need more power

I myself don't like to play with things... I go a step at a time, Then if something doesn't work i go back to the last thing i monkeyed with... Worked with me back in the 60's drag racing [3 class records 3 different tracks] So With my 11 T/G First i did the stage one, That brought the red line to 63 hundred RPM's And a little better MPG.. And the engine runs cooler.ThumbUp Then i did true duels cat out.. [Rush]..What a improvement ThumbUp But with the stock mufflers the sound was raspy :AGGHH:
So i drilled out the left side muffler. [The left muffler is baffled much more than the right]Drilling That just made the sound worst.. :AGGHH: So then i put on Rush slip-ons [175's] That killed my bottom and mid range Toque big time..:AGGHH:.. Was about to take them off when i came across DK's Thunder Toque's, Stuck them on and got all the bottom and mid range back and then someThumbUp..
Had i done every thing at once i would have gone nuts as to which part didn't work..
I get 36/38 MPG's I don't ride slow or fast i just ride...
 
Welcome to Trike Talk, glad to have you on board. Ride safe and have fun. Can't help very much with the HD stuff, but glad you joined the group.
 
welcome aboard. I see you state you have a 10 TRI. If it is stock the first thing you may want to do is change the front drive belt pulley to a 30 tooth from the stock 32 tooth. Harley did this on the 11 and later. It might make all the difference you maybe looking for. Do a search in the Harley section there is a how to do post there. If after doing that you want more I bet just a stage one with a tune will take care of you.
 
My poke at a little fun has been removed from this thread. It's sad when you can't have a little fun now and then. Most of my friend's are Harley drivers. On any given Sunday I ride with 30 or more of them and we get along just fine. The owner of this site needs to use a little less starch in his laundry. For the record, I have never seen a thread here on how to get more power out of a Honda. If I did I'd probably tell them to buy a Harley. Guess I'm gonna have to resort to PM's from now on.<br />
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Quote from FuzzyWuzhe <b>"</b><font color="#333333"><b>In summary ... a Harley is what it is, down payment on accessories ... you want more ..

means more $$$"</b> that right there is funny, I don't care who you are!.</font>
 
Cavie, couldn't agree more, I was gonna post a thought, but did not. Seems ya gotta walk on eggs in some forums because of political correctness and sensitivities. The gl1800riders has become one where ya must watch what you write and the mods will dump your post, give you grief, or unceremoniously just kick you off the the forum. 'Nough said, I'm done, I don't want to start anything and try to stay "politically correct".
 
Cavie -

I have been a reasonably active member here since (almost) day one - member #140 and I fully support the site owner and the overall management thereof. You can't argue with success...

HOWEVER, what could possibly be the reason for the removal of your OBVIOUSLY HUMOROUS post, goes beyond my ability to figure out. Especially when another poster immediately wants to put his choice of trike "up against" your choice of trike. That's OK, but humor isn't? Who cares what his trike "can do" vs. yours?

I was going to say more - but am now afraid I might offend someone. Isn't PC great...?
 
Welcome to TT!ThumbUp

Best thing that could be done to a 2009 or 2010 Tri Glide is the 32 tooth to 30 tooth sprocket change.


This will help a ton! If this is done and you still need more torque then I would suggest having the compensater sprocket changed to one tooth larger. At this elevation, little over 6000 ft, most of the triglide owners are increasing the sprocket by one tooth and it seems to help a lot.
 
Harleyrider who wants more power

I am a technical idiot who has a 2008 Harley Ultra Classic that had a Champion trike conversion done 2 years ago. My beautiful bike is now a power wimp with any headwind or up hills. Like I am lucky to get 65 mph in those conditions. It is a 96 engine with V & H slip on's. In purely laymen terms what can I do so that I can keep up with the pack on rides. I have heard everything from stage 1 to stage 3 kits.. Which one is going to get me to the power I want to keep up with the pack. :gah:
 
I am a technical idiot who has a 2008 Harley Ultra Classic that had a Champion trike conversion done 2 years ago. My beautiful bike is now a power wimp with any headwind or up hills. Like I am lucky to get 65 mph in those conditions. It is a 96 engine with V & H slip on's. In purely laymen terms what can I do so that I can keep up with the pack on rides. I have heard everything from stage 1 to stage 3 kits.. Which one is going to get me to the power I want to keep up with the pack. :gah:

I bet I can guess where the sensitivity is relative to this thread but there are certain brands/models that do not ever seem to have discussions and questions of this sort. Don't mean to give anyone offense but if you lack power and have a large engine, perhaps look around for some other platform to trike. If you are die hard HD, perhaps look at the Rushmore series which I suspect will run cooler and make better power if you can afford the newest gen of machines.
 
I am a technical idiot who has a 2008 Harley Ultra Classic that had a Champion trike conversion done 2 years ago. My beautiful bike is now a power wimp with any headwind or up hills. Like I am lucky to get 65 mph in those conditions. It is a 96 engine with V & H slip on's. In purely laymen terms what can I do so that I can keep up with the pack on rides. I have heard everything from stage 1 to stage 3 kits.. Which one is going to get me to the power I want to keep up with the pack. :gah:

wiredgeorge states what would be the easy answer for someone in your position. The 14 and newer TRI's really solve most of your issues. If you need to stay with what you got which is not bad, you can improve it by changing the drive gearing to 30 tooth trans sprocket and a 70 tooth rear sprocket. If I remember correctly Champion recommended the rear sprocket be a 70 when the kit was installed. The trans sprocket might be a 32 I'm not sure. Once you are at 30/70 gearing then install a good low end torque cam like the TTS-100. There are other cam brands similar, but I know that cam is good. Have a good tuner with tune added and you will be good to go. Parts for these suggestions would be just below a grand. This is (just my thoughts) Good luck
 
wiredgeorge states what would be the easy answer for someone in your position. The 14 and newer TRI's really solve most of your issues. If you need to stay with what you got which is not bad, you can improve it by changing the drive gearing to 30 tooth trans sprocket and a 70 tooth rear sprocket. If I remember correctly Champion recommended the rear sprocket be a 70 when the kit was installed. The trans sprocket might be a 32 I'm not sure. Once you are at 30/70 gearing then install a good low end torque cam like the TTS-100. There are other cam brands similar, but I know that cam is good. Have a good tuner with tune added and you will be good to go. Parts for these suggestions would be just below a grand. This is (just my thoughts) Good luck

