Rear Brakes on my 2020 Tri Glide

[PTR]

My wife bought me by request low dust brake pads for my 2020 Tri Glide. This weekend I went to install them and the rear calipers are different than anything I have seen on line. The front pads were correct but the rear not so much. It took me a while to figure out how to put them back together with the old pads because the piston has moved out a little during the disassembly. I did not want to force anything and cause damage and for a while i didn't think I was going to get it back together without some instruction. I ended up realizing that if i pushed the piston in at the same time as I screwed it clockwise it would go in.

Does anyone know when they changed the caliper design on the rear calipers?

 

[PTR]

This is the rear pad.

 

[ultrafxr]

Peter, I don't know what changed on the rear calipers but I can tell you I had a similar problem several years ago. I was installing new brake pads on my wife's Infiniti and had no problem with the front but could not get the pistons on the rear calipers to retract. Finally I went to Auto Zone where I purchased the pads and they informed me that I needed a special tool (which they loaned me) to get the pistons to retract. As best I recall it turned and pushed on the pistons which is what you did to get them to retract. Perhaps that same or similar tool is required on your TG - or at least make it easier to do.

 

[rhino 2]

Peter, I don't know what changed on the rear calipers but I can tell you I had a similar problem several years ago. I was installing new brake pads on my wife's Infiniti and had no problem with the front but could not get the pistons on the rear calipers to retract. Finally I went to Auto Zone where I purchased the pads and they informed me that I needed a special tool (which they loaned me) to get the pistons to retract. As best I recall it turned and pushed on the pistons which is what you did to get them to retract. Perhaps that same or similar tool is required on your TG - or at least make it easier to do.

My VW.....GTi......1976 was the same, They had to be screwed in and pressed down...

The tool i used i had bought at a outdoor flea market years earlier..At the time i had no idea what it was for, Was told it was for a steam engine but for 25 cents i bought it back then i bought tons of tools and sooner or later i would always find a use for them, Those were the days of real flea markets..Not Chinese junk..

 

[Jack Klarich]

This piston actuator is similar to what the auto market has been using for years on rear calipers. A tool set like this

is used to turn the piston back in while under slight pressure. You can rent this set @ many automotive parts stores. I bought my set many years ago. Subaru had this type of caliper on some early front axles

 

[Jack Klarich]

This piston actuator is similar to what the auto market has been using for years on rear calipers. A tool set like this

is used to turn the piston back in while under slight pressure. You can rent this set @ many automotive parts stores. I bought my set many years ago. Subaru had this type of caliper on some early front axles

 

[PTR]

This piston actuator is similar to what the auto market has been using for years on rear calipers. A tool set like this

is used to turn the piston back in while under slight pressure. You can rent this set @ many automotive parts stores. I bought my set many years ago. Subaru had this type of caliper on some early front axles

I understand how rear brakes with emergency brakes work, have worked on them for years as a tech. My question is when did they change. I want to put low dust pads on and can't find anything aftermarket. If I go to aftermarket sites for rear pads they are wrong. If you look online for remove and install info they show a different style that you take a rubber boot off the back of the caliper and loosen a big nut. They use a different pad also.

 

[PTR]

Peter, I don't know what changed on the rear calipers but I can tell you I had a similar problem several years ago. I was installing new brake pads on my wife's Infiniti and had no problem with the front but could not get the pistons on the rear calipers to retract. Finally I went to Auto Zone where I purchased the pads and they informed me that I needed a special tool (which they loaned me) to get the pistons to retract. As best I recall it turned and pushed on the pistons which is what you did to get them to retract. Perhaps that same or similar tool is required on your TG - or at least make it easier to do.

Jerry,

I have seen quite a few different designs of rear brakes calipers that also are used for the emergency brake. The problem is they all are just different enough that not resetting the piston right could get very expensive. Sometimes you could think you did it right and find out when you hit the brakes that something inside the caliper was damaged and the brake won't release. I have seen techs do it. My trike has 50 miles on it so I really don't want to buy a new caliper for it. I am quite sure their is a hefty Harley tax on one.

