Tuner recommendations

[Al Corr]

I hate to beat a dead horse but I've been looking around, doing all the reading and would like to know what tuner everyone recommends and why.

 

[Jack Klarich]

I hate to beat a dead horse but I've been looking around, doing all the reading and would like to know what tuner everyone recommends and why.

Hi Al. What year Trike and what are you looking for the tuner to do?

Hands down IMO the Power Vision tuner is the best. It is capable of setting timing, adjusting fuel, idle speeds and recording. It also has gauges features. Have a look here for more info and do not hesitate to call for more info. Kevin and Devin have done a lot of testing with this tuner. I have a PV Tuner from D K and it is very user friendly. My 17 M8 Freewheeler was a test mule with this tuner @ D K Customs. You can see the results on their web site. Good Luck in your pick

https://www.dkcustomproducts.com/acl/overview-of-popular-efi-tuning-options.htm

 

[NHBAGGER]

Are you going to do the tuning or a shop?

If you, PV maybe more user friendly.

If a shop is going to do it, check with them.

 

[Mykneesbehurtin]

What NH Bagger said.

 

[Fearless]

Well there are several available

The one I use is a Power Vision from Dynojet, Easy to use very effective and more than just a tuner it has become information central for our old Shiney Engine temperatures gear selection Trip miles etc. etc. Support is really great as well tunes issues all come with a great reputation. Do yourself a huge favor check all of them your can and make an informed choice. Just saying I really like mine but I have not used any other I found no need to. Fred

 

[MB1953]

+1 to what Jack, Richard and Fred said about the PowerVision. It is a wonderful tool, with excellent support from both DK and DynoJet. After you try it, you will be sold.

 

[Longbeard71]

I have the Power Vison and it has done well.

 

[ROAD DOG]

The power vision is great , but if you have a 2020 and do anything more than mufflers and air cleaner , there are no tunes , do a 117 kit or cams nobody has a tune that will work for shit , then try to find somebody to tune it ?? on a 2020 buy a screamin eagle tuner and buy screamin eagle parts . maybe in a year or so somebody will come up with some tunes for the power vision , if you have 2020 dont buy from FUEL MOTO JAMIE CLAIMS ITS TO MUCH WORK TO MAKE A TUNE FOR A 2020 TRIKE ! ASK HIM Never MIND HE DOES NOT TALK TO CUSTOMERS ?

 

[GTK]

After trying to choose the best tuner for my 2019 FW,I choose the Vance and Hines FP3 Fuelpak tuner. Why, because it uses no wiring and all communication is wirelessly through Bluetooth on your Android or I-phone. It does everything a Power Vision can do plus it also has a auto tune feature,like PV, which fine tunes a map while riding. Plus Vance and Hines tech assistance is second to no one. The only negative thing is that it is married to your bikes vin and cannot be used again on another bike. I have used Power Vision on my 2016 and 2017 SGS and after comparing it with the FP3,I decided to spend the money on a easier and more features tuner. JMHO

 

[Al Corr]

Hi Al. What year Trike and what are you looking for the tuner to do?

Hands down IMO the Power Vision tuner is the best. It is capable of setting timing, adjusting fuel, idle speeds and recording. It also has gauges features. Have a look here for more info and do not hesitate to call for more info. Kevin and Devin have done a lot of testing with this tuner. I have a PV Tuner from D K and it is very user friendly. My 17 M8 Freewheeler was a test mule with this tuner @ D K Customs. You can see the results on their web site. Good Luck in your pick

https://www.dkcustomproducts.com/acl/overview-of-popular-efi-tuning-options.htm

I have a 2016 tri glide with a stage I air cleaner and maybe slip-ons someday. I'm looking for a simple tuner I can do myself.

 

[Fearless]

I believe the PV instructions are about as good as the get. If you have issues call the help number.

 

[Wmitz]

The power vision is great , but if you have a 2020 and do anything more than mufflers and air cleaner , there are no tunes , do a 117 kit or cams nobody has a tune that will work for shit , then try to find somebody to tune it ?? on a 2020 buy a screamin eagle tuner and buy screamin eagle parts . maybe in a year or so somebody will come up with some tunes for the power vision , if you have 2020 dont buy from FUEL MOTO JAMIE CLAIMS ITS TO MUCH WORK TO MAKE A TUNE FOR A 2020 TRIKE ! ASK HIM Never MIND HE DOES NOT TALK TO CUSTOMERS ?

