Need Love Jugs Advice

[cdculbertson]

I am considering adding Love Jugs to my 2015 Tri Glide, but I am a little confused by what is needed for installation. I understand that I will need the 8 pin adapter, but will I need the Frame Mounting Kit as well as the Vibration Master, or will just one or the other suffice? I saw a reference to understanding the four installation options, but I never saw a link to the 4 options. Any advice, as well as an idea of how long it takes to install the Love Jugs would be appreciated.

On another note, do most prefer the Cool Master or the Mighty-Mite?

 

[Fearless]

I am considering adding Love Jugs to my 2015 Tri Glide, but I am a little confused by what is needed for installation. I understand that I will need the 8 pin adapter, but will I need the Frame Mounting Kit as well as the Vibration Master, or will just one or the other suffice? I saw a reference to understanding the four installation options, but I never saw a link to the 4 options. Any advice, as well as an idea of how long it takes to install the Love Jugs would be appreciated.

On another note, do most prefer the Cool Master or the Mighty-Mite?

I use the Heavy Duty mount that comes with the Mighty Mites no problem so far over five thousand miles. I wired mine direct to battery saves grief in long run, accessory plug interfered with tuner read out just sayin. You will love the fans especially in traffic. Ride safe Fred

:Shrug:

 

[nucseal]

I am considering adding Love Jugs to my 2015 Tri Glide, but I am a little confused by what is needed for installation. I understand that I will need the 8 pin adapter, but will I need the Frame Mounting Kit as well as the Vibration Master, or will just one or the other suffice? I saw a reference to understanding the four installation options, but I never saw a link to the 4 options. Any advice, as well as an idea of how long it takes to install the Love Jugs would be appreciated.

On another note, do most prefer the Cool Master or the Mighty-Mite?

If you do the frame mount, you will not need the Vibration Master. Frame mounting supposedly eliminates the majority of vibration. If you horn mount, you will need the Vibration Master. As to which one to get, both the Cool Master or the Mighty-Mite are both efficient cooling system, cooling difference is negligible. I have the Cool Master on my Tri Glide, and that is only because they did not offer the Mighty-Mites at the time. If I had to do it over again, I would go with the Mighty-Mites.

Ride Safe

Nuc

 

[Old Road Dog]

Had the Coolmaster on the Dyna.The vibration master (no not that one) is a must when using the horn mount. I wired them direct to the battery.Loud.Parked outside of Wal-Mart and left 'em on while I went inside."Will the owner with the Harley Davidson please report to the front desk".Being a bright lad I figuered they were talking to me.It seems a small crowd had gathered around my bike expecting it to take off all on its own.Where do these people come from?

 

[Papa Zook]

I would suggest you use the fame mount. It will eliminate all the vibration. Either fan the Mighty Mite or Coolmaster will do a good job of controlling the heat. www.buylovejugs.com

 

[cdculbertson]

Thanks folks! Looks like it will be the Mighty-Mites with the frame mount. I really liked the looks of the Mighty-Mites anyway, and Fearless' photo was a help.

 

[Fearless]

Thanks folks! Looks like it will be the Mighty-Mites with the frame mount. I really liked the looks of the Mighty-Mites anyway, and Fearless' photo was a help.

your welcome we love the fans it will increase engine life and comfort for the rider.

 

[Rooster57]

Oh yeah!!!! Get the Mighty Miites

Hey cdculbertson!

......I have a 2016 TG (water cooled)........Have not reviewed on this site yet because I put them on this winter and wanted to wait until I had some miles on them....put over 1000 miles on them now and I must say "They are great!"..........I leave them on most of the ride time and have had no more "hot pinging" in bad traffic (like I used to sometimes get in this devilish gridlocked Dallas road congestion)......They sound like mini jet engines when the trike is not running, but when the motor is on and the stereo too = I can't even hear them!

.....May I urge you to get the frame mount kit and these things won't budge from their mounted location when used after many miles (at least mine haven't,)......also, If you decide to go with frame mount kit, then I really, really, really suggest you take your gas tank off before installing these jewels as it will make the installation mucho easier!!!!! (4 bolts) = just remove it.

