Adding Harley TPMS to Tri-Glide

[cycle7447]

Your 21 model has 2 clutch adjustments, the clutch basket ( same as in the past with cable pull clutch) and the new spring assist ( POS IMO) cable adjuster

They are cheaply made and are going to break, it is just a matter of time

Here is a link to a very good looking fix

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https://fatbaggers.com/ez-clutch-adjustor-upgrade-kit

Hopefully it is just an adjustment problem

You guys are a wealth of information. I too hope it is just an adjustment matter.

Took the unit in on Sunday - was scheduled for service on Monday. There were several things being done - adding XM radio, putting a fender light on the front (HD removed that light in 2021), oil change, fender trim around the light and then the bottom fender trim. Plus, of course, the clutch.

Was given an estimate of 6 hours total. I thought they were starting first thing Monday AM. Got a call at 11:30 on Monday - wanted to know what kind of oil I wanted. About 30 minutes later, got a call asking if I wanted the XM radio on top of the dash (I had given them a picture of how I wanted in - next to the vent). So, this means, they probably didn't start until noontime.

Called later in the day to see if they were done and was told it would probably be finished on Tuesday. Asked if they had done the clutch as this is my worry - they didn't know and wanted to know if they should grab the tech. I said no - just wanted them to keep moving.

Wife and I talked - we are ready to ride. Feel confident that the Harley guys can fix whatever it is. As far as the TPMS, we may wait until this winter to get all of that worked out - just want to get on the road.

Meanwhile, what I might do it take the rear motorcycle wheel to a local Discount time or Belle Tire - see if they can read the TPMS is that wheel. If they can, it may give me some idea as to how I can move forward with putting that sensor in the right rear of the trike.

CSC says my rear tires should be around 22 psi. That TPMS for the motorcycle rear is set at 40. Have to ask the dealer if that can be changed to say 20

 

[cycle7447]

Not having a good day yet.

Dealer has installed my XM - said all good there. They called to leave a message - letting my know if would cost extra to remove the running boards to get to the clutch - dah. By the time I got back to them, it was a bit late. So, I stopped by the dealership - talked to the service manager and he said they will get to it late on Tuesday or Wednesday morning.

Right now, I am hopeful that this is an easy fix - didn't expect this sort of an issue with my new conversion on my bike with less than 800 miles on it.

While at the dealership, I asked about the TPMS - they cannot or will not disengage it. Actually, this sort of makes since to me. So, back to part of my original question - since CSC is doing conversions, why on earth have they not considered/found a way to resolve this.

Tons of suggestions here and I would really like to know - who has actually resolved this. I've heard, put the old one in my tire, buy a new one and put in in the tire - who has made it work.

When I asked the dealer about putting the old one in his response was - OK, but, if you do that, the bike will be looking for 40 in the rear and the tire will only have 22 in the rear. So, I asked - can you reset it so that the bike is only looking for 22 and, got a no answer. I just am not sure anymore.

Maybe I will just go to Discount Tire - take my old bike tire - see if they can read that TPMS. If they can, see what it says on their screen. Then ask them if they can change the bike to read 22 in the rear.

 

[rhino 2]

Not having a good day yet.

Dealer has installed my XM - said all good there. They called to leave a message - letting my know if would cost extra to remove the running boards to get to the clutch - dah. By the time I got back to them, it was a bit late. So, I stopped by the dealership - talked to the service manager and he said they will get to it late on Tuesday or Wednesday morning.

Right now, I am hopeful that this is an easy fix - didn't expect this sort of an issue with my new conversion on my bike with less than 800 miles on it.

While at the dealership, I asked about the TPMS - they cannot or will not disengage it. Actually, this sort of makes since to me. So, back to part of my original question - since CSC is doing conversions, why on earth have they not considered/found a way to resolve this.

Tons of suggestions here and I would really like to know - who has actually resolved this. I've heard, put the old one in my tire, buy a new one and put in in the tire - who has made it work.

When I asked the dealer about putting the old one in his response was - OK, but, if you do that, the bike will be looking for 40 in the rear and the tire will only have 22 in the rear. So, I asked - can you reset it so that the bike is only looking for 22 and, got a no answer. I just am not sure anymore.

Maybe I will just go to Discount Tire - take my old bike tire - see if they can read that TPMS. If they can, see what it says on their screen. Then ask them if they can change the bike to read 22 in the rear.

