Reverse inoperable x2

[sparky1597]

While going over my 2013 Tri Glide, at the dealer, the reverse was intermittent, then would just engage, no movement. Service writer said a bolt on solenoid was stripped. Replaced solenoid and delivered trike to me.
Put 1 mile on it around neighborhood, including using reverse, on level ground. Drove it into my garage, and parked it. Went out there today, next day, reverse is inoperable, again! Same symptoms as before. Left message for service to come get it and fix it, right.

 

[Bikerbozo]

When my '10 TG was new, all sorts of reverse problems. Everything was finally replaced. One easy thing to check is breaker. You might want to pop it open and close again to reset. Might be in partial tripped state. Had that happen also. On mine, its located behind right side triangle cover. Not sure if still on yours.

 

[sparky1597]

When my '10 TG was new, all sorts of reverse problems. Everything was finally replaced. One easy thing to check is breaker. You might want to pop it open and close again to reset. Might be in partial tripped state. Had that happen also. On mine, its located behind right side triangle cover. Not sure if still on yours.

Pop it open? All I see is a red reset button, no breaker. I'll have to check it again to see if it is a breaker, not just a reset.
Everything replaced? Such as the solenoid, motor, breaker, anything else?

 

[Livin2Ride]

Not to be abrasive or insult you, but read the owners manual and look at the pictures and you will under stand. Then make sure you are doing the procedure right, bike in neutral, push the override switch and then the reverse switch. And yes I went thru a new motor on my '12 before it had 5K miles, but the new one seems tough as nails.

 

[sparky1597]

Guess what? I believed my salesman about resetting the breaker. He said push the red button, which didn't work. Looked closer, and did BikerBozo's idea, after looking in owners manual. IT WORKS NOW!!! Now I have to eat crow with the dealer!

 

[sparky1597]

Thanks BikerBozo and Livin2Ride! I somehow skipped over that part in the manual! Time to read it cover to cover, again, with no skipping any sections!!

 

[trikermutha]

If the reset/breaker trips or is intermitent I would still have the dealer look at it as there could still be a hidden problem there??

 

[sparky1597]

If the reset/breaker trips or is intermitent I would still have the dealer look at it as there could still be a hidden problem there??

I agree. It worked fine yesterday, first thing this am, tried to back out garage and it didn't work, had to reset it, without even using it.

 

[Rickie "T"]

make sure you have the parking brake off before you start to move that will pot the breaker

 

[Livin2Ride]

Glad you got it to working.

 

[jcolson]

I've backed up with the brake on plenty of times ca8use I forgot to release it and it never tripped. Maybe it doesn't even work. I asked the service tech one time and he said it doesn't have one. A lot he knows Huh? They need to read the owners book.Or better yet, send them to Kindergarden before they go to first grade.

 

[Rod69]

Have an 09. Had to have the breaker replaced the first week I had the trike. It would not reset. The dealer couldn't get it to reset either so he replaced it.

 

[Strohkr]

Leave it to the MoCo not to do it right in the first place and use a Mechanical Reverse. Gonna replace mine with a Champion reverse kit - getting really sick and tired of the "reset" thing.

 

[patriot]

Replace the solenoid once; been working since.

 

[Sloufoot]

Leave it to the MoCo not to do it right in the first place and use a Mechanical Reverse. Gonna replace mine with a Champion reverse kit - getting really sick and tired of the "reset" thing.

Because of design an electric motor draws more current on start-up of the motor than it does at a steady operating speed.
I found it will pop the breaker if I keep hitting the button rather than keeping the button pushed. Although if there is much of an incline it fails also.
Some systems have no problem while others just can't stand any load. MOCO doesn't want to do anything about their problem.
It only has a 150 amp breaker inline.
Manual reverse has it's own drawbacks, but way better than their current electrical system !
:Trike1:

 

[Oldmsocko]

Because of design an electric motor draws more current on start-up of the motor than it does at a steady operating speed.
I found it will pop the breaker if I keep hitting the button rather than keeping the button pushed. Although if there is much of an incline it fails also.
Some systems have no problem while others just can't stand any load. MOCO doesn't want to do anything about their problem.
It only has a 150 amp breaker inline.
Manual reverse has it's own drawbacks, but way better than their current electrical system !
:Trike1:

I couldn't agree with you more. That is why I seldom use mine.

