Cams And Comments

[trikermutha]

I know we all run all kinds of cams..

What I like to know is anyone out there running the woods TW222 or the Andrews 57H cam. Like to know if anyone has them in there Trikes and any numbers for torgue or horsepower would be great

The TW 555 seems to be a favorite for the Trikers also.

Any feedback is welcome..ThumbUp

 

[msocko3]

Quite a few cams out there to choose from, Head Quarters HQ500, HQ525, Tman 555 Torqster, of course the Wood TW555, & TW6. By the looks of it the Wood TW222 should work as should the Andrews 57 which is more or less a TW37 pumped up. There are folks running the Redshift 575 in 103" bagger with no complaints.

Coming up with dyno charts with them in a trike is like searching for a needle in a hay stack. You can find sheets of the cams run in baggers but it could be tough to determin how the cam will work with the exhaust we are stuck with on the trikes. Lot of guys running 2:1 or duels on their baggers. An exhaust can make or break a combination.

 

[flynng]

Running Andrews 57H in an 08 California Sidecar Conversion. They create loads of low end torque and don't run out till way beyond where I like to shift. Had to add an AIM VP lockup to the clutch basket after cause the clutch would slip, even cold. Also punched up to a 103.

Great set up.:10:

Enjoy the Ride.

 

[Trykman]

i have run the se 255 in my last two trikes 103 motor and they work good but on start they stall some times does anyone know where there is a dyno for a trike in florida and is thattw555 cam for a 103
thankstrykman

 

[Gorilla]

i have run the se 255 in my last two trikes 103 motor and they work good but on start they stall some times does anyone know where there is a dyno for a trike in florida and is thattw555 cam for a 103
thankstrykman

Under the dyno thread check out 427dave post for a dyno near inverness fl

 

[trikermutha]

the TW555 will work on a 103

 

[Oldmsocko]

I have the Woods 555 cams in my Tri Glide and I am very happy with them.

 

[Livin2Ride]

I have the Woods 555 cams in my Tri Glide and I am very happy with them.

:10: on the TW555.

 

[trikermutha]

When can you feel the TW 555 cam kick in at what RPM?? and how far up the band can you feel the power when excellerating?

 

[Livin2Ride]

Maybe a picture is better than words to answer your questions.

Sam

 

[trikermutha]

Maybe a picture is better than words to answer your questions.

Sam

Thanks..Nice lookin data..

 

[Oldmsocko]

Maybe a picture is better than words to answer your questions.

Sam

Looks like my dyno sheet.

 

[msocko3]

Looks like my dyno sheet.

Real close, here's yours. Green is yours with the SE255 cams and blue is the finished tune with the TW555 cams.

 

[trikermutha]

Maybe a picture is better than words to answer your questions.

Sam

Was that torgue number over 100?? Sure looks great to me...What else besides the cams did you do? Header,Mufflers etc I bet??

 

[trikermutha]

Real close, here's yours. Green is yours with the SE255 cams and blue is the finished tune with the TW555 cams.

what else did you do to get the numbers?? besides the cam??

 

[Livin2Ride]

Was that torgue number over 100?? Sure looks great to me...What else besides the cams did you do? Header,Mufflers etc I bet??

Other than the cams it has the SE Air Cleaner with the K&N filter, Rush true dual headers and Rush mufflers with 2 inch baffles at that time. I have since trashed the Rush mufflers for a set of SE Fatshotz and a minor retune. I am very happy with the way it sounds and runs now. We ride 2 up mostly and pull a trailer on long trips. I just did 4000+ miles from MO to Montana and back with the trailer and averaged 27.5 mpg. Not great, but acceptable.

Sam

 

[msocko3]

what else did you do to get the numbers?? besides the cam??

The cam, a screamin eagle stage 1 air cleaner and the SE 4" mufflers. Might have been able to get more with some more time fiddling, but I was looking to have a conservative tune that wasn't so fuel picky.

 

[trikermutha]

thanks guys....great info..

 

[KRUZR]

Maybe a picture is better than words to answer your questions.

Sam

Am I reading the graph properly? Over 100 lbs of torque @ 2500 rpm. It's a 103 cu, what else have you done to the motor? Nice graph? I want some!

 

[trikermutha]

Am I reading the graph properly? Over 100 lbs of torque @ 2500 rpm. It's a 103 cu, what else have you done to the motor? Nice graph? I want some!

see above post>>>

Yes it does look great..