 

[Jack Klarich]

Jerry,

I have seen quite a few different designs of rear brakes calipers that also are used for the emergency brake. The problem is they all are just different enough that not resetting the piston right could get very expensive. Sometimes you could think you did it right and find out when you hit the brakes that something inside the caliper was damaged and the brake won't release. I have seen techs do it. My trike has 50 miles on it so I really don't want to buy a new caliper for it. I am quite sure their is a hefty Harley tax on one.

Very good point. There are a few models of rear actuator pistons that turn in counter clock wise in the automotive world. If not done correctly you will end up ruining a caliper and or best if you can say that you will have a leaker

 

[Jack Klarich]

I understand how rear brakes with emergency brakes work, have worked on them for years as a tech. My question is when did they change. I want to put low dust pads on and can't find anything aftermarket. If I go to aftermarket sites for rear pads they are wrong. If you look online for remove and install info they show a different style that you take a rubber boot off the back of the caliper and loosen a big nut. They use a different pad also.

2019 rear pads are different from 15-18 models as are the rear calipers, I dunno about the 2020 models

 

[PTR]

2019 rear pads are different from 15-18 models as are the rear calipers, I dunno about the 2020 models

I did a live chat with JP Cycles last night and they kept coming up with the wrong rear pads. I hate brake dust, I will wait until Daytona bike week and check out the vendors for the right ones.

I did find out that on the right side you have to spin the piston clockwise and push in hard while turning. I don't know if the left side turns the sameway. When I find the pads I will post the results. Somewhere in my toolbox I have the piston tool. Just need to figure out where.

 

[PTR]

Peter, I don't know what changed on the rear calipers but I can tell you I had a similar problem several years ago. I was installing new brake pads on my wife's Infiniti and had no problem with the front but could not get the pistons on the rear calipers to retract. Finally I went to Auto Zone where I purchased the pads and they informed me that I needed a special tool (which they loaned me) to get the pistons to retract. As best I recall it turned and pushed on the pistons which is what you did to get them to retract. Perhaps that same or similar tool is required on your TG - or at least make it easier to do.

This is the conversation with JP

rear low dust brake pads for 2020 cvo tri glide

Chat By Chat (Christopher B.) (02/06/2020 07:25 PM) Hi, my name is Christopher B.. One moment while I review your question. Christopher B.: Unfortunately I do not have info on your bike at this time. Christopher B.: I am going to check parts fiche rocco: how about a 2019 Christopher B.: The issue is the CVO they tend to do drastic changes, I am searching for it. It may take a moment rocco: ok Christopher B.: ok brembo brakes all around Christopher B.: I would go with EBC double H sintered, no dust rocco: part number? Christopher B.: https://www.jpcycles.com/product/244-646/ebc-double-h-sintered-front-rear-brake-pads Fits both front and rear Christopher B.: Is there anything else I might help you with? rocco: nope, rears are different than front Christopher B.: Only the one comes up for both. Christopher B.: You might have to go through Harley Christopher B.: Is there anything else I might help you with? rocco: I bought the ones you recommended, they a very different than what's on the back. they do fit the front. rocco: to much dust to stay oem. thanks for looking, Christopher B.: sure thing Christopher B.: Thank you for chatting with me at J&P Cycles. Have a great day! 'rocco' disconnected ('Concluded by Agent').

 

[Jack Klarich]

I did a live chat with JP Cycles last night and they kept coming up with the wrong rear pads. I hate brake dust, I will wait until Daytona bike week and check out the vendors for the right ones.

I did find out that on the right side you have to spin the piston clockwise and push in hard while turning. I don't know if the left side turns the sameway. When I find the pads I will post the results. Somewhere in my toolbox I have the piston tool. Just need to figure out where.

