hi all i thought that the stallion was a ranger in disguise i tried to use fordscan and it doesnt recognise the pcm and quits right away asks if i have a special pcm if i have a code for it anyone else tried this new to me cheers
fordscan
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Hello
I will probably get kicked out of here but it is a poor design by tbms. it leaves you with nothing to tune and there setup is poor quality even it has been rechipped by rousch. you cannot actually tune up your high price block of plastic.
Dragon
I will probably get kicked out of here but it is a poor design by tbms. it leaves you with nothing to tune and there setup is poor quality even it has been rechipped by rousch. you cannot actually tune up your high price block of plastic.
Dragon
rocket1lf
450+ Posts
You're wrong on this one. You can tune it. I had mine done. Had it put on the Dyno and retuned. Found the PCM was out of a Ford van and the timing was set very low. Retimed it and adjusted a few other things and now it's putting out more HP and torque. They did have to purchase a program for it to work. There is a thread on here about it.
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try reading the part number when you get at the module behind the panel below steering wheel. that number should tell you where it came from. then you should be able to see if it can be reprogramed keep us advised
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i never have scanned my wifes.
Good morning
I know rick you had yours done but the process can only be done if you purchase certain software to achieve success. by the way how does it run.
the code reader has a fuse under the seat see if that is blown, i had this problem.
My pcm came from a v8 van:xzqxz:
Dragon
I know rick you had yours done but the process can only be done if you purchase certain software to achieve success. by the way how does it run.
the code reader has a fuse under the seat see if that is blown, i had this problem.
My pcm came from a v8 van:xzqxz:
Dragon
rocket1lf
450+ Posts
Runs great. I get 30-32MPG up and down the mountains out here running at 70MPH+/-. If I'm on flat roads at that speed, I can get as much as 35MPG, but that doesn't happen very often. It's mostly around 30MPG. Yep, mine was from a V8 van and they were using half of it. If I remember right, timing was set at 10-11 degrees because of it being a van PCM and it was brought up to 21-22 degrees.
He thought we could get it up to 24 degrees without pinging, but I said I wanted to be conservative to keep it from pinging. The fuel mixture was adjusted and the shift points were slightly adjusted. It has 55000 miles on it now and it doesn't burn any oil between my oil changes at 5000 miles. If you remember, I did change the compressor, check valve and pressure valve for the airbags and I'm loosing only about 2 pounds if I don't start it for 2 weeks. I still love it. Rick
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tom under the hood right side towards the back of the engine under the bars. you really have to look for it
I will take a look for it , Thanks , I own a DynoJet Dyno and I do Custom Tuning with SCT Software and going to take a shot at Tuning it , 180 deg Thermostat , Fan setting , Trans settings , MPG etc and see how it goes
I work with the Duratec 2.0 , 2.3 , 2.5 In the Focus so I know the Engine very well and build them NA over 200whp and Boosted over 700 whp street Cars. Not looking to do that here but I know I can improve things a good bit
Tom
HedgehogRider
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So what is the part number on the pcm? Anyone just swapped in one programmed for a ranger?
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No you can not just swap the ECM's. The shift points will be all wrong most important.
HedgehogRider
5+ Posts
Maybe the shift points will be off but the computer would be more easily programmable. Is the computer the single or triple plug style?
rocket1lf
450+ Posts
When they reprogrammed my computer, we found out it was out of a Ford V8 van and TBM was only using one side of it. The shop did buy a program, I had to pay for it, to be able to get into it to reprogram it. I don't remember what it looked like, but it is inside the panel below the steering wheel. Rick
HedgehogRider
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My theory is they did that because those computers did not have the PAT system natively incorporated. Has the guy who did yours done others? Can you share his info? I have seen your post across multiple threads and think the community would be interested in being able to tune these.
rocket1lf
450+ Posts
My Stallion is the only one he did. He was in the Phoenix area, he's retired now. You should be able to find a speed shop, with a dyno, in your area that should be able to do what you want. Rick
HedgehogRider
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Seems like a bunch of people have tried without luck. It would be awesome if you could reach out and at least figure out what software was required that way we could bring that info to other shops.
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Something to remember there were only about 800 Stallions built total. Out of that I have only heard of 2 that tried to have the ECM worked on. Only about 100 or so Stallions ever joined this group. So not many people to draw from. I believe what you already have been told is about it.
A new Stallion has not been sold in 11 years. Parts from TBMS a sub division of Motor Trike out of Texas are scarce. Not much there. Unless you can find someone to try a mod of their own you will probably not find a canned program out there.
Good Luck
rocket1lf
450+ Posts
It's a 2.3 liter Ranger motor. From my understanding, there are plenty of programs out there to tune this engine. Any speed shop, with a Dyno, should be able to get this information. The shift patterns were changed slightly when it was on the Dyno. Rick
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