You might want to look up your State's Lemon Laws and see if they apply to your current trike? These problems have been all over the place in terms of who gets affected and who doesn't. I sort of took a leap of faith and only having one problem with my 2017 trike which was a front O2 sensor with no migration or other issues, I decided that maybe the MOCO is getting it together and I got a beautiful Scorched Orange/Black Denim 2019. I hope I didn't open a can of worms?
clutch recall
- Thread starter Uncle Bubba
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You might want to look up your State's Lemon Laws and see if they apply to your current trike? These problems have been all over the place in terms of who gets affected and who doesn't. I sort of took a leap of faith and only having one problem with my 2017 trike which was a front O2 sensor with no migration or other issues, I decided that maybe the MOCO is getting it together and I got a beautiful Scorched Orange/Black Denim 2019. I hope I didn't open a can of worms?
Like Jack said, they estimate 1 hour.
The service manual states you need to loosen the pipes from the cylinder heads to get the cover off, but most say you can just loosen the heat shields. I saw it done on the Fix My Hog website, but it was not on a trike, it was an M8 touring model.
If the cover comes off easy, the rest of the recall is a breeze.
I doubt it I've had a 14 Ultra Limited, 16 triglide and now a 18 triglide - all of them same clutch strength. start working on your muscles
Ray55
850+ Posts
I checked with my dealer last Friday, and was told by the service writers that the part were to be shipped by Harley on the 15 of November, So to check with them around Thanksgiving for repair dates.
Checked the website and mine is on recall. Checked with the dealer and they said parts would be in about Nov. 5. They said they didn't know how many they might get but put me on a list and said they would give me a call.
Jack Klarich
Gold Member
Some new info
OMB Control No.: 2127-0004
Part 573 Safety Recall Report
18V-734
The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573
Manufacturer Name :
Harley-Davidson Motor Company
Submission Date :
OCT 22, 2018
NHTSA Recall No. :
18V-734
Manufacturer Recall No. :
0173
Manufacturer Information :
Manufacturer Name :
Harley-Davidson Motor Company
Address :
3700 W. Juneau Avenue
Milwaukee WI 53201-0653
Company phone :
(414) 343-4056
Population :
Number of potentially involved :
177,636
Estimated percentage with defect :
1 %
Vehicle Information :
Vehicle 1 :
2017-2017 Harley-Davidson Touring, CVO Touring and Trike
Vehicle Type :
MOTORCYCLES
Body Style :
OTHER
Power Train :
GAS
Descriptive Information :
All 2017 Touring, CVO Touring and Trike model motorcycles are part of the recall
population. These models are equipped with a hydraulic clutch system with
secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131 and 37200131A.
The specific number of this make/model/model year is: 92744
Production Dates :
MAR 06, 2016
- JUN 17, 2017
VIN Range 1 :
Begin :
NR
End :
NR
Not sequential
Vehicle 2 :
2017-2017 Harley-Davidson Softail: FLSS, FLSTFBS, FXSE
Vehicle Type :
MOTORCYCLES
Body Style :
OTHER
Power Train :
GAS
Descriptive Information :
2017 Softail FLSS, FLSTFBS, FXSE model motorcycles are part of the recall
population. These models are equipped with a hydraulic clutch system with
secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131 and 37200131A.
The specific number of this make/model/model year is: 5115
Production Dates :
MAR 16, 2017
- JUN 28, 2018
VIN Range 1 :
Begin :
NR
End :
NR
Not sequential
Vehicle 3 :
2018-2018 Harley-Davidson Touring, CVO Touring, Trike
Vehicle Type :
MOTORCYCLES
Body Style :
OTHER
Power Train :
GAS
Descriptive Information :
All 2018 Touring, CVO Touring and Trike model motorcycles are part of the recall
population. These models are equipped with a hydraulic clutch system with
secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131 and 37200131A.
Page
2
Part 573 Safety Recall Report
18V-734
The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573
The specific number of this make/model/model year is: 79777
Production Dates :
MAR 06, 2017
- JUN 28, 2018
VIN Range 1 :
Begin :
NR
End :
NR
Not sequential
Description of Defect :
Description of the Defect :
The hydraulic clutch system with secondary clutch actuator part numbers
37200131 and 37200131A on the subject motorcycles may exhibit an internal
leak of fluid past the secondary clutch actuator piston/seal. If this leak
continues for an extended period, the clutch master cylinder reservoir could
lose enough fluid to expose the hydraulic clutch circuit to air, which may result
in the inability to generate enough lift to disengage the clutch.
FMVSS 1 :
NR
FMVSS 2 :
NR
Description of the Safety Risk :
If this condition remains undetected, it could lead to a loss of control of the
vehicle when started in gear, first shifted into gear, or coming to a stop.
