Installing a new front tire question

[Smilam]

When I removed the front tire which was installed by a dealer, I saw that the scribed mark on the axel was not flush with the fork. When I watched a video on changing the front tire they said to align the scribed mark with the outside of the fork. Mine was about 1/8th of an inch away from the fork.
Is there anything I need to check before I reinstall the front wheel?
Is there any reason for it to be installed that way or was it just a mistake?

 

[michael2480]

When I removed the front tire which was installed by a dealer, I saw that the scribed mark on the axel was not flush with the fork. When I watched a video on changing the front tire they said to align the scribed mark with the outside of the fork. Mine was about 1/8th of an inch away from the fork.
Is there anything I need to check before I reinstall the front wheel?
Is there any reason for it to be installed that way or was it just a mistake?

I don't know any reason it would be installed that way except that it was a mistake. Shouldn't be anything to be concerned with.

 

[Gold Rush]

Actually guys, it is quite possible and likely that scribed ring is not perfectly aligned. The video you reference is not telling the full story.

If you do not have access to a service manual (any year GL1800 will do) shoot me a PM with your email address and I will send you excerpts from the service manual. Correct wheel mounting can prevent other problems. :xszpv::xszpv:

 

[Smilam]

Thanks for the replys. I got the new tire mounted and reinstalled it today with the axel installed with the scribe Mark where it was when I removed it and then with the scribe mark where it should have been.
The front brakes have always made a noise if I got on them hard in an emergency situation but under normal braking they were fine. I discovered that the brake caliber wasn't aligned properly when the scribe Mark wasn't aligned with the outside of the fork and under heavy braking it actually flexed the rotor enough to make it drag on the caliber. It had actually worn down a place on the caliber.
When I installed the axel with the scribe Mark where it should be the rotor was centered and no mater how hard I mashed the brakes it stayed centered. I took it for a test ride and there wasn't any noise no matter how hard I got on the brakes.
To answer my original question, yes it does make a difference and the scribe Mark needs to align with the outside edge of the fork.
I learn more every time I do any work on this trike.

 

[tfdeputydawg]

I would mention this to the installing dealer as a comment to help insure others do not get an improper installation. Be nice commenting.

 

[Gold Rush]

Correct GL1800 wheel mounting

Here is the wheel install procedure from the service manual. I did move things around a bit for the sake of space taken up in the post but all the info is there. If followed completely we get the best performance and minimum ware on brake and fork components. :xszpv: :xszpv:

In putting this post together I have discovered there are differences between different year model service manuals. Why Honda has done this is beyond me. The following procedure works very well.

INSTALLATION

Be careful not to
damage the wheel
speed sensor and
pulser ring.

Install the side collars.
• The right side collar is longer than the left side collar.


Place the front wheel between the fork legs.

Insert the front axle from the left side until it is fully seated.

Make sure the index line on the axle is aligned with the fork leg.

Tighten Left pinch bolts to specified Torque. TORQUE: 22 N·m (2.2 kgf·m, 16 lbf·ft)


Tighten the axle bolt to the specified torque while holding the axle. TORQUE: 59 N·m (6.0 kgf·m, 43 lbf·ft)

Tighten the right axle holder bolts to the specified torque. TORQUE: 22 N·m (2.2 kgf·m, 16 lbf·ft)
Install the right front brake caliper with new mounting bolts so the disc is positioned between the pads,
being careful not to damage the pads. Tighten the mounting bolts. TORQUE: 31 N·m (3.2 kgf·m, 23 lbf·ft)

Install the speed sensor wire clamp and tighten the bolt.

Apply grease to the lower pivot bearing and dust seal lips, and to the outer surface of the upper pivot collar.

Install the pivot collars into the fork and caliper bracket.

Install the left front brake caliper with new mounting bolts (lower pivot and upper joint bolts) and tighten them.TORQUE: Pivot bolt: 31 N·m (3.2 kgf·m, 23 lbf·ft) Joint bolt: 26N.m (2.7 kgf·m, 19 lbf·ft)

Remove the protective tape.

Loosen the Left axle pinch bolts

With the front brake applied, pump the forks up and down several times to seat the axle and check brake operation.

Tighten the left axle holder bolts to the specified torque. TORQUE: 22 N·m (2.2 kgf·m, 16 lbf·ft)



Check the clearance between the brake disc and caliper bracket on each side after installation. The clearance should be at least 0.7 mm (0.28 in). If the feeler gauge cannot be inserted easily, loosen the axle holder bolts and pull the fork outward or push inward to adjust the clearance. Then tighten the axle holder bolts to the specified torque.

After installing the wheel, apply the front and rear
brakes several times and recheck the caliper clearances
between each surface of the brake disc and
the brake caliper. Failure to provide clearance will
damage the brake disc and affect braking efficiency.

Check the front wheel speed sensor air gap
(page 16-29).

Install front fender A (page 2-6).

Install the front fender side covers (page 2-6).

 

[michael2480]

Glad you figured it out, shouldn't be an issue now. Just because the dealer didn't install correctly it shouldn't cause you issues since you've installed it correctly. Several guys in the area that are more than willing to help and give advise if you need it.

 

[Smilam]

I am just going to chalk it up to an honest mistake and suggest that his employees double check things a little better.
I do enjoy learning new things and tinkering with projects but it is more enjoyable when it is not nearing 100 degrees in my garage. I keep dripping sweat on my service manual and on my notes.

 

[michael2480]

I'm on Okaloosa island right now but headed back home tomorrow. Not looking forward to coming back to the heat we're having there.

 

[hisst]

Alignment line

I am just going to chalk it up to an honest mistake and suggest that his employees double check things a little better.
I do enjoy learning new things and tinkering with projects but it is more enjoyable when it is not nearing 100 degrees in my garage. I keep dripping sweat on my service manual and on my notes.

If you dont align properly....the forks aren't align properly and will cause the sliders to wear quicker.hisst