Hannigan Motorsports Information Desk

[FRR]

Thank you folks for the clarification. Glad I brought it up.

 

[Hocky]

Hii, Still looking for the serial code on a Hannigan Conversion. Can you give me a picture of its location. Should I be able to see it with the Trike on the ground. Thanks, Ron

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

Hocky,
Per Jim Gooch our Chief Trike Tech, Serial #'s were not "plated" or stamped onto the Trike Frames until 2010.
From what I remember, you said your Trike was produced and converted in 2009.

However, if you can email or PM the initial Converting Dealership's name (and easier with the original Owner's last name) we can then look the Serial Number up and will PM the Number to you. We have Records on all Conversions produced back to January 1, 2007.
I apologize for the inconvenience and extra effort on your part.

The Serial #'s were only used for internal tracking and Warranty purposes and are not required on Trike Conversion Kits. Conversions are considered "Accessories" by the majority of States and the Feds. A couple of States now (since 2010?) require Serial #'s (such as Illinois) to be assigned and "plated" to the Conversion Kits as well as a Manufacturer's Statement of Origin. Those are the States that require Owners to re-Title, Register, and Plate post-conversion as a "Trike" as well.

In 2010 Model/Production year, we began stamping the Serial #'s onto an aluminum Plate and riveting the Plates onto the Trike Frames on the right (as sitting on the Trike) side. They can be seen through the right Wheel. Obviously a flashlight helps with that.

Hope this clears it all up for you and others who may be interested and we thank you for the chance to post the clarification here on Trike Talk.

 

[fred786]

Fred786, we took our long trip recently and we may have had about the same weight including pulling a trailer. We didn't ever bottom out once and it rode very nice. For me, I wouldn't have changed anything on the suspension. Sometimes I anticipated hearing an "ouch" from the backseat when crossing rough areas like I used to on 2 wheels, but didn't happen.
Keith

Thanks Keith appreciate the comments! Fred ThumbUp

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

Copied to here from a Thread in the Honda Section.

Question:

Tire pressures?

Hi all, Still working out the best tire pressures on my 95' Wing Hannigan conversion. 4 1/2 Steer Lite, Front Tire is Mich Pilot 63H(Rear), Rear Tire Kumho Solus KR21.
Thanks for your experience. Hocky

Response:

Re: Tire pressures?

Hocky & All HMS Trike Owners/Riders,
For your and any HMS Trike regardless of Make & Model Bike converted:

40-41 p.s.i. Front-Rear Compound Bias Ply Tire.
28 p.s.i. Rears.​

The above is applicable to All HMS Trikes.
Of course, other Manufacturers may differ.

Hope the above definitively answers this common question of many Owners/Riders.

 

[Bones158]

Update on Speed Bleeders for Hannigan Venture. The OEM Brembo Caliper is SB1010S. M10 X 1.0.

SB7100S- Front Brakes X 2

SB8125 - Clutch

SB1010S - Rear Brakes X 2 > Hannigan

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

ThumbUp Thanks much Bones :clapping:

 

[FRR]

I know this question might be tough to answer based on a variety of factors, but for a rider who rides primarily country with very little city and often coasts to stop lights, how many miles can one expect to get on the brake pads that come with your new Wing kit. Any range you may want to guess?

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

Far too subjective as well as too many variables involved to be able to answer with an acceptable degree of accuracy.
This one is best left to those better suited, knowledgeable, and experienced to answer;
Your fellow Hannigan Owner/Operators ThumbUp



On another note,
Happy, Safe, & Enjoyable Labor Day to All !
Ride and Enjoy :GL1800:

 

[ROAD DOG]

What rake is on the gl1800 180 front end kit, does it come with a fork brace , what air pressure do you run in the tire ??? I happen to see a gl1800 at a show over the weekend & reading WHEELS wright up, I think I need one of these, LAST BUT NOT LEAST DO YOU GIVE A 10% DISCOUNT ON THESE FRONT ENDS TO TRIKE TALK MEMBERS

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

What rake is on the gl1800 180 front end kit, does it come with a fork brace , what air pressure do you run in the tire ??? I happen to see a gl1800 at a show over the weekend & reading WHEELS wright up, I think I need one of these, LAST BUT NOT LEAST DO YOU GIVE A 10% DISCOUNT ON THESE FRONT ENDS TO TRIKE TALK MEMBERS

Thanks for the question Road Dog ThumbUp

The HMS 180 Wide Front Conversion utilizes a 5.25* increased Steering Angle Triple Tree.
The Fork Brace is an Option ($199) to the Assembly should you or anyone desire one.
The p.s.i. should be kept at 41.