There’s is no way a dealer will change a 40 to a 22 PSI remember the Firestone tire Ford Explorer fiasco of a few years ago..! That’s the main reason for TPMS…

 

[cycle7447]

There’s is no way a dealer will change a 40 to a 22 PSI remember the Firestone tire Ford Explorer fiasco of a few years ago..! That’s the main reason for TPMS…

Sorry, I don't recall the Firestone tire Ford Explorer incident - will try to look that us.

Still have to wonder what the CVO TriGlide reads - does it say 36 in the front and 40 or 22 in the rear.

Heck, maybe this is just something I will have to live with - because I decided to go to a CSC conversion. At least folks here will know that there is some conversation and perhaps CSC will be a little more upfront about this

Still like to hear more from folks that are saying they have done it - or that it can be done

 

[ROAD DOG]

tpms

I have my 2021 Indian Roadmaster with A CSC kit, it has ABS, the light does not come on, when I check my tire psi it just reads the front the rears are just blank, No lights no problems . Call CSC See what they say

 

[ROAD DOG]

Randy

Randy does A lot of CSC kits ask him

 

[cycle7447]

Randy does A lot of CSC kits ask him

Yes, I understand Randy does quite a few. Don't want to throw my installer under the bus - he told me he contacted CSC and they said there is not a fix.

Still my most immediate concern is the clutch - hopefully my dealer can tell me what is going on today.

If not completely worked out - maybe they can take it to Arlington and get everything fixed.

 

[rhino 2]

Yes, I understand Randy does quite a few. Don't want to throw my installer under the bus - he told me he contacted CSC and they said there is not a fix.

Still my most immediate concern is the clutch - hopefully my dealer can tell me what is going on today.

If not completely worked out - maybe they can take it to Arlington and get everything fixed.

The only fix would be if a tire company made tires with a 22 psi rating...I put 25 psi in my rear tires on my 2019 Tri Glide...And when i bring it in to the dealer for service they give it back to me with 36 psi.....It is a legal/liability thing....

 

[cycle7447]

The only fix would be if a tire company made tires with a 22 psi rating...I put 25 psi in my rear tires on my 2019 Tri Glide...And when i bring it in to the dealer for service they give it back to me with 36 psi.....It is a legal/liability thing....

Does your 2019 Tri Glide have TPMS? If so, when you reduce it to 2, doesn't the light come back on?

 

[rhino 2]

Does your 2019 Tri Glide have TPMS? If so, when you reduce it to 2, doesn't the light come back on?

My 2019 doesn’t have TPMS…. I keep the rears at 25..And the front at 36… every once in a while I checked the pressure in the tires with my air gage that seems to work out well..

 

[cycle7447]

I called to check on my trike on Wednesday - apparently, they have not looked at the clutch yet. Was told that because of the rain here, they could not test drive it - but would do so on Thursday. I am certain that getting bike work done this time of the year is difficult.

Wife and I are hopeful - seems we are losing a bit of our short riding season. Trust me, it killed us with all of perfect riding days last week.

Not trying to throw any blame - especially with the dealership. I do however have a few other concerns - but, will wait until we see what's up with the clutch.

 

[cycle7447]

Just got off of the phone with the dealership - the clutch is completely burned up.

They will see if they have the needed parts - and get me scheduled to fix this. Now, it looks like sometime next week.

Wanted to ask what caused the problem - then said to myself, I don't work on bikes and this is why I go there for service. My goal is to make sure this does not happen again. So, hopefully when they get it in, they can see if something on the trike kit is causing the problem.

On a good note, I talked with both the installer and CSC - both said this will be taken care of.

 

[Jack Klarich]

The only fix would be if a tire company made tires with a 22 psi rating...I put 25 psi in my rear tires on my 2019 Tri Glide...And when i bring it in to the dealer for service they give it back to me with 36 psi.....It is a legal/liability thing....

un trained techs @ that dealership, the owner's manual clearly spells out the PSI for front and rear tires

 

[cycle7447]

Just got off of the phone with the dealership - the clutch is completely burned up.

They will see if they have the needed parts - and get me scheduled to fix this. Now, it looks like sometime next week.

Wanted to ask what caused the problem - then said to myself, I don't work on bikes and this is why I go there for service. My goal is to make sure this does not happen again. So, hopefully when they get it in, they can see if something on the trike kit is causing the problem.

