Alec Baldwin debacle
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bikerbillone
3000+ Posts
Oh yeah, that's the way it goes, the rich guy ain't taking the fall.
ItBeMe
200+ Posts
Not unless one has a death wish.
Jack Klarich
Guest
We need to find out who owned the gun and why it was on the set
MikeyTX
Dead animals deserve balloons...
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- #38
Also said several hundred live rounds were recovered. Makes no sense. Why would there be such a need when in this day and age muzzle flash and sound can be edited in. I can understand the need for an actual antique 6 shooter. What I cannot understand is as they were simply rehearsing, not filming, why not use a rubber or plastic hand gun.
Do you remember on the rifle range When the fire safety officer in the tower yells 'Ready on the left....And before he could say ready in the right some knucklehead lets off a round....And then the whole range is shut down till they can find the knucklehead...
How about ...After we are all done shooting...And when they do the no brass or ammo inspection ...And when another knucklehead opens the action' A live round fly out..
And then there's the one real idiot who takes a live round into the barracks for a souvenir.......Guns are smart....Some people are Stupid....:gah:
And theres the live hand-grenade range.....And a few times someone would drop it while pulling the pin out and the instructor would have to kick it into the chute to the blast box...
Some Marys as soon as they pulled the pin would panic and drop it...Also i would love to see anyone even John Wayne pull a pin out on a real grenade with their teeth...Ain't happing....
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- #43
I have the feeling it won't end well, the person responsible for safe keeping of the weapons will be blamed, as well as the person who assumed the gun was 'Cold' and handed it off and the dumb actor for assuming it wasn't loaded. Why were the cast members bringing live ammo and shooting cans? Someone is going to get bit on the @$$ for this. This is from the news: https://www.krqe.com/news/new-mexic...dditional-information-in-fatal-rust-shooting/
Using your question,did someone set him up. Mr Baldwin broke a couple major rules for gun safety.1st NEVER point a gun at anyone unless you are prepared to shoot them. 2nd Always check the gun even if someone tells you its not loaded, so there are many questions to be answered. My heart goes out to the family of the lady who was killed ,but I have no compassion for Mr Baldwin .
Moved it I see.
Yep......Didn't want to a-fend someones sensibilities.....[Again]...
...And then there's the one real idiot who takes a live round into the barracks for a souvenir.
It wasn't exactly for a souvenir, but a lot of the 'missile security' guys pocketed live rounds at the range. Many a night we'd get sent out to check out an inner zone security alarm 2, maybe 3 in the morning and there's some critter that's slipped between the gate post and the fence post setting off an alarm. You can try to chase the critter back out the (open) gate, but rarely does that work. We'd almost always have to shoot them to get them to stop setting off the alarms. And you have to return the same number of rounds you were issued when you checked out your weapon or there's a problem of explaining where that round went. So, nobody got a perfect score that the range.
PC
It wasn't exactly for a souvenir, but a lot of the 'missile security' guys pocketed live rounds at the range. Many a night we'd get sent out to check out an inner zone security alarm 2, maybe 3 in the morning and there's some critter that's slipped between the gate post and the fence post setting off an alarm. You can try to chase the critter back out the (open) gate, but rarely does that work. We'd almost always have to shoot them to get them to stop setting off the alarms. And you have to return the same number of rounds you were issued when you checked out your weapon or there's a problem of explaining where that round went. So, nobody got a perfect score that the range.
PC
In a few years when the movie Rust Is completed , People will pay to see it in theaters and he will have extra money to pay off his lawyers..Maybe even nominated for an Oscar for realist Cinematography..
And no-one will care either [Or is it Aye-The] Way....He's the hero of Saturday night live...
The show thats worshiped by the Man bun Female Nose ring crowd...
And no-one will care either [Or is it Aye-The] Way....He's the hero of Saturday night live...
The show thats worshiped by the Man bun Female Nose ring crowd...
Jack Klarich
Guest
I dunno Bob, I think Hollyweird has had Enuff of this clown and his obnoxious outburst all the time, He is bad for their squeaky image
When i pulled Sargent of the Guard [Stateside]....The only sentries that i had to issue live rounds to were the PX...Motor pool ...And the Ammo dump..They carried the 45, And only 7 rounds each...21 total ...And a few times when i collected the rounds it would be short...And my Lieutenant told me he didn't care.. All He said was i gave you 21 rounds by hook or crook i want 21 back...So i would jump in a jeep run to the ammo dump and commandeer...What ever i needed to keep things quiet...
Jack Klarich
Guest
Baldwin as a producer and actor failed to follow industry standards with the weapon as did all who handled the weapon and said it was clear old a cold gun
A low budget movie behind of schedule and union members walking off the set did not help this disaster
No live ammo on a set is also supposed to be a industry standard
A low budget movie behind of schedule and union members walking off the set did not help this disaster
No live ammo on a set is also supposed to be a industry standard
Like life its self ...Whats supposed to be doesn't always happen to be...Thats called Complacency..... I haven't heard anything about this, But just thinking out loud here i wonder if theres any Alcohol on the set during lunch breaks The stagehands were shooting/plunking at cans in the desert ....:Shrug:..
Jack Klarich
Guest
Fox did report there was drinking the night before while they were shooting @ cans and bottles, also one report said they had been shooting during lunch break the day of the shooting fatality so the gun being used could not have been cleared by the armorer, the assistant director nor Baldwin himself as per industry standards
Baldwin is toast, and he should be. Firearm safety cannot be delegated, period. Even in the movie industry where there are (supposed to be) others who check props for safety, the final responsibility rests on the guy pulling the trigger. Others may be charged with negligence and suffer a career ending event. But there is no defense for pointing a gun at another person and pulling the trigger without first personally checking the status of the weapon.
I will bet my next SS check that Baldwin will blame others and will not take responsibility for his actions...... Jim
I will bet my next SS check that Baldwin will blame others and will not take responsibility for his actions...... Jim
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