No "Discount" unfortunately but,
Let me know when you place your Order and I'll be sure to include a Collector Edition Hannigan T-Shirt (*estimated Market Value of $50,000) at no additional expense.
*bad inside joke .
*Valid while limited supplies last.

Thanks again for the Post and the questions.
Seriously, let me know when you order one and what size Shirt you want.

 

[ROAD DOG]

Thanks for the question Road Dog ThumbUp

The HMS 180 Wide Front Conversion utilizes a 5.25* increased Steering Angle Triple Tree.
The Fork Brace is an Option ($199) to the Assembly should you or anyone desire one.
The p.s.i. should be kept at 41.

No "Discount" unfortunately but,
Let me know when you place your Order and I'll be sure to include a Collector Edition Hannigan T-Shirt (*estimated Market Value of $50,000) at no additional expense.
*bad inside joke .
*Valid while limited supplies last.

Thanks again for the Post and the questions.
Seriously, let me know when you order one and what size Shirt you want.

I called tuesday to order a kit and was told I can not get one unless I have it installed by hannigan or by a dealer ,I have a CSC COBRA, LISTEN to this was told it would have different geometry than a HANNIGAN kit ???????? :xzqxz:

 

[Missouri Charley]

Road Dog, maybe I can help. I just had one installed at the factory and watched a lot of the install. I have worked on bikes, cars and farm ecq. all my life and I wouldn't want to tackle this install. Now after watching I would have no problem changing brakes or tires but there is too many variables on an install. As far as the geometry on a CSC, the Honda Goldwing frame is just that, a Goldwing frame that doesn't change. The front neck is NOT cut so the geometry is the same as ANY kit on the market. Charley

 

[ROAD DOG]

Road Dog, maybe I can help. I just had one installed at the factory and watched a lot of the install. I have worked on bikes, cars and farm ecq. all my life and I wouldn't want to tackle this install. Now after watching I would have no problem changing brakes or tires but there is too many variables on an install. As far as the geometry on a CSC, the Honda Goldwing frame is just that, a Goldwing frame that doesn't change. The front neck is NOT cut so the geometry is the same as ANY kit on the market. Charley

I have changed many sets of tripple trees this is maybe a 5-6 hr job , & I no that all gl1800 frames are the same ,There are no variables pull the front wheel ,pull the fork tube assemblys, pull the cowl ,handle bars, pull out the old trees ,grease up the new bearings torque the nut & reassemble,bleed the brakes.DONE. What I think is somebody over did the medical merryjane or they are blowing smoke up my

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

Road Dog & All,
Apologies for the conflicting information. Please call in to 270-753-4256 extension 224 when convenient and we can get everything on the right track and rolling forward quickly and easily.

The Geometry on the front is the same regardless of Manufacturer as accurately pointed out by Charley (Thanks Charley! ThumbUp). The Rear Geometry is obviously quite different. Therefore the Overall Geometry of the Trike Unit is equally as differing accordingly.
However, as far as the HMS 180 Wide Front Conversion is concerned there are no issues with compatibility or applicability. The Value, Merits, and Benefits translate equally to Trikes of all Manufacturers including your CSC.

Regarding the availability of the HMS 180 Wide to you for self-install, given your professed abilities and experience I see no issue personally. We will lay all that to rest when you call as well.
As Charley pointed out, it is more complicated and involved than mere Triple Tree swapping/replacing and Brake Assembly work. A Project of this magnitude and depth can be more daunting and beyond the limitations and capabilities of some (such as myself included). We simply wish to fully and properly inform each and every prospective Client of what is involved in order to allow each to make an informed decision prior to undertaking this Project as most would want and appreciate.
Again, after reading your Post I see no issue and do apologize for the misperceptions.