Description of the Cause :
An internal leak of fluid past the secondary clutch actuator piston/seal.
Identification of Any Warning
that can Occur :
In vehicles in which this condition is present, the fluid level in the clutch master
cylinder may become low.
Supplier Identification :
Component Manufacturer
Name :
BREMBO NORTH AMERICA, INC
Address :
47765 Halyard
Plymouth MICHIGAN 48170
Country :
United States
Chronology :
See attached chronology.
Page
3
Part 573 Safety Recall Report
18V-734
The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573
Description of Remedy :
Description of Remedy Program :
Owners of affected motorcycles will be asked to arrange service with an
authorized Harley-Davidson dealer, who will confirm that the motorcycle
is covered by this recall. If covered, the dealer will install a new secondary
actuator piston assembly from the recall kit, P/N 91500093.
This service will be provided at no charge to the customer. Pursuant to 49
CFR577.11(e), Harley-Davidson requests that it be exempt from providing
a notification of a reimbursement plan. Any pre-notification product
failure would have been replaced under the manufacturer’s limited
warranty. Accordingly, no person would be eligible for reimbursement
pursuant to 573.13.
How Remedy Component Differs
from Recalled Component :
The secondary actuator piston assembly in the recall kit (P/N 91500093)
has a lip seal with a different material. Additionally, the surface finish of
the piston assembly has been changed.
Identify How/When Recall Condition
was Corrected in Production :
The updated secondary actuator piston seal assembly was introduced at
the start of model year 2019 production.
Recall Schedule :
Description of Recall Schedule :
Harley-Davidson will notify the dealer network on or about 10/22/2018.
Owner notification letters will be sent beginning on or about
11/05/2018.
Planned Dealer Notification Date :
OCT 22, 2018
-
OCT 22, 2018
Planned Owner Notification Date :
NOV 05, 2018
-
NOV 09, 2018
* NR - Not Reported
OMB Control No.: 2127-0004
Part 573 Safety Recall Report
18V-734
The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573
Manufacturer Name :
Harley-Davidson Motor Company
Submission Date :
OCT 22, 2018
NHTSA Recall No. :
18V-734
Manufacturer Recall No. :
0173
Manufacturer Information :
Manufacturer Name :
Harley-Davidson Motor Company
Address :
3700 W. Juneau Avenue
Milwaukee WI 53201-0653
Company phone :
(414) 343-4056
Population :
Number of potentially involved :
177,636
Estimated percentage with defect :
1 %
Vehicle Information :
Vehicle 1 :
2017-2017 Harley-Davidson Touring, CVO Touring and Trike
Vehicle Type :
MOTORCYCLES
Body Style :
OTHER
Power Train :
GAS
Descriptive Information :
All 2017 Touring, CVO Touring and Trike model motorcycles are part of the recall
population. These models are equipped with a hydraulic clutch system with
secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131 and 37200131A.
The specific number of this make/model/model year is: 92744
Production Dates :
MAR 06, 2016
- JUN 17, 2017
VIN Range 1 :
Begin :
NR
End :
NR
Not sequential
Vehicle 2 :
2017-2017 Harley-Davidson Softail: FLSS, FLSTFBS, FXSE
Vehicle Type :
MOTORCYCLES
Body Style :
OTHER
Power Train :
GAS
Descriptive Information :
2017 Softail FLSS, FLSTFBS, FXSE model motorcycles are part of the recall
population. These models are equipped with a hydraulic clutch system with
secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131 and 37200131A.
The specific number of this make/model/model year is: 5115
Production Dates :
MAR 16, 2017
- JUN 28, 2018
VIN Range 1 :
Begin :
NR
End :
NR
Not sequential
Vehicle 3 :
2018-2018 Harley-Davidson Touring, CVO Touring, Trike
Vehicle Type :
MOTORCYCLES
Body Style :
OTHER
Power Train :
GAS
Descriptive Information :
All 2018 Touring, CVO Touring and Trike model motorcycles are part of the recall
population. These models are equipped with a hydraulic clutch system with
secondary clutch actuator part numbers 37200131 and 37200131A.
Page
2
Part 573 Safety Recall Report
18V-734
The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573
The specific number of this make/model/model year is: 79777
Production Dates :
MAR 06, 2017
- JUN 28, 2018
VIN Range 1 :
Begin :
NR
End :
NR
Not sequential
Description of Defect :
Description of the Defect :
The hydraulic clutch system with secondary clutch actuator part numbers
37200131 and 37200131A on the subject motorcycles may exhibit an internal
leak of fluid past the secondary clutch actuator piston/seal. If this leak
continues for an extended period, the clutch master cylinder reservoir could
lose enough fluid to expose the hydraulic clutch circuit to air, which may result
in the inability to generate enough lift to disengage the clutch.
