Oil Change.......geez

Sully

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On my ride today I stopped at one of the local dealers ( HD ) to ask about the cost of an Oil Change. So my first question was, how much to change the engine oil only. $129.00 (Are you kidding me.)

Next question, who much for all the oil holes to be changed. $289.00 (Are you kidding me) Then he said after I made a few comments, wait till the 50,000 mile service and Oil change, $2800.00

After a few more comments from me he said....You should check on service cost before you buy something. :Shrug:

Guess I won't be doing any business with this Dealer.
 
On my ride today I stopped at one of the local dealers ( HD ) to ask about the cost of an Oil Change. So my first question was, how much to change the engine oil only. $129.00 (Are you kidding me.)

Next question, who much for all the oil holes to be changed. $289.00 (Are you kidding me) Then he said after I made a few comments, wait till the 50,000 mile service and Oil change, $2800.00

After a few more comments from me he said....You should check on service cost before you buy something. :Shrug:

Guess I won't be doing any business with this Dealer.

That's why as soon as I'm done with my service contract, I'm going to an indie place to do all my work. He does things at a little over half the cost, and the quality is better.
 
All kidding aside.....And also being the Devils Advocate;;;

If you or anyone could charge those mark ups...You would..!

Depends on what my overhead was.

That's what my indie mechanic bases his charges on. He's a certified Harley mechanic, does better work than they do, and charges half the price.

I call him "my" indie mechanic, but he hasn't worked on the iron horse yet. He worked on my Night Train that I traded for the TG. Charged me $205 for a all hole change and changing the rear tire (I supplied the tire).

He's going to be the one to work on the TG once all warranty and maintenance agreements end.
 
Depends on what my overhead was.

That's what my indie mechanic bases his charges on. He's a certified Harley mechanic, does better work than they do, and charges half the price.

I call him "my" indie mechanic, but he hasn't worked on the iron horse yet. He worked on my Night Train that I traded for the TG. Charged me $205 for a all hole change and changing the rear tire (I supplied the tire).

He's going to be the one to work on the TG once all warranty and maintenance agreements end.

The last oil change ..My dealer charged me...Oil 3 holes Syn oil, and filter and tax

171.65.....
 
The last oil change ..My dealer charged me...Oil 3 holes Syn oil, and filter and tax

171.65.....

My Harley dealer wants $400 for a 3 hole change. Of course that was the 1000 mile change. The 5000 mile was a little cheaper at $300. I bought the maintenance plan, so I paid for them in advance. I really need to rack up some more miles on it so I can break even on it. Already got a battery change and tire mount out of it, so I'm getting close.
 
My Harley dealer wants $400 for a 3 hole change. Of course that was the 1000 mile change. The 5000 mile was a little cheaper at $300. I bought the maintenance plan, so I paid for them in advance. I really need to rack up some more miles on it so I can break even on it. Already got a battery change and tire mount out of it, so I'm getting close.

The 1000 mile and the 5000 mile, Was labor free...Just pay for the oil and filter...When you buy a new Trike/Bike from them....And they don't charge the transport, and set up fee...
 
The 50k service includes the belt change. Labor intensive on a Trike. Also consider replacing the rear belt pulley, as I have seen them cogs wear out. It's only aluminum, and ya got a 1200 lb thing with a rubber band constantly wearing out.

Im sure others will disagree, but it's info I must pass on.
 
I just changed all three holes myself,had about $ 90 in oils and filter.So if they charge you $175 they are getting about an hr labor.4 quarts of Lucas $8 X 4=$32,one black filter $15,one quart Belray trans fluid $15,two quarts primary oil $30.So $175-$200 isn't out of line.When it comes to the 50,000 mile service i will shop around,in my younger years I would do it myself.
 
I owned 7 Ultras between 1992 and 2017. One service back in 1992 taught me to learn to do most of the services by myself. Harley labor prices are an absolute rip off but they charge it because the Harley owners keep paying it. Almost anyone can change out the fluids on a Harley Ultra if they want to. Most of the items on the 5000 mile service was check this and check that.

To put set backs on the handlebars on my Wing Trike cost $65.00. My buddy wanted to put set backs on his Triglide. $900.00 New handlebars, cables, labor, blah blah blah.
 
I guess I'll keep doing all 3 holes myself until I come to one of those service intervals where they want over $2,000 to complete. Then I will shop around and if I can't get it done for about half that then maybe it will be time to put this partially made American made bike on Craig's List and go buy a metric again.
 

To many this is GOLD Standard. To me this is baloney

I have replaced alot of belts that could have gone longer

Ya got to think back to the primitive belts, they were leather and they took a beating

Modern belts are WAY tougher JMO
 

A belt breaks on a bike your stranded.......A timing belt breaks on a car engine your stranded....And needing a new engine...
 
The 50k service includes the belt change. Labor intensive on a Trike. Also consider replacing the rear belt pulley, as I have seen them cogs wear out. It's only aluminum, and ya got a 1200 lb thing with a rubber band constantly wearing out.

Im sure others will disagree, but it's info I must pass on.

Huh?