Look forward to your call and moving onward with providing what you want and need as well as the successful implementation of your HMS 180 Wide Front Upgrade to come.
You are going to Love It ThumbUp

 

[ROAD DOG]

Road Dog, maybe I can help. I just had one installed at the factory and watched a lot of the install. I have worked on bikes, cars and farm ecq. all my life and I wouldn't want to tackle this install. Now after watching I would have no problem changing brakes or tires but there is too many variables on an install. As far as the geometry on a CSC, the Honda Goldwing frame is just that, a Goldwing frame that doesn't change. The front neck is NOT cut so the geometry is the same as ANY kit on the market. Charley

Charley was your bike raked before you did the 180 front end? If so what rake did it have ? I had read all of wheels reports on how good the front end is , but did not no he was coming from a unraked trike. How much different is the new front end ? THANKS DAN

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

Re-Posted here from the Yamaha Trike Section.....

Lug nuts

What size allen wrench are the lug nuts on a hannigan?
Standard Honda equipment I suppose?
I need to add one to my tool collection.
Thanks!​

Re: Lug nuts

A #12 sized metric Allen socket will do the job. Hannigan provides a tool that is that size with a 3/4" hex head and just under 3" long. I believe the reasoning for the hex head is so that one can use a conventional lug wrench. I bought a fold up type at one of the auto parts stores to keep in the trunk along with the tool
Larry​

Thanks much to Motorcycle Mike for the Question and to Carbon One for the Answer ThumbUp​

​

 

[3rdwheel]

I placed a phone call and sent an email message to Jim G about 2 warranty issues several days ago. I also left a message on your web-site about the issues. In addition, today I sent an email to Coach Rice.

I am hoping that soon I'll get a call.

Thanks, Keith

 

[65restomod]

Latest honda brake recall

Does this latest recall affect the Hannigan trike conversion or is that disabled on your kits??

 

[ROAD DOG]

Road Dog & All,
Apologies for the conflicting information. Please call in to 270-753-4256 extension 224 when convenient and we can get everything on the right track and rolling forward quickly and easily.

The Geometry on the front is the same regardless of Manufacturer as accurately pointed out by Charley (Thanks Charley! ThumbUp). The Rear Geometry is obviously quite different. Therefore the Overall Geometry of the Trike Unit is equally as differing accordingly.
However, as far as the HMS 180 Wide Front Conversion is concerned there are no issues with compatibility or applicability. The Value, Merits, and Benefits translate equally to Trikes of all Manufacturers including your CSC.

Regarding the availability of the HMS 180 Wide to you for self-install, given your professed abilities and experience I see no issue personally. We will lay all that to rest when you call as well.
As Charley pointed out, it is more complicated and involved than mere Triple Tree swapping/replacing and Brake Assembly work. A Project of this magnitude and depth can be more daunting and beyond the limitations and capabilities of some (such as myself included). We simply wish to fully and properly inform each and every prospective Client of what is involved in order to allow each to make an informed decision prior to undertaking this Project as most would want and appreciate.
Again, after reading your Post I see no issue and do apologize for the misperceptions.

Look forward to your call and moving onward with providing what you want and need as well as the successful implementation of your HMS 180 Wide Front Upgrade to come.
You are going to Love It ThumbUp

I received my 180 front end a few weeks back , I was surprised when I opened the boxes & there were no packing list or any instructions at all ?? I called & was told there are no instruction?? They would email me some pictures ?? IT took a little bit to figure out which way the wheel mounted with the spacers & extra axle bolt ?? The trees went on no problem, I put a set of HELLI BARS on at the same time , I got the front end on , brakes bled , everything hooked up , then its time to try to install the front fender that has no holes drilled at all , I need to drill 12 holes ?? The fender does not fit with the fork brace?? So I had to cut 3.5 inches of the back half of the front fender , grind the top off the rear half of the fender, after that I go to paint the fender , after many test panels find out the bike has the wrong paint code, its not code 325 its code 304 ?? I got to take it for a ride monday night , at 41 pounds of air it rode real ruff I lowerd the air to 34 pounds it rides great, handles great , on bridges & rail road tracks its soo smooth , Its one of the best improvements I have made yet.