Very nice Snap On Stack and end cabs ya got there

 

[rhino 2]

I did find out that on the right side you have to spin the piston clockwise and push in hard while turning. I don't know if the left side turns the sameway. When I find the pads I will post the results. Somewhere in my toolbox I have the piston tool. Just need to figure out where.

Pete....I guarantee it will be in the last place you look...........

 

[PTR]

Very nice Snap On Stack and end cabs ya got there

Thanks

 

[PTR]

Pete....I guarantee it will be in the last place you look...........

I don't turn many wrenches anymore but you still have to have a place to keep them all. I just bought the box a few months ago and can't find anything I am looking for. I had the same set up but a little smaller and had a great plan of organization when I moved them to the new box. That plan fell apart after the third draw. I kept my old box for the house and that's a mess too.

 

[PTR]

I sent an email to EBC and this was there reply, I did order a set and will post if they fit.

"We currently don’t list 2020 Harley models or anything for the CVO range.



The pad in question though is FA631HH"



Kind regards

Gareth Preston

Technical Advisor Motorcycle

01604 583344

 

[rhino 2]

I don't turn many wrenches anymore but you still have to have a place to keep them all. I just bought the box a few months ago and can't find anything I am looking for. I had the same set up but a little smaller and had a great plan of organization when I moved them to the new box. That plan fell apart after the third draw. I kept my old box for the house and that's a mess too.

I have two Sons, And a Grandson who find it mandatory to spred my tools to the four corners of my barn....:xzqxz:....

 

[PTR]

I have two Sons, And a Grandson who find it mandatory to spred my tools to the four corners of my barn....:xzqxz:....

Bob, It is sad to say but you are very lucky to have sons and a grandson that even have the interest in anything that requires the use of tools. Most kids and young adults don't have any interest in fixing anything or using their hands.

 

[jonfjr]

I did a live chat with JP Cycles last night and they kept coming up with the wrong rear pads. I hate brake dust, I will wait until Daytona bike week and check out the vendors for the right ones.

I did find out that on the right side you have to spin the piston clockwise and push in hard while turning. I don't know if the left side turns the sameway. When I find the pads I will post the results. Somewhere in my toolbox I have the piston tool. Just need to figure out where.

Sweet setup.

 

[PTR]

I received the set of FA631HH pads today. They look right. I hope to be rear dut free by the weekend.

 

[ultrafxr]

I received the set of FA631HH pads today. They look right. I hope to be rear dut free by the weekend.

Great. Looking forward to the outcome.

 

[PosseRider]

I received the set of FA631HH pads today. They look right. I hope to be rear dut free by the weekend.

Hope they work. Showed up on Amazon,but when I looked up "fit" says will not fit my 2020 Tri

 

[ultrafxr]

Hope they work. Showed up on Amazon,but when I looked up "fit" says will not fit my 2020 Tri

Ditto, and I checked several sites including EBC. Very interested to know if these work for you Peter.

 

[PTR]

Hope they work. Showed up on Amazon,but when I looked up "fit" says will not fit my 2020 Tri

Ditto, and I checked several sites including EBC. Very interested to know if these work for you Peter.

I will be putting them on this weekend. I will let everyone know. They look the same.

 

[PTR]

Great. Looking forward to the outcome.

Hope they work. Showed up on Amazon,but when I looked up "fit" says will not fit my 2020 Tri

I installed the rear brakes this morning. They fit just like the OEM and I can't see any difference in them except the pad material. I will see about the dust over time.

Install notes:

THIS IS FOR REPLACEMENT OF NEW LOW MILEAGE PADS. IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PAD WEAR YOU WILL HAVE TO PUSH THE CALIPER PISTON IN WHILE TURN IT COUNTERCLOCKWISE TO RESET PISTON FOR E-BRAKE.

1 - Chalk front wheel and loosen lug nuts with park brake on.

