Bronze scrapings found in oil

Bronze shavings found in the oil and diagnosed from a thrusher washer coming loose...needed to replace the engines...6400.00...this trike has only been serviced by Harley, had 30,000 highway miles and always kept in climate control garage.

Anyone else have issues?

Also, the plastic trunk latch just broke? Go figure? A $50,000 bike with plastic!!!
 
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I had a problem like yours on my 07 Streetbob

The engine destroyed it self

Lots of brass in the oil

Too much crank run out was the problem
 
Jim and Trish... sorry to hear of the problems. I want to welcome you to TrikeTalk. Hope everything gets straightened out soon. Lots of knowledgeable folks here who will gladly answer any questions they can.
 
Welcome to the forum from Pennsylvania. Sorry to hear of the issues pray you have it repaired before it blows up. :good: Good luck Fred
 
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Welcome to TT Jim & Trish and greetings from Long Island.

I feel your pain. Went through a couple of trunk locks on my ‘10 TG. Engine rebuilt at 86k miles under warranty. Lousy job so now 50k later, literally ordered a new engine this afternoon. Non HD shop will be doing the paid work this time. They showed me the crank shaft with scoring on is from bearing working out and similar scoring on brass fitting right where oil comes through. With bushing slipping, oil redirected away from where needed. Words you never want to hear from a mechanic with 15 years experience, “I’ve NEVER seen this happen like this before”.:confused:
 
“I’ve NEVER seen this happen like this before

That is exactly what a factory rep said to me when my 96 inch engine blew up

I showed him the brass looking material I saved from the oil change

This crap ruined the inside of every oil passage and sand blasted the pistons

note, the piston cooling jets were completely plugged
 
That is exactly what a factory rep said to me when my 96 inch engine blew up

I showed him the brass looking material I saved from the oil change

This crap ruined the inside of every oil passage and sand blasted the pistons

note, the piston cooling jets were completely plugged

When ever a mechanic says to me ....I've never seen that before....I tell them write it down, So this way when the next guy comes in with that problem 'You can say yes i've seen that before..... ;);)
 
When ever a mechanic says to me ....I've never seen that before....I tell them write it down, So this way when the next guy comes in with that problem 'You can say yes i've seen that before..... ;);)

Bob, I have turned wrenches all my life and taught 2 classes, I can honestly say there are things about mechanical work that I have not seen before, specially with electrical.

Case in point, the book says in order to change spark plugs on v6 Nissan engines you MUST remove the plenum. This is NOT true, I have done them, in fact Sunday I did here for a neighbor, she said the dealer told her they have never seen it and did not believe it. I gave her back all 6 spark plugs including #1 cylinder that had never been changed in 171, 0000 miles;)
 
Bob, I have turned wrenches all my life and taught 2 classes, I can honestly say there are things about mechanical work that I have not seen before, specially with electrical.

Case in point, the book says in order to change spark plugs on v6 Nissan engines you MUST remove the plenum. This is NOT true, I have done them, in fact Sunday I did here for a neighbor, she said the dealer told her they have never seen it and did not believe it. I gave her back all 6 spark plugs including #1 cylinder that had never been changed in 171, 0000 miles;)

Jack a few years ago this Harley dealer moved from north to Central jersey so I took a ride over there to take a look at his new shop and while I was in the service department there's three or four of his workers doing a Chinese fire drill around a Tri glide it seems they were backing it up a ramp and tripped the circuit breaker 😱 So nonchalantly I asked him do you have a lot of trouble with those reverse motors? he said no they just tripped the circuit breaker we never had problems with them' that's funny i said I pulled mine out three times and I finally found the guy off the parkway near here That can rebuild them for me ' no sooner did I say that he says to me can I have his number I have a couple in back that have to be rebuilt ! So much for they never have a problem with them!

The are all taught to deny deny deny ....
 