The front tire is rated for 1050 pounds at 41 psi I weighed the trike with me on it full of gas the front end weighs 524 pounds I feal I can run this tire at 30 - 34 pounds with no problem, the tire patch on the ground is 4 inches ,were before with the stock wheel & tire it had about 2 inches . It was well worth the time & money spent . ONE MORE THING I NEVER GOT MY $50,000. T-SHIRT

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

Road Dog,
Glad to hear all is done and the HMS 180 Wide Front is performing to your expectations and satisfaction on your CSC Trike ThumbUp
Thanks much for your trust and effort as well as the time to post your thoughts.

About the T-shirt, PM me your size.
We might just upgrade you to the $75k model




*Regarding the Pressure on the Michelin Commander II Tire utilized on the HMS 180 Wide Front Conversion:
We firmly maintain the recommended 41 psi Stance based upon and proven by research, experience, testing, and numerous Client Field Trial results.

We realize that Individual Opinion and Preference may differ.

 

[bjacmarsh]

I noticed that in April of this year you received a post regarding Kuryakyn footboards (I assume the boards also included a heel-toe shifter). Three weeks ago I ordered a new Hannigan kit for my '08 GL1800 which also has Kury floorboards. It looks like they will not fit with the foot fairings. My installer suggested eliminating The Kury boards and, in fact, the stock pegs and simply use the foot fairings alone. It appears that the reach to the shifter and rear brake will not be unreasonable. I was wondering if you had any more to report on this issue?

After nearly two years of research, I decided on a Hannigan kit and can't wait for it to be delivered to AMS in New Hampshire and installed.

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

bjacmarsh,
First, Thanks very much for your business and your trust. Both are greatly appreciated ThumbUp
Doug and the Crew will do a great job for you and, like us here, are equally as capable and willing to serve throughout your ownership experience long after the 3 wheels roll and the smiles begin.
Your 08 Black-Beauty (or Beast if you prefer ) will be Stunning I'm sure. Please post pictures and share your thoughts after you take possession and begin this new exciting Chapter of your Riding.

On to your question.
There are some Kuryakyn Foot Peg/Board/Control Products that are not compatible with the Foot Fairings either at all or without modification or Adaptors/adaptation to the Kury Products.
We do our best to allow for or adapt to them as we can from this end but unfortunately it is impossible to accomplish across the board for all. We do apologize for the inconvenience these situations may cause for some.

There is some "good news" as your Dealer points out and you have posted..
With the addition of the Weight-Bearing, fully Sub-framed, **Hand-laid Laminate Fiberglass produced Foot-Fairings to the HMS Trike, your options are greatly increased concerning foot placement and comfort.
It is safe to say the majority of our Gold Wing Clients do indeed remove their Foot Pegs and/or Boards (you Must leave the Peg Mount on as that is a mounting point for the center Foot-Fairing framework) and utilize the Foot-Fairings themselves for foot placement. This gives the Rider much more versatility on where you can rest your feet and change up Leg/Knee/Hip positioning often to suit individual preference. Doing so has many obvious positive results and ramifications.

** ALL Hannigan Motorsports Fiberglass is, and always has been, produced using Hand-Laid Laminate (with core-mat) Process. An Industry exclusive.

 

[FRR]

I noticed that in April of this year you received a post regarding Kuryakyn footboards (I assume the boards also included a heel-toe shifter). Three weeks ago I ordered a new Hannigan kit for my '08 GL1800 which also has Kury floorboards. It looks like they will not fit with the foot fairings. My installer suggested eliminating The Kury boards and, in fact, the stock pegs and simply use the foot fairings alone. It appears that the reach to the shifter and rear brake will not be unreasonable. I was wondering if you had any more to report on this issue?

After nearly two years of research, I decided on a Hannigan kit and can't wait for it to be delivered to AMS in New Hampshire and installed.

I raised the question earlier this year about installing Ergo II footpegs. What I had to do was to purchase new 6 inch arms, and attach them on the vertical front bar instead of the horizonal bar and use my original peddles. That is the only was they can work. I love the ground effects on my new Hannigan kit, but they are challenging when it comes to foot accessories. By the way, you will certainly love the kit. I purchased my 2012 with a new Hannigan kit installed in April, have ridden it 9 K and still have not seen another Hannigan anywhere I have been. They are rare in my part of Ohio and when I posted a request for information on wher Hannigan owners live I only received minimal responses. Their suspension is top notch and styling is unique.

