2019 Triglide DCT

[leonard]

Has anybody with the 2019 had any codes come up. My trike has thrown b2285 and b2287 both historical more than once. It is in being checked out. Harley has no idea what b2287 is. Just wondering if any one else has thrown a code and what Harley did. It has something to do with the rear brake and the abs.

 

[rhino 2]

Has anybody with the 2019 had any codes come up. My trike has thrown b2285 and b2287 both historical more than once. It is in being checked out. Harley has no idea what b2287 is. Just wondering if any one else has thrown a code and what Harley did. It has something to do with the rear brake and the abs.

Looks like...........

Low battery voltage..........:Shrug:.....[b2285]

 

[Jack Klarich]

2019 Trike Service Manual Supp lists DTC B2285 as Rear Brake Configuration (Fault Condition) Solution: No Vehicle Power or Lost Communication Diagnostics.

The HD dealer surely has a 2019 manual laying around some where or the Digital Tech scanner tool they all use would read the code and give a definition

I got nuthin on your second code

WE are seeing the 18 but mostly 19 models with newer electronic controls spit out some codes that are not on any list as of yet

 

[DK Custom Products]

Hey Leonard,

Good talking to you on the phone yesterday.

For everyone else...while talking with Leonard yesterday I went out and checked my 2019 TG dtc's. Had b2285, but not b2287 historical on mine also. I've done absolutely nothing to the drivetrain, suspension or brakes to mine yet. Less than 500 miles on it. Strange for it to throw that code.

I cleared it, rode home...part of the way with the TCS on and part of the way with the TCS off. No codes when I got home.

Will be checking it periodically and post any info/patterns I observe.

Kevin

 

[leonard]

2019 dtc

great talking to you too kevin.

 

[hddocfl]

No codes ever on my 2019 tri, and I check frequently.

 

[Rogue1]

Has anybody with the 2019 had any codes come up. My trike has thrown b2285 and b2287 both historical more than once. It is in being checked out. Harley has no idea what b2287 is. Just wondering if any one else has thrown a code and what Harley did. It has something to do with the rear brake and the abs.

I get b2285 all the time. Dealer checked it out and found nothing wrong. Battery good. If I keep it on battery tender I don't get the code. My opinion is it is a sensitive battery sensor. At the slightest drop in battery voltage it kicks out the code.

 

[rhino 2]

Hey Leonard,

Good talking to you on the phone yesterday.

For everyone else...while talking with Leonard yesterday I went out and checked my 2019 TG dtc's. Had b2285, but not b2287 historical on mine also. I've done absolutely nothing to the drivetrain, suspension or brakes to mine yet. Less than 500 miles on it. Strange for it to throw that code.

I cleared it, rode home...part of the way with the TCS on and part of the way with the TCS off. No codes when I got home.

Will be checking it periodically and post any info/patterns I observe.

Kevin

See post # 2 in this thread........

 

[Jack Klarich]

2019 Trike Service Manual Supp lists DTC B2285 as Rear Brake Configuration (Fault Condition) Solution: No Vehicle Power or Lost Communication Diagnostics.

 

[MDO]

I ruled out the possibility of a trade up to a 2019 because of the brake changes, I like the suspension & 114 upgrades, but was happy with the manually linked brakes & 6 piston front wheel calipers on the earlier models.

I don't mind technolog at all, it just seemed to me that electronically linking the brakes, coupled with adding ABS & traction control overcomplicates things IMO.

When I was having trouble with re-occurring ECM-P0522 trouble codes, it was explained to me that with the change to the M8, on start up, the 1st thing that many of the sensors check is voltage and they will throw a code for low voltage, even though the sensor is checking something else. I don't put my battery tender on if the trike is just sitting for a couple days.

The service manager said he see's a lot of errant codes with the M8's that could be minor voltage fluctuations or over-sensitive sensors.

In the case of P0522, if the oil pressure was really low, you should also get the "check engine" light and I never did.

I was only getting the code every 5-6 months & always after the trike sat for a few days. I have not had one in awhile & I quit worrying about it.

 

[DK Custom Products]

Just an update...

I've checked for codes 3 times since I last posted. Twice there were none, and once was the same code again-b2285

I do not know what I did differently, if anything, that triggered the code.

I thought with the talk of overly sensitive to low voltage, that maybe a generally low battery would trigger the code. So I did a bunch of backing up in reverse, really putting a load on the battery, but no code after that.

Will keep trying to identify a pattern.

Kevin

 

[leonard]

2019 dtc

I picked up my bike from harley they ordered some cable to run a test harley wants, will have to take it back when they receive it. When i got home i had thrown the b2285h. I cleared the code and rode about 100 miles checked and it didn'd throw any code this time. My problem is it may be a low voltage sensor, just ignore it? But what if it is really somthing wrong with the brake system at one time and no brakes. It has to be fixed so they quit throwing codes. The dealer had two 2019 trikes he checked in there shop both threw the same code.

 

[ISP-FL]

Standing by. Keep us posted.

 

[leonard]

2019 dtc

The dealer got the cable in to run a system check, took it in Friday should here back today hopefully. Tech said Harley has a software problem and if they don't come up with a fix they can't make there own fix? will find out what happens later.

 

[MDO]

The dealer got the cable in to run a system check, took it in Friday should here back today hopefully. Tech said Harley has a software problem and if they don't come up with a fix they can't make there own fix? will find out what happens later.