On a good note, I talked with both the installer and CSC - both said this will be taken care of.

OK - dealership has the needed parts to install the new clutch. I wondered if I needed something upgraded since the kit was installed. Service manager said when properly installed, this should hold up to 115 ft pounds. So, glad I have no idea what he means.

I am scheduled for Wednesday, 5/25 - unless someone cancels.

 

[ROAD DOG]

OK - dealership has the needed parts to install the new clutch. I wondered if I needed something upgraded since the kit was installed. Service manager said when properly installed, this should hold up to 115 ft pounds. So, glad I have no idea what he means.

I am scheduled for Wednesday, 5/25 - unless someone cancels.

Did you ever get to ride it after it was triked

 

[cycle7447]

Did you ever get to ride it after it was triked

Bike now has 821 miles on it. Installed delivered it to me. Wife and I got dressed - took off to the dealership and immediately noticed it was not disengaging. So, I rode it about 20 or so miles.

I may have asked this before - where in MA? I use to live in Attleboro. Can't see your bike - is that an Arrow kit? Buddy of mine in Attleboro is getting an Arrow for his Indian in July. I plan to meet him in Arlington.

 

[ROAD DOG]

Bike now has 821 miles on it. Installed delivered it to me. Wife and I got dressed - took off to the dealership and immediately noticed it was not disengaging. So, I rode it about 20 or so miles.

I may have asked this before - where in MA? I use to live in Attleboro. Can't see your bike - is that an Arrow kit? Buddy of mine in Attleboro is getting an Arrow for his Indian in July. I plan to meet him in Arlington.

My shop is in Thorndike 15 miles east of Springfield, yes its a Arrow, who is doing his kit , I bought mine from Moms in Manchester N H already triked, I bought it and have never from them Cence the day I bought it .

 

[cycle7447]

My shop is in Thorndike 15 miles east of Springfield, yes its a Arrow, who is doing his kit , I bought mine from Moms in Manchester N H already triked, I bought it and have never from them Cence the day I bought it .

If I recall, he got his Indian from Moms in NH. He called them about doing his trike and they wanted over $4500 to do it.

So, he is actually taking his to Arlington to the CSC factory. When ready, I will leave my home in Michigan and meet them there probably the night before he picks it up. While there, CSC will change the tires on my tiike - they didn't have the ones I ordered - but they are now in stock and he will make the swap

 

[ROAD DOG]

If I recall, he got his Indian from Moms in NH. He called them about doing his trike and they wanted over $4500 to do it.

So, he is actually taking his to Arlington to the CSC factory. When ready, I will leave my home in Michigan and meet them there probably the night before he picks it up. While there, CSC will change the tires on my tiike - they didn't have the ones I ordered - but they are now in stock and he will make the swap

Hes better off going To CSC. $4500.00 labor ?

 

[ROAD DOG]

I may have asked this before - where in MA? I use to live in Attleboro. Can't see your bike - is that an Arrow kit? .[/QUOTE]

Look In Indian trike pictures

 

[cycle7447]

I may have asked this before - where in MA? I use to live in Attleboro. Can't see your bike - is that an Arrow kit? .

Look In Indian trike pictures[/QUOTE]

Nice - yes, he is having it done at CSC

 

[cycle7447]

I have been asking this question - not sure I got the answer I was looking for.

So, on the TriGlide Harley site, I asked someone to share the TPMS on their CVO. Guy gave me this picture and I believe this is exactly what I am looking for.

I don't think the CVO TriGlide radio is any different that the regular radio - so, if such is the case, I have to believe that all would work if I added two sensors to my CSC trike.

Am going to head to my dealership and show then this picture - try to get some ideas or at least some questions answered. I also sent this picture to CSC - not sure they are aware. They too may have some idea. Might be as simply as having to but the Harley sensors - think they are about $200 a set ad opposed to about $25 each for regular car sensors. Just might be something different for the Harley ones.

May also stop by my local Discount Tire and get their opinion

 

[cycle7447]

I visited the dealer today - and believe I may have gotten the best possible answer.

Fisrt the radio in the CVO TriGlide and my bike are one in the same. Technician explained that a chip in the BCM may be the reason my bike only reads front and back instead of front and two rear tires. He also says that chip would make the rear read 24 or so instead of 40.

