Reverse acts like neutral

[mgwtrike]

I tried a search on this subject but didn't fine much help.

Once in a while (not always) when I push the reverse button in neutral and I increase the throttle to back up, the engine revs like it's in neutral and reverse does not work, even though the reverse light is on.............

If I shift through a couple gears, place in neutral, push the reverse button, reverse works...........

Once the reverse light started to flash.

I have a 2012 trike.

Any Ideas?

Some adjustment maybe?

 

[Gold Rush]

I tried a search on this subject but didn't fine much help.

Once in a while (not always) when I push the reverse button in neutral and I increase the throttle to back up, the engine revs like it's in neutral and reverse does not work, even though the reverse light is on.............

If I shift through a couple gears, place in neutral, push the reverse button, reverse works...........

Once the reverse light started to flash.

I have a 2012 trike.

Any Ideas?

Some adjustment maybe?

I sure hope I'm not falling for a late April Fools joke here.....

Mike GL1800 reverse is driven off the starter motor so reving the engine should have zero effect on the operation. Your Wing is a bit new to be feeling the effects of road dirt but that is the first place I'd look. Take the right engine side cover off and look toward the very back of the engine. You'll see a large spring. Get some spray silicone and wash that sucker off real good. My '06 use to mess up and that took care of it's ills...

Hope that helps.. :xszpv::xszpv:

 

[mgwtrike]

Mike GL1800 reverse is driven off the starter motor so reving the engine should have zero effect on the operation. :xszpv:

I realize how the reverse works off the starter, but when the reverse light is on it doesn't engage and

I can rev the engine like it's neutral.

Something isn't activating the starter when the reverse button is pushed

 

[Gold Rush]

I realize how the reverse works off the starter, but when the reverse light is on it doesn't engage and

I can rev the engine like it's neutral.

Something isn't activating the starter when the reverse button is pushed

HUMMMMM.... I never tried to rev the engine while doing a reverse so I can't speak to that.. Seems it could be normal though. I'd still try the silicone spray lube first. If that does not help I'd get my hands on a service manual and follow the troubleshooting procedures.

Please let us know how things work out. :xzqxz:

 

[JaysGone]

Once in awhile thankfully not often. Ive had to rock the trike in gear, engine off to get reverse to work. Might be some sort of solenoid on the starter that reverse uses??
Ive never looked at the shop manual to see whats what.
In reverse you can rev the engine all you want. It is in neutral technically when the button is in use.
Since reverse is driven off the starter motor by engaging the starter button.
Why would you twist the wick while in reverse anyway??

 

[mgwtrike]

Why would you twist the wick while in reverse anyway??

Ah.....To get the bike to backup when the "R" button is lite. :Shrug:

How else would get it to move in reverse ??????

My problem is: (if you read my original post) when pushing the reverse button in neutral,

the "R" button is lights up but it's not activating the reverse, I can rev the RPM's as is neutral.

How much clearer fellows can I get???

 

[Veritas44]

:xzqxz:

:laugh:

Late April Fools here????

 

[mgwtrike]

:xzqxz:

:laugh:

Late April Fools here????

I sure hope so.

 

[Mick]

OK just in case its not April fool,have you tried pressing the starter button while the reverse button is engaged and the motors running? Seeing as the starter button is the throttle for reverse on a wing while reverse is engaged.

 

[mgwtrike]

OK just in case its not April fool,have you tried pressing the starter button while the reverse button is engaged and the motors running? Seeing as the starter button is the throttle for reverse on a wing while reverse is engaged.

Yes I have.
Funny it works about 80% of the time or until I pull in the clutch and run through a series of gears then
come back to neutral push the reverse button it works............

 

[cavie]

Ah.....To get the bike to backup when the "R" button is lite. :Shrug:
How else would get it to move in reverse ??????

My problem is: (if you read my original post) when pushing the reverse button in neutral,
the "R" button is lights up but it's not activating the reverse, I can rev the RPM's as is neutral.

How much clearer fellows can I get???

I'm not a Goldwinger but from what I know about it is the starter motor moves the bike. NOT the motor. Motor will rev with no effect on bike reverse speed. That's the way I understand it. Sounds like your starter motor simply isn't going into gear. but I could be wrong on the matter. I'm a VTX'er

 

[Gorilla]

cavie, you are correct. All adding throttle while backing does is increase the output of the alternator providing more juice for the starter motor to back the bike up.

 

[cavie]

I love my Flitstone reverse. Just look at the lay of the land, slope of the parking lot, drainage. There is no need for reverse. If bad, push it back before you get on. No need for parking brake either. Turn the wheel, leave it in gear, use small 6" ball end bunge on handle bar lever.

 

[Mick]

If your starter button works most of the time,then occassionally doesnt,I would check your reverse cable adjustment.
http://gl1800riders.com/forums/showthread.php?197040-Reverse-System-Cable-Adjustment
If you have a factory manual I would check out that section. If you dont it would be worth your time and money to purchase one for future maintenance.

 

[FlaWinger48]

Using reverse

Start your engine using normal procedure and then place it in neutral and make sure the neutral light is on. Just let the engine idle, there is no need to rev it. Once you have engaged the reverse button, the neutral light will go out and the reverse light will come on. You then have to hold the starter button down to engage the reverse gear which works off of the starter motor. The throttle plays no role in the reverse operation so revving the engine or letting it idle has no bearing. One you stop pushing the starter button the trike will stop reversing. You then disengage the reverse button and the green neutral light should come on. Pull in the clutch, put it in gear and away you go.
FYI: Avoid prolonged use of the reverse feature and never use the reverse feature to "lock" your bike.
If you have further questions, please email me.
Fla Winger

 

[mhgoldwing]

I have noticed that when I start a cold engine and the RPM's are high, the reverse will sometimes not engage. If I wait a couple of minutes until the idle reduces RPM to 1500 or below the reverse works every time.

The throttle has no effect on reverse speed. It's an electrically driven motor and backs up at 1/2 mph no matter what you do. When you hit the "start" button to move in reverse it is a constant speed. Leave the throttle alone.

 

[dirtdobber]

Can't help with your issue but when I am backing out of the shop and just started the engine it is on a high idle which is normal but it backs up some better. I use ramps to work on the rear of the trike and it will back up much easier when on a high idle. The only thing I can think of is the battery has better voltage. It will back up the ramp but it is slow but when on high idle it backs up easy.
You are right the engine has no bearing with a electric reverse.
I push mine out of the shop most of the time. They are easy to push when on flat level ground.