I have a 2020 trike with a PV tune from FM sitting in the tool box, I haven’t used it yet due to a ongoing issue with warranty. I would have no qualms putting into the trike. The rdrs took a little time for the companies to figure out, but they, FM, tune bikes all the time with rdrs. With previous bikes, I’ve talked to Jamie a few times, always pleasant, and helpful.

 

[ROAD DOG]

I have a 2020 trike with a PV tune from FM sitting in the tool box, I haven’t used it yet due to a ongoing issue with warranty. I would have no qualms putting into the trike. The rdrs took a little time for the companies to figure out, but they, FM, tune bikes all the time with rdrs. With previous bikes, I’ve talked to Jamie a few times, always pleasant, and helpful.

What did you do to your 2020 A muffler and a air cleaner element ?? They do not have a trike DYNO Look at there maps see if you can find a tri glide map ?? Put a 128 kit in yours and ask Jamie for a tune ??? They can tune 2 wheel bikes , They can not tune 2020 TRI GLIDES . If your big buddies with Jamie get me a tune ?

 

[Wmitz]

What did you do to your 2020 A muffler and a air cleaner element ?? They do not have a trike DYNO Look at there maps see if you can find a tri glide map ?? Put a 128 kit in yours and ask Jamie for a tune ??? They can tune 2 wheel bikes , They can not tune 2020 TRI GLIDES . If your big buddies with Jamie get me a tune ?

All I did was email Jamie, he asked me to get the ecm info with the pv, I sent that to him, and in three days I had a tune sent to me. That simple, I believe it’s the ecm strategy that is important for the base tune, and the rest is computer generated based off of 2 wheel tuning, of course, any map that is sent has to be dialed in anyway. I joked a couple times on FB with FM about a trike dyno, maybe they will put one in the new building they just started working on. In the meantime Sheffer Performance does trikes and there are a couple of others around as well. I am considering the 128 kit, lol, but have my reservations about the ability of the triglide to handle that much torque and hp over a long period of time. I don’t think the aftermarket warranty will cover damage from overpowering the drivetrain either. I’ll think about some more during the winter, lol.

When you email FM, include your customer #, I’m sure they will help you out.

 

[ROAD DOG]

All I did was email Jamie, he asked me to get the ecm info with the pv, I sent that to him, and in three days I had a tune sent to me. That simple, I believe it’s the ecm strategy that is important for the base tune, and the rest is computer generated based off of 2 wheel tuning, of course, any map that is sent has to be dialed in anyway. I joked a couple times on FB with FM about a trike dyno, maybe they will put one in the new building they just started working on. In the meantime Sheffer Performance does trikes and there are a couple of others around as well. I am considering the 128 kit, lol, but have my reservations about the ability of the triglide to handle that much torque and hp over a long period of time. I don’t think the aftermarket warranty will cover damage from overpowering the drivetrain either. I’ll think about some more during the winter, lol.

When you email FM, include your customer #, I’m sure they will help you out.

I have called Fuel moto many time's, I have Emailed, I have texted They can not send me a tune , the 2 wheel tunes will not work with my 2020 , I was told that by Bob & Even. When I bought all the parts from them Bob & Even they said no problem we will get you a tune that will work ? Then when the motor was done they spoke To Jamie He says he has no trike dyno and he can not do it ? Thats what I was told . I found a shop that will do it, I will wait till spring, remove the woods cam and FM head pipe and go from there . The trike will handle the extra power , Im sure if you go doing dead stop wheel stands , dead stop burns outs you will blow it up .

 

[ROAD DOG]

All I did was email Jamie, he asked me to get the ecm info with the pv, I sent that to him, and in three days I had a tune sent to me. That simple, I believe it’s the ecm strategy that is important for the base tune, and the rest is computer generated based off of 2 wheel tuning, of course, any map that is sent has to be dialed in anyway. I joked a couple times on FB with FM about a trike dyno, maybe they will put one in the new building they just started working on. In the meantime Sheffer Performance does trikes and there are a couple of others around as well. I am considering the 128 kit, lol, but have my reservations about the ability of the triglide to handle that much torque and hp over a long period of time. I don’t think the aftermarket warranty will cover damage from overpowering the drivetrain either. I’ll think about some more during the winter, lol.

When you email FM, include your customer #, I’m sure they will help you out.

What upgrades have you done to your trikes motor That Jamie made you a tune ? Maybe your tune will work with my trike ?

