alarm. When it is not covered it attracts a lot of attention. The alarm by itself has been a very good deterrent, keeping sticky fingers off the merchandise. The Viper 5701 is a two way alarm system with an advertised range of 1 mile. I receive warning and alarms notices on the remote and I can check on it if I need to. The only disappointment is when I do get a warning or alarm it is about 10 seconds late. Unless I am watching the Stallion, rarely have I been able to see what happened unless they are just playing with the alarm. When I do that I just hit the remote start and they just scatter or they start looking for you because the have a lot of questions. The Alarm has incredible range not sure what the distance is but if you on foot it will take a while to get back to the trike. <br />
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Not related to the alarm I discovered if the emergency brake is not set, and the light switch is on, the headlight will stay on even with the key off.

I don’t care much for dead batteries. Anyway I don’t always set the emergency brake. I wired the light switch through a relay that requires the key to be on and the lights will work.<br />
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I made a bracket that fits in the seam on the left side of the dash that holds my Nuvi 1490 GPS. The GPS is attached with Velcro so I can remove it easily when I leave the Stallion and I use it in my truck so I don’t get lost and I can always find home. <br />
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The attachment is the wiring information for the 2008 Ford Ranger that closely matched the wire colors and pin numbers use on my 2009 Stallion. Handy for any Stallion owner. <br />
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The attachment is in the next post...

 

[WildBillH]

The original PDF document for the wiring on the 2008 Ford Ranger would not upload because it was to big. I saved it as a ZIP file and it is attached here.

 

[drvndbus]

my alarm isnt as complicated as that i just give my pit bull food and water and she does well lol

 

[Gorilla]

Bill thanks for the info.

 

[rich meyers]

I live just outside of Chicago and leave my stallion all over. What do you need all these alarm systems fore? Must live in a bad country.