Jack Klarich
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Were you riding in rain when the problem happened?
Cripple Mode
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Were you riding in rain when the problem happened?
If he was passing a tractor trailer at over 90 miles an hour in the rain then it was probably a sign from God to slow down
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Nope. Beautiful Saturday morning about 7:30AM and a bit cool.
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If he was passing a tractor trailer at over 90 miles an hour in the rain then it was probably a sign from God to slow down
God's already given me two warnings. One when I walked away unscathed after running my 1700cc Triumph Storm into a telephone pole. The second when I dropped a Triumph Speedmaster into a farm field at 60 mph and got up untouched. Gotta figure He was saying "Get a third wheel and stop riding Triumphs." I listen to what He says.
Just a thought from far left field… your ECM code… many modern processors come with a throttle mode built in. This happens to many laptops and desktops. If the processor gets too hot it will throttle on its own. You’re going fast, the engine gets very hot and if on a hot day I’m wondering if this may have been what happened. While many folks cool the jugs no one things of cooling the ECM.
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Thanks. It was 7 or 7:30AM with temp in the upper 60's, low 70's. Leather jacket and gloves in the mountains. It was chilly.
Jack Klarich
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Just for grins, have you checked your battery connections?
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The Negative side, it was tight. Can't get to the Positive terminal without moving the ECM as far as I can tell. Didn't want to risk that 5 states away from home.
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My last post about this was in August. Haven't had a minutes worth of trouble with it since, until this morning. Temps went above 50 so I was going to ride to my various errands. Pulled out of my driveway and went into limp mode. This time I made a note of the error codes:
ECM - P1511h & P2135h also ABS - C1100h.
The trike had been parked for the last week with the battery tender hooked up due to nasty weather. Had no issues when I parked it. I mean like what the hell happened just sitting in the garage?
ECM - P1511h & P2135h also ABS - C1100h.
The trike had been parked for the last week with the battery tender hooked up due to nasty weather. Had no issues when I parked it. I mean like what the hell happened just sitting in the garage?
Jack Klarich
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JT, those codes are both related to the throttle response, your trike has gone into limp mode again
I hate to say this but you may need deeper diagnostic from the dealer on this
The P2135 H is a historic code, it will keep coming back until the condition is resolved, Good luck and keep us posted here, this problem is getting more familiar as more miles are racked up
A long shot, your M8 may be sumping, I hope this is not the case
I hate to say this but you may need deeper diagnostic from the dealer on this
The P2135 H is a historic code, it will keep coming back until the condition is resolved, Good luck and keep us posted here, this problem is getting more familiar as more miles are racked up
A long shot, your M8 may be sumping, I hope this is not the case
Jack Klarich
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If you can run your engine til oil temp is is normal, shut engine down, pull crank sensor out, let the oil drain out. Replace sensor, measure the oil that came out
If more than 6 oz, you are sumping, if less than 6 you are within the HD range for oil in the crank case
Doing this test will rule out the sumping as the problem
Next test, I would disconnect the wiring @ the throttle actuator, clean the pins with contact cleaner, reassemble with light coat of dilectric grease. Does this make engine come out of limp mode?
If more than 6 oz, you are sumping, if less than 6 you are within the HD range for oil in the crank case
Doing this test will rule out the sumping as the problem
Next test, I would disconnect the wiring @ the throttle actuator, clean the pins with contact cleaner, reassemble with light coat of dilectric grease. Does this make engine come out of limp mode?
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Dale, nice catch. Yes apparantly cripple is considered a derogotary term according to wikipedia. Henceforth we shall call it Gimp Mode.
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I think it's electrical somewhere. I've seen a lot of posts elsewhere about this. Couple of people were killed when it happened and reports have been filled with the NHTSA. I could have been killed back in August when I was passing two tractor trailers. Today was just pulling out of my driveway. I prefer there not be a third time. Taking it to the dealership tomorrow. Going to be out of commission most of next week so might's well see if they can do anything productive with it.
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Was going to take it to the dealership today, but the service tech said don't bother. Said, this has been going on for 15 years and it could be any of 5 major sensors and replacing all them may not fix the issue. He did recognize the codes as historic, but they don't help with their diagnostics. Has to be current.
Told me the only way they can get a real take on the problem is wait till it happens again and don't restart the bike, then get it to them. (Hope it happens in my driveway again.) Basically, when it becomes a constant problem and not intermittent they can probably pinpoint the source.
One thing I do notice is that when it happened back in August it was upper 60's and damp in the early morning. Yesterday when it happened to me it was about 60 and damp. Since then it's been mid 60's and dry and it's been running great. Leads me to believe dampness is getting to a connector somewhere. Thoughts?
Told me the only way they can get a real take on the problem is wait till it happens again and don't restart the bike, then get it to them. (Hope it happens in my driveway again.) Basically, when it becomes a constant problem and not intermittent they can probably pinpoint the source.
One thing I do notice is that when it happened back in August it was upper 60's and damp in the early morning. Yesterday when it happened to me it was about 60 and damp. Since then it's been mid 60's and dry and it's been running great. Leads me to believe dampness is getting to a connector somewhere. Thoughts?
Jack Klarich
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Yes it could be for sure
You could, tho tedious unplug sensors, clean the terminals ( male and female) then reinstall them, then test ride in similar weather conditions
I would start with the ECM
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I got this from my dealership for my spark plug boots.
Information on the web on how and where to use it are all over the place. I see vids of guys filling connectors with it and then putting them back together and other's applying it with a Q-Tip painstakingly avoiding getting any on the connections. The instructions on the tube from Harley just say to clean the connections and "... apply Electrical Contact Lubricant to both male and female terminals. Assemble connectors." Should I be doing this on the ECM terminals? Is it good to do this for the other terminals or is it a waste of time, or worse, going to cause more problems?
Jack Klarich
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Just a light dab on the pins is all you need, on the plastic part that locks the connector I put some on also, it makes taking them apart next time a bit easier
Too much on any connector is a bad thing, I have seen light bulbs in sockets with too much dielectric grease it actually made a connection worse
I find putting the grease on the male ends is enough, as you reconnect the grease is distributed pretty good to the female connector- put some on the rubber gasket ( weatherpak connectors) it helps seal them
Typical weather pak gasket on a duetch connector
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