I'm sure the horn bracket mount is fine too but I truly have read where some claim the fans vibrated too much and came loose on the horn cover mount bracket. (won't happen with the frame mount kit I now know for sure!

....I originally just cut the plug off the fans and hooked up straight to battery....BUT, later I puchased an auxillary power switch kit HD #71400106 and hooked it to the dash switch in the kit so it would not be able to turn on when trike wasn't running (I did this after I walked out of the dealer one day and saw a couple sitting on my trike taking selfee pics as it was sitting next to the new bikes in front of the dealership)

..........I don't know if yours is water cooled on not....probably is........When I got my kit with frame bracket mount, I found it confusing as the instructions were for an air cooled engine.

........With the air cooled engine you have more room to mount the fan bracket........not so with the water cooled engine as I noticed....you will have to mount the fan bracket off to the right side of the frame mounted bracket slot..........see pics (if there is another way, I couldnt see it) .....BE VERY CAREFUL with your fuel line and try not too fool with it any more than is absolutely necessary as it will take NO ABUSE or it will leak! (don't ask me how I found this out)

........anyway, here's a couple of pics below that may explain better.....(the skull horn cover I just added and replaced the stock horn cover)...The gas tank has been removed:



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............Bought the Mighty Mites from Papa Zooks place here on this website = www.buylovejugs.com or phone #346-800-7946 (excellent product)

Cheers!

 

[Jack Klarich]

I have the Mighty Mites hardwired @ the battery with the fuse

What a GREAT product, Dont leave home with out them

 

[Rooster57]

Reply to Jack:

I have the Mighty Mites hardwired @ the battery with the fuse

What a GREAT product, Dont leave home with out them

....I couldn't agree more....when and if mine ever burn out, they will be replaced ASAP!

Cheers!

 

[LadyonaMission]

They each have a little push button. Off/On

 

[Papa Zook]

If the bike is running, the fans need to be running, so yes they run the whole time the bike is running and do not use a thermostat. Tests have shown that even at a steady speed of 65-75 mph, heat increases and the fans can reduce the heat by up to 72 degrees even at speed, this is the data from DK Kevin's test that he published on this site. They do have an on off switch on the fan itself, or you can plug them into an accessory plug and they will turn on and off with the bike's ignition switch.

 

[LadyonaMission]

Being confused happens. Monday I was doing a little yardwork, I came in to wash my hands because I had something I wanted to do that I felt required clean hands.

Here it is Wednesday and I still don't remember what it was I was going to do. Maybe I've already done it, but maybe not.

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

I have the cool masters on my 17,had i known that the DK custom oil cooler wont fit with the cool masters only the Mighty Mites i would have bought the Mighty Mites.But i do like the Cool masters,hoping someone comes out with an oil cooler for the wet heads.

 

[MB1953]

I had the Cool Masters on my old bike, used the Vibration Master. Got the Mighty Mites from Papa Zook on my '17; no need for the Vibration Master. They are so much lighter than the Cool Masters, they don't really vibrate that I can see. Of course, the M8 in the '17 is smoother. In any case, wouldn't be without them!

 

[Jack Klarich]

I have the Mighty Mites from Papa Zook www.buylovejugs.com

Hardwired @ the battery with the supplied fuse

The toggle switch is easy to reach

I run them all the time and have seen as much as 50 * drop in temp

The M8 does NOT vibrate as much as older models

 

[cdculbertson]

I appreciate all of the feedback and, Rooster, that was some great information as well as very helpful photos!

I see that a lot of you are hardwiring the fans to the battery. Would that be preferable to buying the 8 pin plug?

 

[Fearless]

I appreciate all of the feedback and, Rooster, that was some great information as well as very helpful photos!

I see that a lot of you are hardwiring the fans to the battery. Would that be preferable to buying the 8 pin plug?