As I stated in post #11, it has been happening since the new M8 came out.

I would document when you get 1 & what it is & I would let the dealer document it. Like I said, I was worried when I 1st. started getting them(P0522), but after talking to the dealer, I quit worrying about it. I got 3 over 18 months.

Apparently, most the sensors, on startup, check the voltage first thing. I know on the 17's, many people replaced the oil pressure sensor & it cleared the problem on some, not all.

I do know 1 thing, if the dealer says it's the 1st they have heard about it...they are lying.

Keep us posted.

 

[Jack Klarich]

Watching this one closely

I find it hard to believe HD would release a bunch of trikes with this kind of software problem, but then again they have done some pretty stupid things in the past

It escapes me they would have a system designed with no clear way of trouble shooting or fixes?

 

[MDO]

Watching this one closely

I find it hard to believe HD would release a bunch of trikes with this kind of software problem, but then again they have done some pretty stupid things in the past

It escapes me they would have a system designed with no clear way of trouble shooting or fixes?

Jack, have you gotten any more codes after changing your oil pressure sensor?

 

[ShapeShifter]

I suspect the hardware and sensors for the Braking and Traction Control Systems were acquired by no less than two outside sources, therefore the software would likely have come from the same number of sources.

Can be quite a challenge to get different systems and software working in harmony, along with their own new improvements for the first trike TC M8 114's. Lots of opportunities for bugs, glitches and other software abnormalities to surface over usage. Can be frustrating, time consuming and costly for manufacturers to resolve, but can be equally frustrating, and sometimes costly for owners to contend with too.

 

[Jack Klarich]

Jack, have you gotten any more codes after changing your oil pressure sensor?

Yes, I am assuming there is a problem in the way the can bus reports to the ECM

I dunno if this new low voltage system is a winner or a loser for us

 

[DK Custom Products]

I checked last week and had the code again. Cleared it then.

Just went out and checked again and it was back. Cleared it again.

Don't know the rhyme or reason. When I've tried to trigger it, no success...when I ride just normally, sometimes it shows up, sometimes not.

Kevin

 

[Jack Klarich]

I am going to guess HD is having problems with the soft ware drivers for this NEW to Harley 2019 system

I am also betting the problem with the first M8 can bus systems errors for the oil sender is equal to the same type of problem

JMO

 

[MDO]

After 8 months, I just had my ECM-P0522 code come back. It is probably because I said I quit worrying about it,

I still have 6 weeks of warranty, so I think I'll let my dealer check it out.

Here is an update for my situation...I'm bringing my FW into the dealer next Sat. & they will check it out.

 

[leonard]

2019 dtc

I pick up my trike this morning. The test they did were sent to the harley tech and received, they have sent them to the engineering section to find a cure i guess. So i will ride till they come up with something.If anybody is throwing codes it should be taken in to get it on there radar most people will not know they never check the codes. Basically Harley doesn't know what is going on, I threw a code that they still don't what it is they said phantom code. All the codes that keep coming are historic codes, don't know when they originally came on probably at the factory.

 

[Gold Nugget]

How do you check for them?

do they just appear?

Thanks.............

edit: I was under the assumption, the CK eng light would come on like on all the vehicle's I've worked on.

 

[Jack Klarich]

How do you check for them?

do they just appear?

Thanks.............

You need to run a diagnostics on your bike

See the link here

https://dgcustomcycle.com/tech/harley-diagnostic-codes-04-present/

 

[Gold Nugget]

Did a quick google search, "press in on the trigger/trip an hold. turn Ing to on. dia comes up in the mileage window, let off the trigger/trip switch, Than use it to cycle through the ECM,,,BCM,,,SPDO,,,ABS,,,RADIO..

OK, I also had codes:

ECM; N

BCM; Y CODE: 62206h & 62285h

SPDO; Y CODE: u0184h

ABS; N

RADIO; N

cleared the codes, to see if they come back. now to google the code numbers........

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[MDO]

Did a quick google search, "press in on the trip an hold. turn Ing to on. dia comes up in the mileage window, let off the trip switch, Than use it to cycle through the ECM,,,BCM,,,SPDO,,,ABS,,,RADIO..

OK, I also had codes:

ECM; N

BCM; Y CODE: 62206h & 62285h

SPDO; Y CODE: u0184h

ABS; N

RADIO; N

cleared the codes, to see if they come back. now to google the code numbers........

Thanks for the heads up.

You have a 2019 under full factory warranty... take it to the dealer that you got it from & have them check it for you.

 

[MDO]

How do you check for them?

do they just appear?

Thanks.............

It's in your owners manual, along with other good to know information.

 

[Gold Nugget]

It's in your owners manual, along with other good to know information.

I guess that page is missing in my book.:Shrug:

Yes, I'm going to call the dealer, I just try to investigate all the issues to better educate myself. When the warranty is up, its up to me to have the knowledge to fix-it. :Coffee:

I have the codes on file, they were cleared. Calling the dealer to find out what they are. Will keep checking to see if they reappear. I'm not used to the trike's 2019 electronics. My auto/truck experience is:, some codes will clear themselves after so many starts and or running temp cycles.

Edit: Update, Called HD service with the codes, "62206h & 62285h", (no clue what they are) he could not find them, because no letter leading the code #, the u0184,(was Lost communication to Radio) that I found in my search, and he confirmed. end result, he said clear and see if they return.

I ask if they were having any issues with the 2019's throwing codes and he said NO.