Gear position indicator 2014 Triglide

[Beorn of Ga]

My gear position indication stopped working. In the beginning it would show what gear I was in after a shift, then go out. I could pull in the shift lever and release it to make it come back on. Now it does not indicate shift position at any time. I'll take my trike to a dealer sometime soon and let you know what they find. Most likely a switch in the clutch lever assembly?

 

[Steve on 3]

Re: Gear position indicator 2014 Tryglide

Would think it would be down on the transmission. The fact that it was intermittent before might indicate a loose wire condition. Don't have my service manual in front of me or I'd look it p and tell you exactly where it is. Top of the tranny would be a good start though.

Good luck

Steve on 3

 

[Gorilla]

I believe the gear indicator gets its info from the ECM. How the ECM gets that info I'm not certain, but I bet the speedo sensor and tach might be involved. Might want to get the Electrical service manual it may help.

 

[DK Custom Products]

That is probably because the clutch is slipping on that heavy downshift.

I know after Devin did the Stage IV on his SG, when he was racing and slipping the clutch on take-off to maintain traction, the gear indicator was predictably inaccurate...only when slipping the clutch.

To the OP, warranty is a good thing.

Kevin

 

[scooterbum46]

The gear indicator is blank until the clutch lever is released - been that way on all three HD's I've owned ('12, '14 and '15). I'd suspect a flaky switch or maybe junk in the lever pivot area where the switch is. I believe it's the same switch that prevents starting in gear unless the clutch is pulled in - but haven't verified that with the service manual and am too lazy to go get it...

 

[JetDoc]

The gear indicator is blank until the clutch lever is released - (cut)

Yeah. I'm not happy about that. The shift indicator on my BMW K1200LT showed the gear as soon as the shift was made. I guess I'll get used to the way the H-D works, but it seems it would have been better to indicate gears when selected instead of finding out the hard way... AFTER you release the clutch on the wrong gear.

 

[DK Custom Products]

Yeah. I'm not happy about that. The shift indicator on my BMW K1200LT showed the gear as soon as the shift was made. I guess I'll get used to the way the H-D works, but it seems it would have been better to indicate gears when selected instead of finding out the hard way... AFTER you release the clutch on the wrong gear.

Yeah, for decades I rode without a gear indicator...never even missed it...never even thought of it.

Now that I have one...it really does not make sense to not know what gear you're in with the clutch in...sorta defeats the purpose. :laugh:

Kevin

 

[Beorn of Ga]

The problem went away!

Put on 500 additional mi +/- and shift indication worked like a charm.

Just for clarity regarding some of the comments. The clutch lever was out, and I didn't make any hard down shifts when the problem was occurring .

I would be cruising along and the indication would go out. If I pulled the clutch lever in and released it without shifting it would come back on.

O well, I hope the self cure keeps working.

 

[Gorilla]

The problem went away! Put on 500 additional mi +/- and shift indication worked like a charm. Just for clarity regarding some of the comments. The clutch lever was out, and I didn't make any hard down shifts when the problem was occurring . I would be cruising along and the indication would go out. If I pulled the clutch lever in and released it without shifting it would come back on. O well, I hope the self cure keeps working.

I think there be a loose connection somewhere.

 

[MB1953]

OK, so I think its time to reopen this thread.

After a year and 18000 miles and never had any issues with it... until today. 600 miles from home, in the mountains of NC and TN to ride the Dragon, Blue Ridge Parkway, etc. After getting caught in a torrential rain yesterday, I noticed that the gear indicator was not working. No big deal, I thought, I have ridden for years without one. Headed out this morning and hopped on I-40, kicked in the cruise... nothing! Evidently, with no indicator, the cruise thinks the clutch is in, and will not engage. The first local dealer I stopped into had never seen this, but a call to the dealer where I bought it sort of confirmed my suspicions, the service manager says he has seen this before, it is the clutch switch that is the problem. The first dealer I stopped at did not have one, and could not get one before I leave to head back home. Got a few more to check with, but it would be nicer to have cruise on a 600 mile ride home... OK so call me a weenie, but hand cramps are easier to make go away if you can flex every once in a while.

Anyone else had any experience (or thoughts) about this?

Thanks,

 

[scooterbum46]

Even with bikes with cruise, I keep a Cramp Buster on the throttle, they're cheap and available at most power sports dealers..

 

[waynerid1]

My gear position indication stopped working. In the beginning it would show what gear I was in after a shift, then go out. I could pull in the shift lever and release it to make it come back on. Now it does not indicate shift position at any time. I'll take my trike to a dealer sometime soon and let you know what they find. Most likely a switch in the clutch lever assembly?

my 2010 only shows when your in 6th gear didn't know any of them showed the other gears guess my 10 doen't show the others

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My gear position indication stopped working. In the beginning it would show what gear I was in after a shift, then go out. I could pull in the shift lever and release it to make it come back on. Now it does not indicate shift position at any time. I'll take my trike to a dealer sometime soon and let you know what they find. Most likely a switch in the clutch lever assembly?

my 2010 only shows when your in 6th gear didn't know any of them showed the other gears guess my 10 doen't show the others it would be nice if it did

 

[Sloufoot]

Logic: Cruse won't engage when the clutch is pulled
Gear indicator won't show when the clutch lever is pulled.
Only thing that ties these two things together is the clutch switch.

