+1.5 Oil Pan to Reduce Engine Heat

[hdruss]

I've read the threads regarding reducing engine heat and wonder if anyone sees any merit to increasing oil capacity in addition to proper tuning as a solution to the problem. As an ABATE member I have supported Politicians that support Motorcyclists by riding in parades, but it gets to be very uncomfortable with all the engine heat at slow speed. I'm interested in installing a Baker Drivetrain +1.5 oil pan if it will prove cost effective.
Any thoughts or experiences you can share will greatly appreciated!! Russ

 

[delta]

Not an oil pan but the easiest most cost effective way I reduced temps was to install the FCS by WardsPartsWerks.

 

[trikermutha]

there was a thread on this in the past..remember something about the rear belt rubs the +1 pan..may want to check this issue out first and see if this was resolved..??..

Has your bike been tuned yet and the cat removed?? I would do this first before the oil pan..

 

[hdruss]

I had the TG Dyno'd right after I got it in '09 but am looking for a location near Chgo to address the heat issue. JColson was kind enough to give me a recomendation for one near me. I talked to a rep at Baker Drivetrain and the said they addressed the issue with trikes and are now compatible. I haven't found anyone who has had one installed to get real world feedback!!

 

[GARYD]

Yes, the extra oil will help keep the oil cooler - not a whole lot.

I was thinking on doing the same thing - until I saw the price - I almost choked. That was a deal breaker for me, but if money is no object to you then go for it.

I did other things to lower the heat. I'm comfortable now riding in 100+ degree weather.

 

[hdruss]

You're right - the cost is making me rethink this approach also!!

 

[rhino 2]

Don't be shy, What is the price.:Shrug:

 

[trikermutha]

see if these guys can helps you out

Engines By Otto

 

[trikermutha]

You're right - the cost is making me rethink this approach also!!

it may cool the oil temps but you will still have the heat off the pipes..

 

[hdruss]

The price is $695 = to a good Dyno tune

 

[eagle1]

i installed a baker plus 1 oil pan on ,y '09 tri glide. now i can put in 4 1/2 qts of oil
with a oil filter change (drag long filter. ) the drive belt rubs the oil pan slightly.
like i can spray a coat of paint on the side & the belt will rub it off. i've got 12k on the trike since installing the oil pan and there isn't any damage to the belt. did have the dealer adjust the belt. 7 CALLED BAKER & TOLD THEM & they said they were re- designing the oil pan for the t/g. i can't see how they can do that because the side of the oil pan is flush with the upperbody of the transmission. just like the OEM oil pan.
oh! the scavenger oil drain system won't fit the baker oil pan.
baker oil pan the inlet & oil outlet is at the opposite ends of the oil pan. better oil circulation. they also saib they were going to try & design a oil scavage system for the baker oil pan.

 

[sandrooney]

Turn your engine guard into an oil cooler and it holds 1qt. My 02 EGC MT conversion is that way and it holds 5 qts of oil. It was that way when I got it so don't know what it was like before. It doesn't seem to be running hot.

Make sure you take it to a radiator shop and have them flush it out.

SR

 

[hdruss]

eagle1 - Thanks, this is the kind of info I was looking for. Did you notice a difference after you installed it?

sandrooney - Wow what an inovative solution. Any pictures you can share?

 

[trikermutha]

I would use a fan assist oil cooler versus the pan..The pan need to have air blow across it to help cool the oil. With the fan assist oil cooler you can run in parades while keeping the oil cooler.

Just my thoughts..

i may go with the ULtra OIL COOLER -Reefer on my Tri Glide..

 

[hdruss]

The fan assisted oil cooler could be a viable solution in combination with a good Dyno tune.

 

[Sloufoot]

Turn your engine guard into an oil cooler and it holds 1qt. My 02 EGC MT conversion is that way and it holds 5 qts of oil. It was that way when I got it so don't know what it was like before. It doesn't seem to be running hot.

Make sure you take it to a radiator shop and have them flush it out.

SR

That might work, but that would be nice to bump against on a nice hot day with 250* oil inside. Besides I wouldn't want that blowing on my legs all day....
Also why doesn't Baker put some cooling fins on that pan ? All it has is ribs like Harley. NOT A HEATSINK ! :Trike1:

 

[Sloufoot]

I've read the threads regarding reducing engine heat and wonder if anyone sees any merit to increasing oil capacity in addition to proper tuning as a solution to the problem. As an ABATE member I have supported Politicians that support Motorcyclists by riding in parades, but it gets to be very uncomfortable with all the engine heat at slow speed. I'm interested in installing a Baker Drivetrain +1.5 oil pan if it will prove cost effective.
Any thoughts or experiences you can share will greatly appreciated!! Russ

You can put 10qt pan on & unless it has an innovative way to get rid of the heat in the oil, all you are doing is making it longer before the oil reaches the same temps. Maybe a little lower just because of mass area of the pan. Baker doesn't put cooling fins on the pan so air can dissipate the heat.
For instance why does the radiator on your car have fins instead of just a solid block ?? It has to cool something ! Go with the Ultra cool & The Wards fans !
Just another thought, wrap your exhaust pipes, & make sure to wrap the crossover behind & almost against the oil pan. :Trike1:

 

[Sloufoot]

Another thought, check the front drive sprocket on your belt drive. If it is a 32 tooth consider changing to a 30 tooth. HD changed this in 2011. It will give you a better parade idle speed, & also help a lot with hills.
You & Yours
Ride Safe

 

[msocko3]

see if these guys can helps you out

Engines By Otto

Otto is one sharp dude, he can sure make an bike run. Unless he made changes I don't think his dyno will do a trike.

 

[eagle1]

dealer took 1 hr to adj the drive belt. look & see if yours is rubbing.

 

[eagle1]

hope this helps

 

[hdruss]

Well I've got a lot to think about. I really appreciate all the input I've received. I'm going up to Michigan today for a week. I hope to get my snowmobile ready. I don't seem to have any heat issues with it (LOL).

 

[eagle1]

i use a jagg universal oil cooler.the oil temp is usually under the 220*
(HD says is normal operating temp for the twin cam. ck & see if your drive belt is rubbing. i use a .25 feeler gage. i posted more pics. earlier, but the posting hasn't been uploaded. maybe they need to be screened. i'll ck later & re upload them if needed. don't want to bouble post. dealer toot 1 hr. to adj. the drive belt. ext. warrenty doesn't cover adjustments. if my oil temp gets near 240 t0 260.in town. i go for a short shoot on the freeway to cool it down. also when i park the trike i have a big fan setting on the rt. side of the bike & i turn it on hi. & 10 min later the bike is cool to touch.

 

[eagle1]

the '09 t/g came w/o a CAT. so with the big oil cooler, temps are generally under 220*

 

[eagle1]

see if you can install a fan on your existing oil cooler. if you remove the lowers that will let a-lot more air get to the engine. &with the engine temp management system you have on your t/g ; the eng will go into limp mode if the eng temp gets too high.as you know.
you need a ECM controller. from the factory the eng. is lean, & needs to be ricnened up
for better performance & more fuel to the eng, means cooler eng temps.
i chose revolution performance. cost a-lot more, but its a (send ecm to factory& they adj. it) and i did it after i installed a S&S 510 GEAR CAM . AND AM HAPPY WITH IT.also go to a high quality oil. like red line 20x60 syn oil . only 20x60 i can find. i get mine from HARPWORLD.COM ; & also ude the shockproof gear lube that red line offers. there are other great oils that are waaaaaaaaay better than sny 3.