FMVSS 1 :
NR
FMVSS 2 :
NR
Description of the Safety Risk :
If this condition remains undetected, it could lead to a loss of control of the
vehicle when started in gear, first shifted into gear, or coming to a stop.
Description of the Cause :
An internal leak of fluid past the secondary clutch actuator piston/seal.
Identification of Any Warning
that can Occur :
In vehicles in which this condition is present, the fluid level in the clutch master
cylinder may become low.
Supplier Identification :
Component Manufacturer
Name :
BREMBO NORTH AMERICA, INC
Address :
47765 Halyard
Plymouth MICHIGAN 48170
Country :
United States
Chronology :
See attached chronology.
Page
3
Part 573 Safety Recall Report
18V-734
The information contained in this report was submitted pursuant to 49 CFR §573
Description of Remedy :
Description of Remedy Program :
Owners of affected motorcycles will be asked to arrange service with an
authorized Harley-Davidson dealer, who will confirm that the motorcycle
is covered by this recall. If covered, the dealer will install a new secondary
actuator piston assembly from the recall kit, P/N 91500093.
This service will be provided at no charge to the customer. Pursuant to 49
CFR577.11(e), Harley-Davidson requests that it be exempt from providing
a notification of a reimbursement plan. Any pre-notification product
failure would have been replaced under the manufacturer’s limited
warranty. Accordingly, no person would be eligible for reimbursement
pursuant to 573.13.
How Remedy Component Differs
from Recalled Component :
The secondary actuator piston assembly in the recall kit (P/N 91500093)
has a lip seal with a different material. Additionally, the surface finish of
the piston assembly has been changed.
Identify How/When Recall Condition
was Corrected in Production :
The updated secondary actuator piston seal assembly was introduced at
the start of model year 2019 production.
Recall Schedule :
Description of Recall Schedule :
Harley-Davidson will notify the dealer network on or about 10/22/2018.
Owner notification letters will be sent beginning on or about
11/05/2018.
Planned Dealer Notification Date :
OCT 22, 2018
-
OCT 22, 2018
Planned Owner Notification Date :
NOV 05, 2018
-
NOV 09, 2018
* NR - Not Reported
Tri Glide recall
I have 2018 Tri Glide clutch is on recall. But also per dealer fluid from transmission leaked over into the primary also with the clutch recall. and a primary leak at the same time. The dealer didn't think it was a big deal about losing fluid from transmission. Has anyone else had a similar problem? Bike has been at the shop for two weeks.
I have 2018 Tri Glide clutch is on recall. But also per dealer fluid from transmission leaked over into the primary also with the clutch recall. and a primary leak at the same time. The dealer didn't think it was a big deal about losing fluid from transmission. Has anyone else had a similar problem? Bike has been at the shop for two weeks.
Jack Klarich
Gold Member
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Steven welcome to Trike-Talk.........:wave4:
As far as the Transmission to the primary, Yes quite a few have that problem...And thats why i got rid of my 17 Tri-Glide .......
My 17 is having oil migration,the dealers job is to act like its all normal.Mine has had the so called fix installed but the weather has turned crappy and i dought if i will get 1000 miles on it before spring but at least it has been logged with HD.
My favorite HD tech. John Maxwell, just released a short video explaining the problem with the clutch & discusses the recall.
Jack Klarich
Gold Member
This recall tells me HD is rolling the dice thinking this new part (no doubt already on the 19 models) will fix the 17-18 bikes
What about the 14-17 bikes and now we see some Softails showing up with hydraulic clutches
Hang on here we go again
My clutch is working soooo good I hope they don't muck it up with this new part
I already intend to bleed this new unit every year, unlike the MOCO wanting it done every 2 years
What about the 14-17 bikes and now we see some Softails showing up with hydraulic clutches
Hang on here we go again
My clutch is working soooo good I hope they don't muck it up with this new part
I already intend to bleed this new unit every year, unlike the MOCO wanting it done every 2 years
Got the clutch recall done today and so far seems just fine . . . but then it was fine before also. Yet don't want to take a chance of having a problem with a known potential failure. And oh yeah, had the left hand switch pack replaced, again. But this time I got the newest part, 71500135B and a new clutch lever, 36700148A as detailed in Service Bulletin M1468, 03-12-2018. Think I had the first replacement just before these new parts were introduced. Hopefully no more problems starting in gear - I hope, lol.
just had a conversation with one of my 'go to' dealers today. The parts have been coming in - about 6 - 8 per week and in a few weeks they will be in the mode of bring it in and wait for HD to send them the part. Amazing considering how many bikes are in FL.
On the good side, they had someone ride up from down south and after 2 1/2 hours the guys bike get the problem. They didn't have any of the recall replacement parts left, so they changed the fluid and bled it. The guy made it all the way back home with no a single problem. One more thing they said - since the average operating temp is under 100 now that the cooler it is outside the more this will not happen. Also if it is hot out only go about 2 hours and let the bike cool down before continuing.