I had interference from the accessory plug circuit with my Power Vision Tuner so I hard wired it no problems now. With motor shutdown the fans are loud enough to just use switch you will hear them and turn them off neater job in my opinion. Fred

 

[Rooster57]

reply to cdculbertson

I appreciate all of the feedback and, Rooster, that was some great information as well as very helpful photos!

I see that a lot of you are hardwiring the fans to the battery. Would that be preferable to buying the 8 pin plug?

....Well a lot of these dudes are complaining about interference noise after wiring thru dash (and I was concerned about it too) and thats why I originally just cut the wiring plug and wired it straight to battery = and that works great! BUT, anyone could turn those fans on when the trike is off and your away! Originally, I thought that would not likely happen.......but then I noticed people sitting on my Trike at the dealer and could have fooled around with knobs and switches (kids worry me too) and possibly could leave the fans running! So, I soldered the plug back on to the fans and hooked it up to my added wiring harness which had the big Acc. plug (for my Zepplin seat) and the smaller plug which fit my Mighty Mites fans.........I found I had NO interference noise at all on sound system....so, it worked out fine "for me" on "this particular trike"..........now the fans will not work unless ignition (or Acc) is on....I have to activate an acc button on dash to be sure seat and fans have power (which I always leave on)........I suggest to buy the plug and plug to wire harness for peace of mind when your away....If its a problem, whack it off and wire straight to battery! .....Better to have all possible ways to wire it than only one way I think.........But thats just my opinion..........good luck.

.......now maybe these 2017 and 2018 models really dont need to frame mount as they "DO vibrate less"...........but my 2016 and your 2015 vibrates plenty!..so I really recommend the harder to install frame mount version for us.........But its a pain it the ass to install so do yourself a BIG FAT FAVOR and take that tank off before you start! (and go easy working around the fuel line.) Good Luck!

Cheers!

 

[PosseRider]

Wish I had known all this over a year ago. Mine vibrate so bad when taking off from stop, I am ready to remove them.

 

[Rooster57]

reply to posserider

Hey Bill!

...these frame mounted Mighty Mites..........well, let me say: "I would'nt even know they were there when the engine's running and stereo on!" (no mass vibration either)

....I was afraid they would blow too much heat on my right side which would cause me to ride with my right leg in the air like a cat lickin' his ass!:xzqxz: ....but no, most of the time I rarely feel anything on my right leg that I wouldnt have felt anyway (as with a crossdraft on the motor)...........If my right leg is hot and I turn off the fans = my right leg is still hot anyway!

...I really recommend these Mighty Mites.......Engine likes them!

Cheers!

 

[LadyonaMission]

Bill,

Maybe you can take them off then reinstall them with the engine mount.

 

[Rooster57]

reply to cdculbertson

Regarding the Love Jugs "frame mount kit" on the Harley water cooled engine:



Oh, and i forgot to mention it.................but the horn bracket that the horn is originally mounted to..the the one that mounts to both cylinder heads and holds the horn......I recommend to just remove it so all the Love Jug brackets will clear everything nicely (that's what I did)........discard bracket mount and reinstall the bolts to the cylinder heads.

......Yes, I know it sounds scary to do this..........but its the only way I found to frame mount the Love Jugs correctly! ....I did much research before I removed the bracket (including talking to Papa Zook on this website forum) and its done all the time as the brackets' main purpose is to just hold the horn.

This is the bracket I'm talking about:

.....if you can figure out how to keep it on "AND" install the Love Jugs frame mount kit, then thats' great....I could not, so off it stays for me! (engine runs just fine and I do not notice any extra engine vibration after removing this bracket)

Cheers!

Cheers!

 

[cdculbertson]

I'll keep all of this fine advice for consideration but, frankly, I'm getting tired of throwing more and more money at an issue that the MoCo should have taken care of years ago. So far I have already added a Stage 1 with decatted header, Rinehart pipes, high flow air filter and cover (just like the one Kevin uses), and a tank lift and I can still feel way too much heat.