Jim and Trish welcome aboard. Sorry about the motor. You might want to consider a 110 long block instead of a rebuild. Have them put high torgue cams in. won't cost that much more and the difference will be worth it.
 
Some lubricants have been known to attack yellow metal leading to premature failure.Not saying this is the case here.The rivets in Sportster spring clutch plates are notorious for "grenading" as some owners try all manner of concoctions in the primary.Good ole Formula + does no harm.
 
Harley trained MMI

Harley wants every one to believe their mechanics are "technicians" that have all the answers. Most have never seen a knuckle, pan, shovel, or maybe even an evo. They are taught computer diagnostics fixes everything, "all i have to do is check the diagnostic code". I had my brake lights stay on and cruise control not working, 125 miles from home. Called dealer, gave them the code and was told it was an ecm problem. Stopped at another hd shop, explained my problem, "old timer" immediately said its your brake switch. $38 part, $45 labor and fixed. Just remember HD means hundred dollars.
 
Brake switch

HD mechanic pointed out that the brake switch is right above the brake pedal, between front cylinder and exhaust pipe. He keeps several in stock because the beat eats them up. Prior to this i had been stuck in traffic, 97° day, 1 1/2 hours to go one mile through Georgetown after Rolling Thunder,DC. Only high point was watching two wheelers doing the "feet up -

go one yard- feet down" Made me content having my FW.
 
Harley wants every one to believe their mechanics are "technicians" that have all the answers. Most have never seen a knuckle, pan, shovel, or maybe even an evo. They are taught computer diagnostics fixes everything, "all i have to do is check the diagnostic code". I had my brake lights stay on and cruise control not working, 125 miles from home. Called dealer, gave them the code and was told it was an ecm problem. Stopped at another hd shop, explained my problem, "old timer" immediately said its your brake switch. $38 part, $45 labor and fixed. Just remember HD means hundred dollars.

With my 2011 Tri, That was a recall....While i waited N/C.....:Shrug:
 
Brake switch recall

I sometimes check nhtsa.com for recalls and complaints. Didn't see any recalls for 15fw. I worked as a vehicle fraud investigator and learned about, what was called a "silent recall", or called a service bulletin. If it is not a safety issue, it is up to the manufacturer to notify owners, Yeah- Good LUCK WITH THAT.
 
I sometimes check nhtsa.com for recalls and complaints. Didn't see any recalls for 15fw. I worked as a vehicle fraud investigator and learned about, what was called a "silent recall", or called a service bulletin. If it is not a safety issue, it is up to the manufacturer to notify owners, Yeah- Good LUCK WITH THAT.

I never knew there was a recall/service bulletin, I just happened to be at the dealer kicking tires when the service manager walked by and asked did you do the recall on the brake switch told him no i didn't know anything about it....Hang on he said and we'll do it right now...
 
Recalls and service bulletin

Just went into WWW.NHTSA.COM site, choose vehicle, type in year and then Harley Davidson. It will give all models. Only pain is everytime you go back you have to again choose vehicle etc
 
Welcome Jim & Trish to TT and greetings from Long Island.

My '10 TG may have had similar problem at 86k miles when I blew engine. Rebuilt under warranty with same crappy casings. Blew engine again recently at 136k. Replacing engine on my dime now. Completely disgusted with HD these days. Had I not rebuilt tranny at 130k, I would have just moved on to another brand.
 
Unannounced recalls

You can have the best shop mechanics in the world, but if you're forced to fix overpriced bikes made with inferior materials at exorbitant labor costs, you will lose your customer base. I've been on HD for 35+ years and I am feed up with the "Motor Company" . I may be moving to ... Dare I say it...Metric
 
You can have the best shop mechanics in the world, but if you're forced to fix overpriced bikes made with inferior materials at exorbitant labor costs, you will lose your customer base. I've been on HD for 35+ years and I am feed up with the "Motor Company" . I may be moving to ... Dare I say it...Metric

Agree, and thats why there will never be a Harley in my grarge again...:mad:
 

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