 

[azyjjk]

my 2010 only shows when your in 6th gear didn't know any of them showed the other gears guess my 10 doen't show the others.

Same here with my 2013. My wife's 2014 shows all the gears, so 2014 was when the change was made.

 

[scooterbum46]

Logic: Cruse won't engage when the clutch is pulled
Gear indicator won't show when the clutch lever is pulled.
Only thing that ties these two things together is the clutch switch.

Or the BCM, which both the brake and clutch switches talk to.. My buddy's '11 Heritage had a "stuck" brake light - I diagnosed front brake switch - Harley diagnosed BCM (300+ bucks, covered under an extended warranty he bought)..

 

[Sloufoot]

Or the BCM, which both the brake and clutch switches talk to.. My buddy's '11 Heritage had a "stuck" brake light - I diagnosed front brake switch - Harley diagnosed BCM (300+ bucks, covered under an extended warranty he bought)..

Yes, ,,, But the gear indicator will still show with either brake applied. It goes off when the clutch is pulled. Also the BCM can cause the cruse not to work. But does it blank out the gear indicator ? Most never notice it because the thing only comes on in 6th gear prior to the infotainment system.
Only other thing that could cause both is the gear sensor.

 

[MB1953]

Well, it looks like I am going to have an uphill battle getting this fixed... Yesterday morning, the indicator and cruise was mostly gone, but would come and go very intermittently. As the day wore on, it was more on than off, and by last night, it was back to normal. We'll see what it does today; I can just see the fight I am going to have with the dealer (who said he has never seen this before anyway) if I bring it in when it is working and have him order a left hand control module (which is evidently on backorder; no one has one) for a warranty fix that I can't show him. And no, I will not leave my bike with them for weeks for them to see if they can see it happen.

I have another couple of days and about 6-700 miles to go before I get it back home; we'll see how it goes.

 

[MB1953]

Here is where it gets strange. Since getting back home I have had several episodes. The whole way home, no issues. Drove it around on Monday, no issues. Drove it to work on Tuesday, no issues. It rained for about an hour Tuesday while the bike was in the parking lot. Driving home Tuesday, after a few miles, I noticed that the red LED in the speedo was on, According to the manual, this indicates a problem with the security system. Wednesday morning and evening, no red LED. Today it was back, and the cruise would not work. On the way home I stopped at the new Indie shop I found where I ordered my new EBC rear brake pads, and talked to him about it.

He had not heard anything about my issues, but suggested I try sealing up the connectors inside the fairing with dielectric grease.

Anyone have anything like this happening?

Thanks

 

[MB1953]

OK, so I think that I finally got this figured... at the indie shop, they suggested that I consider the brake light switches. A stuck switch would turn the red LED on the speedo on, and prevent the cruise from engaging. Sure enough, this morning when I started it up to go to work, I saw the brake lights were on. Working both brakes a few times turned them off, but on the way to work the red LED was back on, and sure enough, so were the brake lights. Talking to the guys at the shop, they indicated that failure of the hydraulic brake light switch was common, and in fact was the source of an HD recall notice a few years back. Pulling one of the leads off of the rear brake hydraulic switch turned off the brake lights, as well as the warning LED. It is a warranty issue, and a safety (no working brake lights) issue, and I have an appointment at the dealer next week to get it corrected. I still have the front brake switch operating, so I do have brake lights as long as I use the front brakes as well as the rear (I normally do). The disturbing thing about this is the dealer never once suggested the possibility if a failed switch.

I may be ranting now, but hopefully will possibly save someone some of the mental anguish I have gone through trying to track this down.

 

[Phu Cat]

Beorn, As you become more familiar with your bike, you're going to find yourself knowing what gear you are in by the sound of the engine and how fast you're moving down the street. In other words, eventually you'll forget that gear indicator is even there because you'll just "know". That's not going to happen in a couple of months, it takes time. But it will happen.

Enjoy the ride and many happy miles!

Phu Cat

 

[HDB0B]

Thanks for sharing the solution to your issue as it might help one of us in the future. ThumbUp

Bob orag:

 

[MB1953]

I will admit that I finally got good use out of buying the complete set of service manuals. After I remembered to RTFM I was able to read the diagnostic codes and sure enough there it was; ECM P0572 - Brake switch low and BCM B2223 - Rear brake switch shorted low.

I have to hand this one to the MOCO, this actually works if you learn to use it.

Now I just have to get the dealer to warranty the switch...