Compensator Bites The Dust

Sep 20, 2009
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Mike
My dad had the typical bad compensator bang when he shut the trike off, he still has extended warranty so we loaded it up into the trailer and took it to the fine folks at Harley Davidson of Jamestown NY. The service manager agreed it was shot we left it so they could confirm it and replace it if needed. Today we picked it up with the new compensator installed, as we thought the original one was shot at 36,000 miles. They also replaced a missing and broken front motor mount bolt.
 
Mike...What happens to the compensators?..They have the Se version from factory dont they?...Im not familiar with the newer style compensators, but the old style ones seemed to never wear out..Whaddup?? Poor design or ??..HB
 
did the 2009s triglides have the screaming eagle conpensator on them or did that start in 2010??
 
Hmmm, motor mount bolt, I recall early on befor I did motor work on wifes TG that she lost the right front mount bolt and spacer, the one the goes in the head. Was yours the same one?
 
did the 2009s triglides have the screaming eagle conpensator on them or did that start in 2010??

The SE Compensator 83935-09A was started on the TG series in 2011. The 40296-06A was used in 2009 and 2010.

Looked through all the years part reference to check this out... pretty sure about it.

My 12 compensator is very noisy and clunks like crazy. Nothing like my CVO.
 
you will start to hear knocking noise from the primary area when you start off and then you put a strain on the motor. also may hear knocking when you shut down from the primary. you will know it when you hear it.
 
The SE Compensator 83935-09A was started on the TG series in 2011. The 40296-06A was used in 2009 and 2010.

Looked through all the years part reference to check this out... pretty sure about it.

My 12 compensator is very noisy and clunks like crazy. Nothing like my CVO.

The compensator PN's for 09 - 11 where 83935-09 and the PN for 2012 is 83936-09a, the spring pack for 09 - 12 is 83936-09. PN 40296-06A is the compensator assembly for the 2 wheel touring from 09 - 10, for the 2011 MY they switched the entire touring line to the SE compensator.

compent.jpg
 
Good people down there at Jamestown, N.Y. Did you put in the SE one??

The SE one and as it came are one in the same, just a little update for 2012. They installed the SE one because they had it on hand vs ordering the parts.
 
Mike...What happens to the compensators?..They have the Se version from factory dont they?...Im not familiar with the newer style compensators, but the old style ones seemed to never wear out..Whaddup?? Poor design or ??..HB

They come with the SE one from the factory, the ramps will start getting a divot worn into them. The design isn't a good one, it doesn't get the lubrication it needs and is sensitive to what lubrication is used. This is the sprocket an ramps from my 2010, they showed some wear as you can see on the spokes of the sprocket but were still serviceable at the time I had them out, so I put them back in.

sprocket3.jpg
 
Hmmm, motor mount bolt, I recall early on befor I did motor work on wifes TG that she lost the right front mount bolt and spacer, the one the goes in the head. Was yours the same one?

Yep the same one, going to make it a habit to check them often from now on.
 
My top motor mount bolts & spacers fell out down at the Ralley in MV this year. The motor mount put a nice gouge in the rocker box. I found one Bolt & washer at the entrance to the motel. The HD shop replaced everything when I got back. They don't put any loctite on anything. That should be automatic. Had to have new jugs installed a couple weeks ago. Don't know if they put loctite on the motor mount bolts or not. 2011 Tri-glide.
 
The compensator PN's for 09 - 11 where 83935-09 and the PN for 2012 is 83936-09a, the spring pack for 09 - 12 is 83936-09. PN 40296-06A is the compensator assembly for the 2 wheel touring from 09 - 10, for the 2011 MY they switched the entire touring line to the SE compensator.

compent.jpg

I looked at both the MY Tech and the New Parts Ref from 2009 to 2012. The numbers I gave were the only compensator numbers I found. 83935-09A google came up with this...

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/downloads/Service/isheets/-J05457.pdf

The thumbnail picture is from the MT 2012 New Parts Ref... was it superseded?
 
Heres a pic of a used one for sale on ebay...I can see why its for sale...Lotsa wear showning on it...Ya suppose if a person was to put 45 ounces of oil in {manual states 45 dry, 38 wet} , that the compensator would maybe get the oil it needs to prevent premature wear???
:Shrug:
 
Heres a pic of a used one for sale on ebay...I can see why its for sale...Lotsa wear showning on it...Ya suppose if a person was to put 45 ounces of oil in {manual states 45 dry, 38 wet} , that the compensator would maybe get the oil it needs to prevent premature wear???

:Shrug:

Not only this side but the sprocket side and lots of wear..Not sure if its only a lubrication problem or a parts issue..Maybe both??

Guess I will wait for the day to happen with the clunk and go from there..but for now the bike is running real good..
 
I do know while I was on my trip and when I left Yellowstone I was concerned about it. It just kept getting worse and I kept my fingers crossed that it would hold together until I got home.
 
My top motor mount bolts & spacers fell out down at the Ralley in MV this year. The motor mount put a nice gouge in the rocker box. I found one Bolt & washer at the entrance to the motel. The HD shop replaced everything when I got back. They don't put any loctite on anything. That should be automatic. Had to have new jugs installed a couple weeks ago. Don't know if they put loctite on the motor mount bolts or not. 2011 Tri-glide.

You might want to put a wrench on them from time to time just to make sure they stay tight, I know I'll look at the ones on my dads a lot closer.
 
I looked at both the MY Tech and the New Parts Ref from 2009 to 2012. The numbers I gave were the only compensator numbers I found. 83935-09A google came up with this...

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/downloads/Service/isheets/-J05457.pdf

The thumbnail picture is from the MT 2012 New Parts Ref... was it superseded?


I hit the parts books to get the PN's and then the 2011 MY tech bulletin to find the change for all Touring to the SE compensator. The funny thing is the PN's in the parts books are not the same PN as the SE compensator and if you buy the one using the PN from the parts book it will cost more money than buying the SE compensator.
 
Heres a pic of a used one for sale on ebay...I can see why its for sale...Lotsa wear showning on it...Ya suppose if a person was to put 45 ounces of oil in {manual states 45 dry, 38 wet} , that the compensator would maybe get the oil it needs to prevent premature wear???
:Shrug:

I wouldn't buy that one, if I had to buy one I'd buy new vs used.
 
Not only this side but the sprocket side and lots of wear..Not sure if its only a lubrication problem or a parts issue..Maybe both??

Guess I will wait for the day to happen with the clunk and go from there..but for now the bike is running real good..

I believe it is both causing the issue, sooner or later the MoCo will have to get with it and fix the problem. I know of one guy who has installed 3 of them so far on his 2010 Ultra with a 120R.
 
The 2009 touring service manual shows the regular one on the 2009 touring bikes..The 09 TG service supplement manual shows the SE design on tri glides...by 2012 they all have the SE design...Dynas,sloptails and touring..Now that all bikes got em, can you imagine how many are clunkin and wearing out prematuerly???The MOCO should be doin a recall, but then again, that costs $$$, so they will only have to replace ones under warranty and stiff the others with no warranty....Thx God, I got 4.5 yrs ext W left....Hb
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