As I was just about to purchase a set of Love Jugs and a Power Vision to further improve things, I realized that this would be yet another $1k thrown into this $35k money pit. :gah:Having owned six Harleys over the years, I am coming to realize that I am kind of over the whole H-D thing and may just go in a different direction.

However, I still appreciate all of the advice!

 

[Fearless]

I'll keep all of this fine advice for consideration but, frankly, I'm getting tired of throwing more and more money at an issue that the MoCo should have taken care of years ago. So far I have already added a Stage 1 with decatted header, Rinehart pipes, high flow air filter and cover (just like the one Kevin uses), and a tank lift and I can still feel way too much heat.

As I was just about to purchase a set of Love Jugs and a Power Vision to further improve things, I realized that this would be yet another $1k thrown into this $35k money pit. :gah:Having owned six Harleys over the years, I am coming to realize that I am kind of over the whole H-D thing and may just go in a different direction.

However, I still appreciate all of the advice!

I understand and respect your thoughts good luck on your choices Travel safe Fred

 

[paws]

Doug.. have you considered the Gold Wing trike? I have no heat issues with my 2008 GL1800 Motor Trike.

I too looked at the Spyder real hard and liked it a LOT. Took a couple of test rides. I finally decided it just didn’t have the storage space for ME for a long-distance trip...and I am long distance from everywhere. Also, I didn’t want to pull a trailer. However, if I ever get back to civilization where I can just take day trips to go everywhere I want to instead of long overnight trips, I will probably trade the GW in on a Spyder.

Not that I don’t LOVE this GW trike but dealers/mechanics are non-existent in my neck of the woods out here in the wilds of west Texas. I have to trailer it to a friend 125 miles from me to do routine maintenance.

The Spyder Limited touring vehicle has ALWAYS gotten my attention - I think they are SO snazzy-looking! Good luck with your decision!

 

[cdculbertson]

Doug.. have you considered the Gold Wing trike? I have no heat issues with my 2008 GL1800 Motor Trike.

I too looked at the Spyder real hard and liked it a LOT. Took a couple of test rides. I finally decided it just didn’t have the storage space for ME for a long-distance trip...and I am long distance from everywhere. Also, I didn’t want to pull a trailer. However, if I ever get back to civilization where I can just take day trips to go everywhere I want to instead of long overnight trips, I will probably trade the GW in on a Spyder.

Not that I don’t LOVE this GW trike but dealers/mechanics are non-existent in my neck of the woods out here in the wilds of west Texas. I have to trailer it to a friend 125 miles from me to do routine maintenance.

The Spyder Limited touring vehicle has ALWAYS gotten my attention - I think they are SO snazzy-looking! Good luck with your decision!

Carla,

As a matter of fact, I almost bought a GW trike before I bought my first Tri Glide, but my credit union wouldn't give a loan on a conversion. In hindsight, I should have told them that it was a motorcycle and just given them the VIN. It was a really nice trike too.

I'm supposed to ride the 100 miles to the Dothan, AL Spyder dealer tomorrow and check out a 2017 Limited that they have on the floor. It has 2 miles on it, but they won't give me a price on the phone. I hate that kind of sales tactic, but they are the closest Spyder dealership to me.

 

[Papa Zook]

The Love Jugs should have been your 1st purchase and you would not have needed all the other things.

www.buylovejugs.com

 

[Capt.Bob]

Carla,

As a matter of fact, I almost bought a GW trike before I bought my first Tri Glide, but my credit union wouldn't give a loan on a conversion. In hindsight, I should have told them that it was a motorcycle and just given them the VIN. It was a really nice trike too.

I'm supposed to ride the 100 miles to the Dothan, AL Spyder dealer tomorrow and check out a 2017 Limited that they have on the floor. It has 2 miles on it, but they won't give me a price on the phone. I hate that kind of sales tactic, but they are the closest Spyder dealership to me.

Uh Doug, I hate to mention this but Orion Motorsports in downtown Tallahassee is your closest Can-Am dealer and Orion wheels and deals. He is a very nice man!