 

[ectrike]

Re: World’s First Factory Bagger Convertible Trike

How does the support bar fasten to the bike that hold the floorboards on my Hannigan trike?

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

Re: World’s First Factory Bagger Convertible Trike

How does the support bar fasten to the bike that hold the floorboards on my Hannigan trike?

Thanks for the question. In order to properly answer that question and have it explained to your satisfaction, please call in to 270-753-4256 and ask to be transferred to Jim.
He is off today, Wednesday the 8th, but is expected to return tomorrow.

 

[Hannigan Motorsports]

I noticed that in April of this year you received a post regarding Kuryakyn footboards (I assume the boards also included a heel-toe shifter). Three weeks ago I ordered a new Hannigan kit for my '08 GL1800 which also has Kury floorboards. It looks like they will not fit with the foot fairings. My installer suggested eliminating The Kury boards and, in fact, the stock pegs and simply use the foot fairings alone. It appears that the reach to the shifter and rear brake will not be unreasonable. I was wondering if you had any more to report on this issue?

After nearly two years of research, I decided on a Hannigan kit and can't wait for it to be delivered to AMS in New Hampshire and installed.

In reference to the Foot-Board fitment questions above and posted by others previously, the following Pics will hopefully help...



This GEN 2 Trike was recently in having a Whale Tail Spoiler added at the same time the Client picked-up his matching GL Series Trailer.

As shown in the pictures, it is possible to mount Highway Pegs/Boards to the Crash-Bars in conjunction with the Foot Fairing Option. He had them mounted to the horizontal without issue or conflict. The adjustability and versatility in mounting and foot positioning is retained and does allow for the Rider to attain their desired placement for comfort.

Hope this helps all existing and prospective Hannigan Trike Owners to achieve the accessorizing they desire and outfit their Trikes with the Options they want and need at the same time.

Thanks much to all who questioned and posted the situation.

"Where there is a Will - There is a Way"
Hannigan Owners, like Hannigan Motorsports the Company, are Prime examples of that Mantra.

 

[rufus15]

First post, but wanted to ask about the the 180 front end. I have a 2012 level III and considering the Hannigan kit in the spring. Spoke with one of your dealers in my area and he basically wanted to save me $3,000.00 saying that the progressive shocks will be fine and really no need to go with the larger front end. However I've spoke with a few Hannigan owners and "bathroom lawyer" opinions are mixed. I'm looking for a good experience with such a big investment, and hope you can give me the skinny.

The other part of this is I'm told that it will need to be a bias ply tire mounted in reverse direction. If that's the case what can I expect in terms of comfort when riding, and mileage with non aggressive driving? Thank you for any info you can send my way.

 

[Dave Pope]

Rufus15, I'm in the process of having the Hannigan kit and '180' installed on my '04 as I type. My installer, Mark Cole, of Cycle Specialties in Portland, Or., took it on a test run "in town" (his son, his chief mechanic, just had to as well) and their comment was "Wow!. I am awaiting completion of the body installation after which Mark (on a not-raining-day-in-Portland[??]) will take it down the Old Columbia Highway and wring it out. I'll post is comments as well as some of my own when the build is completed. At this point in the process, he is very impressed with the mechanicals of the assembly especially the ride quality and 'bump management'. As to the tire, I'd stay with what Hannigan provides unless conversation with them justifies a change.

 

[rufus15]

Rufus15, I'm in the process of having the Hannigan kit and '180' installed on my '04 as I type. My installer, Mark Cole, of Cycle Specialties in Portland, Or., took it on a test run "in town" (his son, his chief mechanic, just had to as well) and their comment was "Wow!. I am awaiting completion of the body installation after which Mark (on a not-raining-day-in-Portland[??]) will take it down the Old Columbia Highway and wring it out. I'll post is comments as well as some of my own when the build is completed. At this point in the process, he is very impressed with the mechanicals of the assembly especially the ride quality and 'bump management'. As to the tire, I'd stay with what Hannigan provides unless conversation with them justifies a change.

Thanks Dave, look forward to it.