SE 255 Cams
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I think that they are standard on the 110 engine. Should improve torque. I would do breather and pipes in addition to cams.
I have them in my '08 Ultra/Champion with a 103" kit, Heavy Breather and Rinehart True Duals. They provide a marked increase in torque between 2500 and 5000 rpm and 6th gear is a lot more useable. They are not "high lift" cams but are "long duration" which means they deliver more fuel by keeping the intake valves open longer. As previously said, you will want to do the better flowing air filter and pipes to get the full potential from the cams which in turn will require some sort of fuel management system to allow the cams to deliver the additional fuel.
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I have done the pipes, air, got rid of the cat and have a tuner but would like a little more. Just getting rid of the stuff I listed made a world of difference. I'm sure I will have to do the adjustable push rods also.
What did it do to your gas mileage? I'm planning on pulling a trailer and was just wondering.
Bruce
What did it do to your gas mileage? I'm planning on pulling a trailer and was just wondering.
Bruce
Don't know that you will need the adjustable rods as the lift of the cams doesn't change from stock.....just duration. I don't know how much the cams affected gas mileage. I had all the engine mods done while it was being triked to compensate for the additional weight. I was getting about 38mpg as a stock two wheeler and now get between 32-34mpg with my current set-up. I'm considering installing the Thunder Max TBW ECU next month because I'm still running a little lean with the SERT an I like the idea of the constant auto tune feature of the T-max. A little pricey but once installed I don't have to run to the tuner every time I make an engine/exhaust modification.
I have them in my 08 and it pulls like a truck but the fuel mileage is about the same as dogs... It was redone when I got it before i triked it is still a little fresh in the engine department but still runs very good...It is also a 103 with the heavy breather and pipes... I like dog am very pleased with it but plan on a V/H fuel pack in the near future...
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My 103 has S&S 510G cams with adjustable rods. The adjustable rods were used so I did not have to remove the heads for the mod. The cams are great. 104 ft lbs of torque at 3700 rpms. The torque comes on at 78 ft lbs at 1600 rpms and climbs up from there almost straight line to the peak reading.
With just installing the SE255 cams he does not need adjustable push rods.
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I was looking at the 557's but I'm a little leary about moving parts inside the cams ( just me I guess ) I called a dealer the other day and they said they would not put in the 255's without doing the adjustable pushrods -- he said they could have it done in one day and the price would be $950- seems a little high but I'm not real familiar with the pricing down here in florida -- guess I'll have to wait till I get back to NY next month and check them out there.
The reason the dealer wants to install adjustable pushrods is it makes it easier on them as well as selling you the pushrods. It's not that much more work to remove the rockers and keep your pushrods. I've went both routes. Ended up with one piece pushrods. A lot less to worry about. $900 seems steep to me.
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I would like to get them installed while I'm down here in florida, next month up north all the shops will be busy getting ready for the spring rush. I'm going to call around down here to some independant shops and see what they are charging.
$950.00 is WAY too much!!! My dealer did all my engine work when I had the 103" install and cams. Tried to find my bill for the exact price but have misplaced it.....but as I recall the complete job was around $1100.00. I didn't buy the complete SE 103" Big Bore Kit because he bored my stock cylinders himself and saved me the cost of new cylinders. I'm no mechanic by far but would think a cam change would be about a three hour job or less. If labor was $100.00 an hour you should be able to have the job done for under $500.00 including the price of the cams.
Have you checked with Rossiter's in Sarasota or Bradenton (Manatee River)?
I've almost forgotten what it's like to be in warm, sunny weather! :Shrug:
This guy is about 82 miles from you and he is top notch, give him a call and talk to him.
http://www.docsperformancetuning.com/
We did the Wood 555 cams on my wife's trike. It pulls really good. Also did Fulsac ceramic pipes, big sucker stage one air, adj push rods and TTS. Happy so far with a few thousand miles on the build. Mileage is lousy (30 - 35), but not much worse than before the mods.
Who did the TTS tune? Might be some mileage improvement if the tune is on the rich side.
I can't tell you who did the tune. Then I'd have to rat out the Wiz. Woops! Actually, he did a great job. It runs great. I'll talk to him about any room for improvements on the richness.
I'd like to hear about the Thundermax once it is installed by Greydog. Thinking of putting one on myself but they are pricey
I have Andrews 54 in mine, and runs great. Talk to Fullsac performance about the difference. They don't think SE 255 is a good cam for the trike.
I bought the T-max and had to send it back. I thought I had Rinehart pipes but found they are Vance&Hines. The wide band oxy sensors are about an inch longer than stock and the bung on my rear pipe is too close to the top of the transmission for the sensor to clear. Was going to be too much more expense and bother to continue with installing it.
If you decide to go with the T-max call Zipper's Performance and speak with Pete. He's really knowledgeable about the product and can help you out. Although I sent the T-max back I think I would have liked the performance had I had pipes that the sensors would fit.
Well the tune should be pretty good then because the Wiz knows his stuff. When I think about it 30 - 35 mpg isn't real terrible considering the trike is heavy and an aerodynamic brick. Last summer I was averaging in the mid 30's with my 10 and the SE255 cams, with a best of 38 mpg when running a nice easy 60 mph in 5th gear. I'm going to be interested in what mine does mileage wise once it gets off the dyno.
Depending on how fuel quality is whether or not the SE255 is good or bad for the Trike. I put 7,000 miles on my 2010 Triglide with SE255 cams in it last year, over all the performance was quite good. In my neck of the woods I'm able to get 93 octane gas so pinging wasn't an issue. The only time I run into any pining was out west in SD and the gas quality was marginal at best. I decided since I do travel and fuel quality can become and issue I should make a change. This past winter I installed the Woods TW555 and switched the transmission output sprocket from a 32 tooth to a 30 tooth on both mine and my dads Trikes. I've gotten a few miles on both of them while tuning them so they can be ridden before they are put on a dyno for the final tune. The biggest thing these changes seem to bring is the cam doesn't fall off at 4,300 RPM like the SE255 cam did, maybe more will become apparent once I can put more miles on it. The SE255 is great for bottom end punch, my wife can attest to that when I picked the front end up twice while she was on board.
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I still haven't got the cams in yet, one of the local shops up here also suggested the andrews -- heading to myrtle beach on the 10th of may so I'll wait till I get back to put something in -- my foot clutch and jockey shift finally came in so I'll install that when I get back to. (this retirement thing is tough, don't have enough time to do anything. Should have retired 10 years ago!):Bug2:
I had the 255's in my 07Ultra/CSC along with a 103 kit. They worked well for me. Even with my gear change 4300 RPM would have put me up around 90mph,:innocent: so I didn't worry too much about them falling off at that rpm:wtg: No experience with the Woods cams.
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