Regular Service Intervals: 2015 Trike Models
ITEM SERVICED

PROCEDURE

1000 MI

1600 KM

5000 MI

8000 KM

10000 MI

16000 KM

15000 MI

24000 KM

20000 MI

32000 KM

25000 MI

40000 KM

30000 MI

48000 KM

35000 MI

56000 KM

40000 MI

64000 KM

45000 MI

72000 KM

50000 MI

80000 KM

NOTES

Electrical equipment and switches

Check operation

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

Front tire

Check pressure, inspect tread

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

1

Front brake fluid

Inspect sight glass

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

2, 3

Clutch (hydraulic operated)

Inspect sight

glass

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

2, 4

Reservoir cover screw: front brake and hydraulic clutch

Check torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Hand control fasteners

Check switch housing screw torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Check clutch handlebar clamp screw torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Check front brake handlebar clamp screw torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Steering head bearings

Disassemble, inspect, lubricate and adjust

X

X

5, 7

Hydraulic steering damper

Check for leaks smooth damper action, mounting fastener torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

8

Air cleaner

Inspect, service as required

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

9

Engine oil and filter

Replace

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 9

Engine coolant

Check freeze point, inspect for leaks

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

Replace coolant

Replace every 48,000 km (30000 mi)

5

Clean radiators

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

Primary chaincase lubricant

Replace

X

X

X

X

X

X

9

Transmission lubricant

Replace

X

X

X

9

Right front engine mount end cap screws

Check torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 10

Engine mount to front crankcase screws

Check torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Engine stabilizer link screw torque including bracket to head screws

Check torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 10

Oil lines and brake system

Inspect for leaks, contact or abrasion

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5

Fuel lines and fittings

Inspect for leaks, contact or abrasion

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5

Rear brake fluid

Inspect sight glass

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

2, 3

Brake pads and discs

Inspect for wear

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

Front brake and clutch master cylinder banjo bolts

Check torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Front circuit manifold banjo bolt (12 mm)

Check Torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Front caliper banjo bolts

Check Torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Rear master cylinder banjo bolt

Check Torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Rear caliper banjo bolt

Check Torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Rear circuit manifold banjo bolt (10 mm)

Check Torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6

Brake and clutch controls

Check, adjust and lubricate

with HARLEY LUBE

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

5

Parking brake

Inspect and adjust

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

5

Rear tires

Check pressure, inspect tread

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

1

Drive belt and sprockets

Inspect, adjust belt

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

5

Rear sprocket isolators

Inspect for wear

X

X

5

Rear lug nuts

Check torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 6, 11

Rear fork

Check pivot shaft nut torque

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 10

Air suspension

Check pressure, operation and leakage

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 5, 9

Exhaust system

Inspect for leaks, cracks, and loose or missing fasteners or exhaust shields

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

1, 9

Battery

Check battery and clean connections annually.

Battery terminal torque

Check annually

1

Clean and lubricate terminals

with ELECTRICAL CONTACT LUBRICANT

Perform annually

1

Spark plugs

Replace every two years or every 30,000 mi (48,000 km), whichever comes first.

Fuel door

Lubricate hinge and latch

with HARLEY LUBE

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

Front forks

Rebuild

X

5, 12

Fuel filter element

Replace every 160,000 km (100000 mi).

5

Road test

Verify component and system functions

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

X

13

NOTES:

1. Perform annually or at specified intervals, whichever comes first.

2. Replace DOT 4 hydraulic fluid and flush system every two years.

3. Brake fluid level will drop as brake pads wear.

4. Clutch fluid level will rise as clutch wears.

5. Should be performed by an authorized Harley-Davidson dealer, unless you have the proper tools, service data and are mechanically qualified.

6. Attempt to turn the fastener using a torque wrench set to the minimum torque specification for that fastener. If the fastener does not rotate, the fastener torque has been maintained. No further attention is necessary. If fastener moves, tighten to specification.

7. Disassemble, inspect, lubricate and adjust every 40,000 km (25000 mi).

8. Replace or have rebuilt at 80,000 km (50000 mi).

9. Perform maintenance more frequently in severe riding conditions such as extreme temperatures, dusty environments, mountainous or rough roads, long storage conditions, short runs, heavy stop/go traffic or poor fuel quality.

10. Attempt to turn the fastener using a torque wrench set to the minimum torque specification for that fastener. If the fastener does not rotate, the fastener torque has been maintained. No further attention is necessary. If the fastener moves, clean all locking material from the threaded hole. Replace the fastener with a new one or clean the original fastener threads and apply the appropriate locking agent (see appropriate procedure). Install fastener. Tighten to specification.

11. Always check lug nut torque within 805–1,610 km (500–1,000 mi) after wheel installation.

12. Disassemble, inspect, rebuild forks and replace fork oil every 80,000 km (50000 mi).

13. Check reverse operation at each service interva


Where did this come from? OOOPSSS The owners manual
 
I just looked at my owners manual on my 17 Tri-Glide, And let me tell you ,I hate looking at owners manuals, But you's guys made me look:shock:.....The 50 thousand service says ''check and adjust drive belt''......Does not say to change the drive belt.....
 
I just looked at my owners manual on my 17 Tri-Glide, And let me tell you ,I hate looking at owners manuals, But you's guys made me look:shock:.....The 50 thousand service says ''check and adjust drive belt''......Does not say to change the drive belt.....

Good Deal, Alot of cars and trucks are now non interference engines. In the old days NOT so much, in other words when a chain or belt breaks the valves would and did kiss and bend costing y'all lots of moolah If y'all want to spend the moolah send it to me LOL Bad JU JU happens to all that wait too long or neglect a noisy and not adjusted belt y'all ride safe and smart
 

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