 

[RKplus10]

Al, you stated, air intake and maybe slip ons. Have you considered XIEDs or VIEDs by Nightrider? I never used them, but some friends are pleased with them when only making minor modifications to their bikes. Maybe worth a look-see.

Be safe everyone!

 

[Wmitz]

What upgrades have you done to your trikes motor That Jamie made you a tune ? Maybe your tune will work with my trike ?

Stock improved tune, no mods, yet.

 

[Al Corr]

Al, you stated, air intake and maybe slip ons. Have you considered XIEDs or VIEDs by Nightrider? I never used them, but some friends are pleased with them when only making minor modifications to their bikes. Maybe worth a look-see.

Be safe everyone!

I have the FL-ViED-10 now and was told it would throw codes in a year or so.

 

[DOKK]

After trying to choose the best tuner for my 2019 FW,I choose the Vance and Hines FP3 Fuelpak tuner. Why, because it uses no wiring and all communication is wirelessly through Bluetooth on your Android or I-phone. It does everything a Power Vision can do plus it also has a auto tune feature,like PV, which fine tunes a map while riding. Plus Vance and Hines tech assistance is second to no one. The only negative thing is that it is married to your bikes vin and cannot be used again on another bike. I have used Power Vision on my 2016 and 2017 SGS and after comparing it with the FP3,I decided to spend the money on a easier and more features tuner. JMHO

I went with the FP3 myself and think it's perfect for just about anybody, beginner, intermediate or advanced. It made my bike better just by loading a map to match my components. I may look at auto tuning next spring/summer but I'm not even real sure about that. I did make a few other minor adjustments as well to increase performance but it has a lot more than I will ever need or use.

 

[ROAD DOG]

I removed my Power Vision , and installed a Thunder Max auto tune , got it from Cycle Solution's They asked what was done to the motor and for my V I N number 3 day's later had it in the mail , installed it the other night Road it today 250 miles, It is the best it has ever run, everything is better more power, rideability , better M P G , it auto tune's itself every time you shut it off and restart it changes the map from the last ride . At first it would ping in 6th gear ran a little rough got better every time I shut it off and restarted it. Really great people compared to dealing with FUEL MOTO . Thunder Max list was about $1100 Cycle solution's was $849. free shipping

 

[Wmitz]

RD, glad you found a solution. Which header are you running? I’ve done the a/c, decatted header, cvo muffs with 2” Fullsac cores, and the breather bypass, tuned up fairly easy with the PV. Still doing a few timing adjustments though.

 

[ROAD DOG]

RD, glad you found a solution. Which header are you running? I’ve done the a/c, decatted header, cvo muffs with 2” Fullsac cores, and the breather bypass, tuned up fairly easy with the PV. Still doing a few timing adjustments though.

Vance & hince X pipe & Bassani mufflers I have about 4500 miles on the new motor

 

[Bouncer]

Power Vision

I removed my Power Vision , and installed a Thunder Max auto tune , got it from Cycle Solution's They asked what was done to the motor and for my V I N number 3 day's later had it in the mail , installed it the other night Road it today 250 miles, It is the best it has ever run, everything is better more power, rideability , better M P G , it auto tune's itself every time you shut it off and restart it changes the map from the last ride . At first it would ping in 6th gear ran a little rough got better every time I shut it off and restarted it. Really great people compared to dealing with FUEL MOTO . Thunder Max list was about $1100 Cycle solution's was $849. free shipping

I use Power Visions for every Harley I own because of the price point and I can tune multiple bikes with 1 tuner (license purchase). The auto tune is built into the Power Vision only for bikes with oxygen sensors. Auto tuning can be confusing with a Power Vision because it must be manually activated and deactivated. I've heard Power Vision just recently (as I write this) been able to tune 20 and up motorcycles. This could have been the problem you were encountering.

I completely agree with your choice to install the Thunder Max. I've only used 1 because the motorcycle involved had a turbo and Thunder Max will retard timing under boost, Power Vision won't.

The tuning for the turbo bike was flawless with the correct base map. The Thunder Max did all the fine tuning automatically and still is every time it gets ridden.

Thunder Max is a great product. I don't believe you can tune multiple motorcycles with it so it get's pricy if you own a few modified, injected bikes.

 

[nokkon wud]

my 2013 was running as lean as I've ever seen a motor run. Hot too!

I bought it used at 7k miles.

I found a set of the fl veids already on it so obviously they were not working so I picked up a V&H FP3. Amazing difference with a simple setup on my cell phone.

Going to auto tune in a couple weeks but I very much like the FP3 so far.

DeCat next.