I don't look at bikes like most... this is my 3rd trike within the past year. Wasn't satisfied with the first two. I also owned a FLHTCUI in this period and it was sold it for a 2013 CB1100A. I had traded a Bonneville America for the HD! I have to wiggle to afford the bikes/trikes I want and look for bargains and trades.

If I had the proverbial pot to wizz in, money wise, I would strongly consider a Rushmore based Tri-Glide. Won't wear a doo-rag but like a cruiser based bike/trike for long distance riding. The Wing is comfy and the power is smooth but even with floorboards and highway pegs (Ergo II), it sits like a kitchen chair.
 
I am a technical idiot who has a 2008 Harley Ultra Classic that had a Champion trike conversion done 2 years ago. My beautiful bike is now a power wimp with any headwind or up hills. Like I am lucky to get 65 mph in those conditions. It is a 96 engine with V & H slip on's. In purely laymen terms what can I do so that I can keep up with the pack on rides. I have heard everything from stage 1 to stage 3 kits.. Which one is going to get me to the power I want to keep up with the pack. :gah:

Bottom line...its your wallet and how many Andrew Jackson's your willing to spend.
 
Welcome to TT!ThumbUp

Best thing that could be done to a 2009 or 2010 Tri Glide is the 32 tooth to 30 tooth sprocket change.


Agree X2

add a set of TT-100 or S&S 557 cams, good head pipe, AC and tune for your next step

a season later (maybe sooner) start thinking about a 117 or 124 setup :D:D:D ...just kidding...just kidding...NO...NO...I am not kidding.

IMO...Do the the 32 tooth to 30 tooth sprocket change and if you find that is not enough...go BIG to start with, don't dilly dally around with the 103-107 big bore kits. The 103 won't give you what you want and the 107 most likely wont live very long on these heavy trikes.
 
2008 Harley/Champion conversion

So I went to my local Harley Dealer in Dallas and they were more than happy to try to get as much money out of me as possible. Surprise, Surprise:Shrug::Shrug:. Of course they suggested to go with the Screamin Eagle Stage 5 Tire Shredder 110 Kit, dyno tune and keep my Stage 1 kit and Vance and Hines already on the bike. Out the door $6,200!!!. To be honest I did not recently win the lottery:xzqxz:. Their second suggestion was Screamin Eagle 103 Big Bore Kit with S & S cams, dyno tune. Again a big $4200 out the door. Am I wrong in thinking these are both overkill?? Reading the thread here sound like I can get what I am looking for at a lot cheaper price. Thanks for all those who suggested a sprocket change to a 30. Should I just do that and put in a cam and dyno tune and be done with it. Don't wan't to keep going back to the money pit. Would be interested in suggestions that keep it in the budget range of $2,000. ;)
 
So I went to my local Harley Dealer in Dallas and they were more than happy to try to get as much money out of me as possible. Surprise, Surprise:Shrug::Shrug:. Of course they suggested to go with the Screamin Eagle Stage 5 Tire Shredder 110 Kit, dyno tune and keep my Stage 1 kit and Vance and Hines already on the bike. Out the door $6,200!!!. To be honest I did not recently win the lottery:xzqxz:. Their second suggestion was Screamin Eagle 103 Big Bore Kit with S & S cams, dyno tune. Again a big $4200 out the door. Am I wrong in thinking these are both overkill?? Reading the thread here sound like I can get what I am looking for at a lot cheaper price. Thanks for all those who suggested a sprocket change to a 30. Should I just do that and put in a cam and dyno tune and be done with it. Don't wan't to keep going back to the money pit. Would be interested in suggestions that keep it in the budget range of $2,000. ;)

The hard truth for more power = more money spent. You need to be realistic and accept its going to cost you if you choose to go down the rabbit hole. The first rule is know what you want for power before spending the money.

If your looking for a bump in what you got now, the cams, cam bearings, sprocket change, ( Possible clutch spring ) tuning module with a dyno tune is your going to be your cheapest costs.

Want bigger power, expect to spend more money.....

PS, This my advice take for what it is..... Stay away from most dealers. They only know how to swap parts.... not build engines for power
 
The hard truth for more power = more money spent. You need to be realistic and accept its going to cost you if you choose to go down the rabbit hole. The first rule is know what you want for power before spending the money. If your looking for a bump in what you got now, the cams, cam bearings, sprocket change, ( Possible clutch spring ) tuning module with a dyno tune is your going to be your cheapest costs. Want bigger power, expect to spend more money..... PS, This my advice take for what it is..... Stay away from most dealers. They only know how to swap parts.... not build engines for power

:Agree: I couldn't agree more, I learned the dealer wasn't my best source for power many years ago. The vast majority of them only know how to swap parts and flash a canned map, maybe if they have a dyno they'll have someone who actually knows how to tune. Very few dealers know how to put together a well thought out package to do what the customer ask, most just know the Screamin chicken catalog.
 

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