 

[screwball]

Help me, I don't undersand. You dropped upward of 30,000 dollars for a motorcycle with at least a 2 year warrenty and you aren't camped out at the dealers, sending hate mail to MoCo, and on the phone with every consumer reporter in your area?? The second time it failed I would have been at the dealers with a copy of your state's "Lemon Law" in my hand. I'm kind of like Old Mike (only older). For over 50 years I road 2 wheelers without reverse, we used the "Flintstone Method" of backing up. I rarely parked where I would have to back up. Wife and I very rarely use reverse on the trikes, but have never had a problem when we do.

Good Luck

 

[Sloufoot]

Help me, I don't undersand. You dropped upward of 30,000 dollars for a motorcycle with at least a 2 year warrenty and you aren't camped out at the dealers, sending hate mail to MoCo, and on the phone with every consumer reporter in your area?? The second time it failed I would have been at the dealers with a copy of your state's "Lemon Law" in my hand. I'm kind of like Old Mike (only older). For over 50 years I road 2 wheelers without reverse, we used the "Flintstone Method" of backing up. I rarely parked where I would have to back up. Wife and I very rarely use reverse on the trikes, but have never had a problem when we do.

Good Luck

Let me see....... Lemon law says they can replace the vehicle with one like the one you have, or return your money. What would you do with another one just like it ?
First the reverse works as they advertise, as in it backs the trike up on level ground. Now they don't even call it a reverse. It is referred to as a reverse assist. They don't say it will back up your steep driveway, nor back up a ramp into the trailer. Although a few do that without a problem.
So on what leg do you stand on ????
After enough arguments if you want a Harley , you take the Harley & figure a way around the problem...... I just be sure & not park where there would be a strong pull on the reverse. At this time, I haven't found the proper heaver breaker to install. I'm looking for a 200amp that looks just like the one in there. Later there will be a manual kit put on, but for now electric is working as advertised.
Any non capacitor start motor will draw heavily when you hit the start button, & run at a lesser amperage after starting. The breaker is a thermal safety, so if you keep hitting it with starting loads, it's going to fail.
I haven't run any tests on the draw, but if it is running around 125 amps running on flat ground & you have a 150 amp breaker you don't have much room for load.
:Trike1:

 

[msocko3]

I agree the MoCo has a constancy issue with their reverse, the 2010 Triglide I used to have had a great reverse, it never kicked out. I backed up my trike with the wife on board and the trailer hooked up with no problems, even up some grades.

As to customers service, its gone down hill IMO. I can remember calling customer service about a problem and them bending over backwards to take care of it, I also remember the dealer I used to do business with doing the same. When I started talking to customer service concerning the searing heat coming off my 2010 Triglide's engine all the dealer would do is shrug their shoulders and tell me to call the MoCo. When I called the MoCo they said it was operating as designed, when I pressed them with operating as designed burning the customer they stuck to their ground. I pissed up that rope long enough before I resorted to self help which solved the problem.

 

[Sloufoot]

I pissed up that rope long enough before I resorted to self help which solved the problem.

:Agree:

 

[427dave]

Had all kinds of trouble with mine, they replaced everything but then they replaced the reverse motor, and so far it is still working. I kept telling them it was the motor but no, they ordered solenoid, some clip, then they changed motor with a used one in there inventory, I wanted a new motor, but no they said they did not have one so I get a used one. Good luck

 

[Bikerbozo]

Forgot to mention. When they did finally replace my reverse motor, I noticed it had more rpm & torque. Asked the mechanic about that. He says p/n still the same and don't know nothing. With the stronger motor, I notice I have to give the throttle a little rev otherwise I will stall out. Newer motor just sucks way more amps. Hasn't failed in over a year.