New Michelin front tire

[patriot]

That's Pilot Activ ( not Active ) be careful I understand that is not the same tire.

Your right John; just not thinking when I typed.

 

[The Wolf]

Pilot Activ

Hello Guys,
the info re this tyre is fantastic. So the next question is...How much do these tyres cost?

I am going to enjoy seeing the tyre fiters face when I say "fit the tyre the opposite way round"
cheers again guys.

 

[patriot]

Hello Guys,
the info re this tyre is fantastic. So the next question is...How much do these tyres cost?

I am going to enjoy seeing the tyre fiters face when I say "fit the tyre the opposite way round"
cheers again guys.

Wolf, Wednesday when I dropped my bike off at the trike installer, I pulled out the tire and the guy looked at it and said, "you want this installed backwards don't you?" so he already knows what the trike owners are doing.

I paid $96 dollars shipped. That's US dollars.

 

[PStan]

Hi trikerjim

I have a Trike with a Pilot tire running reversed. I don't like it because it is noisy. I have heard that Michelin has a new tire for the front of Trike. Can you give me name and info on it?

 

[Yellow Trike]

I tried to order the Michelin Pilot Activ today....no one had it in stock and all were expected to get their supply after 8/18....<br />
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So I order the Michelin Pilot GT --same size. So we'll see if I get over 40k with it.<br />
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The current MPA has plenty of tread but I'm not happy with the way it ix responding. It acts like it is on pebbles or is on a slick surface at slower speeds--as in really good power steering. All other steering works just like it always has so not looking at a mechanical problem.

 

[Buzzard]

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So I order the Michelin Pilot GT --same size. So we'll see if I get over 40k with it.<br />
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The current MPA has plenty of tread but I'm not happy with the way it ix responding. It acts like it is on pebbles or is on a slick surface at slower speeds--as in really good power steering. All other steering works just like it always has so not looking at a mechanical problem.</div>

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<a href="http://www.tiresunlimited.com/motorcycle_tires.htm" target="_blank">Motorcycle Tires - Brands</a><br />
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Buzzard

 

[07BlueCSC]

Pilot Activ

Put on the Activ Friday(8/15/08). Proper rotation, it is a lot noiser than the the OE Bridgestone(Bald at 8200 miles)

 

[Yellow Trike]

Buzzard....no I had not tried them. Maybe in 40k miles.

 

[mpolissky]

Hello all. This is an advise for the replacement front tire that I just received from the shop that manufactured my trike, The Trike Shop of Daytona:<br />
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<i><font color="Blue">"The tire that is on your GL1800 now is a radial...fine on two wheels because you are leaning. When it comes to a trike, the wear pattern is different because you are steering. The bias-ply front tire is a "tougher" tire!! I have someone that just came in for service, and he has put 15,000 miles plus on his Bridgestone G701 Exedra that we installed for him and he still has a few thousand miles to go!! Have a great weekend and Happy Halloween!<br />
- Mary"</font></i><br />
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Hope it helps.<br />
Michael

 

[Baz]

Haven't quite got my head around the reversed DOR yet but I'm listening to you'all re the Michelin Bias ply construction Pilot activ.<br />
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Will this give me better steering due to increased grip ?? as I'm suffering from under steer on the odd occasion. I would appreciate any advise you may care to offer. Thanking you. Baz <img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />

 

[Gorilla]

Baz the reverse DOR is really mostly for wear. Most rear tires have a deeper thread so more to wear off. I'm not sure what the reverse rotation does because the rotation is usually for dispitating the water under the tire via the tread pattern.

The bias ply will give you stiffer side walls therefor more thread stays on the pavement.

 

[John Luciano]

I noticed a big difference in the first 1/4 mile of driving.

 

[Boscoporp]

I am on my second Trike. Both of them had the Michelin Pilot Activ running in reverse. There is a lot of opinions about the reverse theory. Personally I have gotten a lot of miles out of the tires and they seem to have a lot of grip on the road. I feel very confident with that tire in the rain too!

 

[BlueTrinity]

I agree with the concept of the bias ply tire holding a better dry road grip and providing better steering. I have not researched it, but I suspect that on wet surfaces that may not necessarily hold true.

Reversing the tire direction however, is another matter.

It defies all logic that a tread design specifically engineered to move water from the front center of the contact patch to the rear outside will perform that function as adequately when rotating in the opposite direction.

Paradoxically, it is also a logical assumption, that pushing the water volume toward the contact patch instead of away from it, will increase the risk of hydroplaning, which by its very definition is when a layer of water builds between the rubber tires of the vehicle and the road surface, leading to the loss of traction.

I personally cannot justify even a small compromise in safety in exchange for whatever small savings I may gain from the increased mileage befor tire replacement.

Everyone must make their own personal decision, but that's my :2cents: worth.

 

[Gorilla]

I agree with BT. I will run a rear on the front because of the more rubber to start with, but I think I will leave the rotation as designed by the engineers.

 

[Baz]

I agree with the concept of the bias ply tire holding a better dry road grip and providing better steering. I have not researched it, but I suspect that on wet surfaces that may not necessarily hold true.

Reversing the tire direction however, is another matter.

It defies all logic that a tread design specifically engineered to move water from the front center of the contact patch to the rear outside will perform that function as adequately when rotating in the opposite direction.

Paradoxically, it is also a logical assumption, that pushing the water volume toward the contact patch instead of away from it, will increase the risk of hydroplaning, which by its very definition is when a layer of water builds between the rubber tires of the vehicle and the road surface, leading to the loss of traction.

I personally cannot justify even a small compromise in safety in exchange for whatever small savings I may gain from the increased mileage befor tire replacement.

Everyone must make their own personal decision, but that's my :2cents: worth.

An Excellent logical answer. Thank you. Baz

 

[JJTRIKER]

Well, i have ran the tire on my valkyrie reversed for 20k no cupping and no hydroplaning. The tire when i traded it still had over 50 % wear left.
Now because of sizing problems i am running a shimco rear tire on the front reversed i have driven it 12k with vertually no problems except for some minor cupping because the installer didnt put in the proper air pressure.(harley guy) hates trikes as well. Not going back. I expect it to go another 20k+at least. I will take a photo of it today and post it.
Anyway i also know a guy that ran the active 51k before changing it and he also ran it reversed.
I also am a logical guy but, i also dont know anything other than results.

 

[BlueTrinity]

the installer didnt put in the proper air pressure.(harley guy) .

Do I detect a bit of brand bias there?
Sure glad I don't have any!:Flag:


Seriously though, you make my point that every rider must make their own decisions, based on their own assessment of what is best for themselves.

 

[JJTRIKER]

yes you are correct no brand bias i was just teasing actually sorry no offence

 

[BlueTrinity]

None taken. And I was just pokin some back at you.