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He is not sure if Harley will sell that chip and if son, it can be installed in my bike. If it does, that would solve my problem and he can program the bike to read both. They do sell the Harley TriGlide TPMS sensors - about $118 each - not sure f the car sensor would work with the Harley software. He said it may be like the Sena audio vs the Harley audio.

I will keep thinking about this - and also share what I learned with CSC. Perhaps this knowledge will help them determine a way to fix this and they can add TPMS to our wheels

 

[ksuvalk]

Aftermarket TPMS on 2014 HD Trike

I picked up the sykik tpms system and it was working great until on a longer trip the front tire tpms came off somewhere. After getting and putting on a replacement, I noticed that it likely came off on the front because the external sensor rubs against the brake caliper assembly during rotation. Didn't even think to check that

I don't want to mess with an internal sensor (aftermarket) because you would have to take everything off and put back on when replacing the sensor battery. Seems like a lot of effort!

Guess I will just use the back 2 sensors.

I wonder if I could find a shorter valve stem ?

Or maybe there is another aftermarket vendor sensor that is lower profile ?

 

[rhino 2]

I picked up the sykik tpms system and it was working great until on a longer trip the front tire tpms came off somewhere. After getting and putting on a replacement, I noticed that it likely came off on the front because the external sensor rubs against the brake caliper assembly during rotation. Didn't even think to check that

I don't want to mess with an internal sensor (aftermarket) because you would have to take everything off and put back on when replacing the sensor battery. Seems like a lot of effort!

Guess I will just use the back 2 sensors.

I wonder if I could find a shorter valve stem ?

Or maybe there is another aftermarket vendor sensor that is lower profile ?

Kevin….Welcome to Trike Talk…..

 

[cycle7447]

I picked up the sykik tpms system and it was working great until on a longer trip the front tire tpms came off somewhere. After getting and putting on a replacement, I noticed that it likely came off on the front because the external sensor rubs against the brake caliper assembly during rotation. Didn't even think to check that

I don't want to mess with an internal sensor (aftermarket) because you would have to take everything off and put back on when replacing the sensor battery. Seems like a lot of effort!

Guess I will just use the back 2 sensors.

I wonder if I could find a shorter valve stem ?

Or maybe there is another aftermarket vendor sensor that is lower profile ?

Kevin - welcome and, thanks for your post. Please tell us/me more about the TPMS system you got. s this integrated with your radio or something completely separate?

Can you please share some pictures.

 

[Gorilla]

donald they have their own display. the display has a rechargable battery and has auto start and auto off, i mounted mine on the handle bar and can read it without issue.

 

[cycle7447]

donald they have their own display. the display has a rechargable battery and has auto start and auto off, i mounted mine on the handle bar and can read it without issue.

Thanks - I am trying to keep mine within the system

 

[ksuvalk]

Kevin - welcome and, thanks for your post. Please tell us/me more about the TPMS system you got. s this integrated with your radio or something completely separate?

Can you please share some pictures.

Yeah here's some more info and pics. The one pic I forgot is that there is a monitor that I mounted on my bars and the monitor is what pings the three tire sensors and gives me a display of tire pressure, tire temp, and any warnings I have configured.

As the pics show, there is very little clearance on my '14 Tri-Glide between the valve stem cap and parts of the brake caliper assembly. So you can imagine that when the tire sensor is on the valve stem, it's just bigger enough that it is hitting against that caliper assembly. When I had the sensor on, and manually rotated the tire, I could see it hitting just a bit against the caliper assembly. So I'm guessing that's why both the sensor and its little locking nut both disappeared mid-ride.

Other than this issue, I am pleased with the TPMS system. You can also get internal vs external sensors, but this requires that you take off the wheel and tire and replace the valve stem needle stuff which is a lot more work than just screwing on the external sensors.

I will still research if I can get a slightly shorter valve stem for the front tire- that would likely solve this issue for me.

 

[ultrafxr]

There are differences of opinions / experiences as regards the screw on tpms valve stem sensors . . . but most manufacturers say to not mount on rubber valve stems. I know the sensors weigh very little but when spinning at highway speed the weight is amplified and can lead to valve stem failure. I researched this previously and looked into metal valve stems but could not find any that were acceptable for the non-CVO TG rims. Again I know some folks have purchased and used metal valve stems but I personally know of several failures - slow air leakage because they did not conform properly to the rim.