 

[Livin2Ride]

Am I reading the graph properly? Over 100 lbs of torque @ 2500 rpm. It's a 103 cu, what else have you done to the motor? Nice graph? I want some!

Yes you are reading that right. At least that is what the paper says. See post 16 above. Trike has stock motor with only cams, Air Cleaner, Headers and Mufflers changed. The tune is a good one and it was recently "updated" after the muffler change by tuning on the fly.

Overall I am very happy with it and the best part is seems to handle just about any gas without pinging. While in Montana I had to buy some realy low grade gas and I dosed it with octane booster, but it ran great all the time.

Sam

 

[msocko3]

Yes you are reading that right. At least that is what the paper says. See post 16 above. Trike has stock motor with only cams, Air Cleaner, Headers and Mufflers changed. The tune is a good one and it was recently "updated" after the muffler change by tuning on the fly.

Overall I am very happy with it and the best part is seems to handle just about any gas without pinging. While in Montana I had to buy some realy low grade gas and I dosed it with octane booster, but it ran great all the time.

Sam

The chart looks good, I wonder what kind of numbers it would turn out on a Dynojet DJ250ix dyno. I've heard the Dynomite dynos show 5 - 10% higher numbers than the Dynojet DJ250. The biggest thing is your happy and it is more tolerant of lower quality fuels. I might have missed it, what tuner did you go with?

 

[Livin2Ride]

The chart looks good, I wonder what kind of numbers it would turn out on a Dynojet DJ250ix dyno. I've heard the Dynomite dynos show 5 - 10% higher numbers than the Dynojet DJ250. The biggest thing is your happy and it is more tolerant of lower quality fuels. I might have missed it, what tuner did you go with?

The tuner is the SE Pro. I have always assumed that different dynos are likely to show different results, but in the end all you want is a good tune with good results and I think I have that. I was really happy when I lost the Rush mufflers and went with the Fatshotz and with a little tweaking on the tune she runs better than ever.

I didn't post the chart to brag about the numbers, but was trying to answer the question posed on the TW555 by showing the power curve.

Sam

 

[KRUZR]

Maybe a picture is better than words to answer your questions.

Sam

Am I reading this chart correctly,, 112 lbs of Torque @ 2500 RPMs? just by adding a TW-555. Any other engine adds? I believe I saw a chart like that after a Fuel Motto 107 build with Jackpot exhaust using the TW-555 and 10:25 too 1 compression?

 

[msocko3]

I didn't post the chart to brag about the numbers,

I didn't figure you did, I threw that out for other peoples benefit. There are folks who live and die by dyno numbers and then start wondering why they don't get the same results out of the same parts. There are a hand full of dyno manufacturers and none will put out numbers that will match the others, I would think they all could get together and come out with a standard. Heck even Dynojet older models vs the newer model have a 10% difference between them, the older ones give larger numbers.

 

[Oldmsocko]

I didn't figure you did, I threw that out for other peoples benefit. There are folks who live and die by dyno numbers and then start wondering why they don't get the same results out of the same parts. There are a hand full of dyno manufacturers and none will put out numbers that will match the others, I would think they all could get together and come out with a standard. Heck even Dynojet older models vs the newer model have a 10% difference between them, the older ones give larger numbers.

That's pretty simple then. Use the older one and you will be happier.

 

[Gorilla]

I to get around those same numbers with my Police 103. S and S 510G cams, air cleaner true duals and the old style SE mufflers. No problems with the lower octane fuel. Reference the Dyno's there are so many variables, tempature outside, humidity the tuner. You can take the same bike and do a run one day and then the same bike on the same dyno another day and the results will be different because of the variables that can not be controlled.

Like Mike says the bottom line is get it tuned the best you can and if it runs great then you are done. A couple of HP or LBS of torque change from day to day.

100 plus HP/LBS from a 103 with just those changes is very possible.

 

[msocko3]

100 plus HP/LBS from a 103 with just those changes is very possible.

The sad thing is the old CVO 103 made those numbers with just an air cleaner, pipe and tune. I saw many of CVO 103's make either 100/100 or darn close to it without cracking into the engine. I made it a point to torment the Customer service guy when I was bringing up the lack luster performance of my then new Triglide, he didn't know what to say, I think I caught him stone cold without a snappy come back to offer up in their defense.