2 - Jack up rear from jacking point USE A SAFETY STAND, and remove wheel. DO NOT LEAVE E-BRAKE ON OR APPLY FRONT BRAKES UNTIL COMPLETE REAR BRAKE JOB IS OVER

3 - Remove the pad pin holding clip and loosen bolt with a T-30 before removing caliper.

4 - Remove the two bolts holding caliper bracket to axle starting with the top one. they use a 9/16th socket.

5 - Remove loosened pad bolt from step 3

6 - Remove outer pad then inner pad. During all this process do not pull on parking brake arm on the back of caliper. This will push the caliper piston out and cause unnecessary work.

7 - Take vibration plates off of old pads and install on new pads. This will stop vibration and noise.

8 - Install pad retaining pin and finger tighten with T30 until it stops then install retaining clip.

9 - Install caliper back on axle. Start with lower bolt first then upper bolt. Tighten ALL loosened or removed bolts to OEM torque spec for you bike. Do not forget to tighten the pad retaining pin.

10 - Clean off brake dust from rear caliper and wheel. Install wheel and torque to OEM spec.

11 - Complete the other side, Pump rear brake pedal, TEST BRAKES AT LOW SPEED. If pad manufacturer has a pad break in procedure follow it.

12 - GO RIDING. BE SAFE

 

[ultrafxr]

That's great news Peter . . . and a great write up. Thanks. Looking forward to your report on how they perform and most importantly the issue of brake dust. I've only got about 250 miles on my new 2020 and now that I'm getting better from my knee replacement surgery I plan to put on my ProAction 14" shocks and install a set of RJS wheel discs - https://rjsoriginals.com/FREEWHEELER/Tri-Glide Wheel Discs.htm - that should help keep brake dust off the wheels. May want to go with the pads also.

 

[PTR]

That's great news Peter . . . and a great write up. Thanks. Looking forward to your report on how they perform and most importantly the issue of brake dust. I've only got about 250 miles on my new 2020 and now that I'm getting better from my knee replacement surgery I plan to put on my ProAction 14" shocks and install a set of RJS wheel discs - https://rjsoriginals.com/FREEWHEELER/Tri-Glide Wheel Discs.htm - that should help keep brake dust off the wheels. May want to go with the pads also.

I had 72 miles on mine when I changed them. I don't know how the RJS wheel discs would look on the CVO TG with the open area between spokes.

I just looked and the RJS wheel discs will only fit the standard 15" wheel. I have 17" on the CVO stock.

 

[PTR]

That's great news Peter . . . and a great write up. Thanks. Looking forward to your report on how they perform and most importantly the issue of brake dust. I've only got about 250 miles on my new 2020 and now that I'm getting better from my knee replacement surgery I plan to put on my ProAction 14" shocks and install a set of RJS wheel discs - https://rjsoriginals.com/FREEWHEELER/Tri-Glide Wheel Discs.htm - that should help keep brake dust off the wheels. May want to go with the pads also.

I put 120 miles on the EBC brakes and not a hint of dust so far. wheels are as clean as when i cleaned them after the install.

 

[PosseRider]

That's great news Peter . . . and a great write up. Thanks. Looking forward to your report on how they perform and most importantly the issue of brake dust. I've only got about 250 miles on my new 2020 and now that I'm getting better from my knee replacement surgery I plan to put on my ProAction 14" shocks and install a set of RJS wheel discs - https://rjsoriginals.com/FREEWHEELER/Tri-Glide Wheel Discs.htm - that should help keep brake dust off the wheels. May want to go with the pads also.

Have had those wheel discs ever since the 16 was new.. They keep the outside looking very clean. Take the wheel off & the dust on the inside will scare ya to death. I put EBS shoes on shortly after Tri had a couple thousand on it. Not a whole lot better. Just fair. Had to power wash the dust off . Now that Lyndall has started making pads for a trike. I will go back to them. Had them on 2 wheelers years ago. Best pad ever in rain & min. dust the "Gold" series. Someone told me 19's were listed on Lyndall site so maybe 20 will be there.