Last note they offered - if HD didn't move the CC back in the exhaust this might not be happening now. So the bottom line - change the head pipes and problem occurance reduced considerably
On the good side, they had someone ride up from down south and after 2 1/2 hours the guys bike get the problem. They didn't have any of the recall replacement parts left, so they changed the fluid and bled it. The guy made it all the way back home with no a single problem. One more thing they said - since the average operating temp is under 100 now that the cooler it is outside the more this will not happen. Also if it is hot out only go about 2 hours and let the bike cool down before continuing.
Last note they offered - if HD didn't move the CC back in the exhaust this might not be happening now. So the bottom line - change the head pipes and problem occurance reduced considerably
So did you get yours fixed?
I rode back to St. Louis from southern California in 115° heat last year & rode in several 90-100 degree days & mine has not done it. I think its a bad batch of seals in the slave cylinder. I really hope it's not a heat issue .
I rode back to St. Louis from southern California in 115° heat last year & rode in several 90-100 degree days & mine has not done it. I think its a bad batch of seals in the slave cylinder. I really hope it's not a heat issue .
I haven't yet, now it's whether or not they have the parts in since it's riding season right now. My personal opinion is that MOCO QA now sucks (pretty much ever since they stupidly opened the York plant) and take quantity over quality. The get the same part from a couple different sources and this creats certain issues in certain bikes. Just like the breach of fluid issue some talk about, one of my dealers has never seen it. Then I factor in - break in, riding style, and of course with the trikes - experience.
Some of us have been riding for decades and have been on 2 wheels, where a vast majority of trike owners are new and this is their new thing. I see it all the time at bikeweek.
Mine has had 0 issues, she runs perfect and I suspect that even though I will eventually get this recall taken care of, that I really don't have to. Either way, the only bike I never truly loved was my 14 Ultra Limited. The rest have been fantastic and lacked (knock on wood) any issues. Hopefully I'll be able to get a Road King back under my ass sometime in the next year so I have that when mama doesn't get on back.
I also got my recall letter yesterday for my 2018 Tri Glide and the 2017 Limited I traded in. I was put on "The List" last week for the repairs when they get enough parts.
The dealer still has my 2017 in the lot.
The dealer still has my 2017 in the lot.
Same here with the 17 i traded in.....They can't sell it till all the problems with it are resolved.....
I received my notice a couple weeks ago. My dealership is changing hands currently, so I'm going to wait till sometime in December. I live in Iowa, so it's friggin cold right now. What the hell happened to fall? It's been down to 13* last couple of nights. Come on summer. Just dreaming. Jerry
Talked to my local dealer said his first batch was 4 parts.Since i will be taking it in for a extended warranty inspection in spring i will have them do the recall then.
Trampas
1000+ Posts
When this thread came out I checked to see if mine was on recall or not, it wasn't at the time, now it is, I got my letter from harley davidson motor company saying it is, will have to check with dealer since it is winter here and my bike is on the lift and put away for the winter.
All for now Trampas
All for now Trampas
Trampas
1000+ Posts
When this thread came out I checked to see if mine was on recall or not, it wasn't at the time, now it is, I got my letter from harley davidson motor company saying it is, will have to check with dealer since it is winter here and my bike is on the lift and put away for the winter
All for now Trampas
All for now Trampas
2017's & 18's. What year do you have?
Clutch recall performed on a Tri-Glide.
Here is a link to John Maxwell performing the recall on an awesome looking TG.
Here is a link to John Maxwell performing the recall on an awesome looking TG.
Trampas
1000+ Posts
It is a 2018 triglide in black, if I remember right you posted on my post with the pics of it, being your freewheeler is black also,
can't say for sure but I think you did, it was posted on 10-16-18 with my pics, oh well, hind sight now and quite a few threads back.All for now Trampas
It is a 2018 triglide in black, if I remember right you posted on my post with the pics of it, being your freewheeler is black also,
All for now Trampas
The reason I ask is your profile says you have a 2016 trike.
Trampas
1000+ Posts
Got my recall letter from HD on Friday. Called my dealer; svc manager said I will add you to my list and call you when we get the parts in to schedule the service. They move a lot of trikes, so I may have a wait... have not noticed any issues with the clutch so far, though.
- Thread starter
- #59
Mine is going to the dealer this Saturday. I don't know if they have the parts, I'm getting in between ice and snow storms.
Uncle Bubba
Uncle Bubba
I know it's not fun, but I urge everyone that's still riding prior to the fix, to take 2 minutes & pop the master cylinder cover off & check the fluid level.
There are increased reports of trouble while operating. Be careful out there.
There are increased reports of trouble while operating. Be careful out there.
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