Ride On question

[graygoat]

I see on the Ride On website, that they make one for motorcycles and ones for cars, suvs, ect. I also saw where they talked about using the car one for trikes, since there is no leaning. For those of you using Ride On, which product are you using? Using motorcycle in the front and automotive in the rear make any sense (or overthinking it)?

 

[rhino 2]

I see on the Ride On website, that they make one for motorcycles and ones for cars, suvs, ect. I also saw where they talked about using the car one for trikes, since there is no leaning. For those of you using Ride On, which product are you using? Using motorcycle in the front and automotive in the rear make any sense (or overthinking it)?

The Tri-Glide front tire is a motorcycle tire , The rear tires are considered car tires...

 

[graygoat]

The Tri-Glide front tire is a motorcycle tire , The rear tires are considered car tires...

Well aware of that, so the question was about using the moto product in front tire and the auto product in the rear tires? Ride On has a 3 tube kit of the auto product they say could be used in trikes. Just wondering what Ride On users are doing.

 

[PosseRider]

Is that stuff a mess when tire has to be changed ? I just use Dyna Beads in mine for balancing . I remember one product used a few years ago , when tire had to be removed was quite a mess. If I get a I flat just plug & pump up . The plugs are "mushroom" shape & will not come out ,once installed.

 

[desertclassic]

You are making me think to hard. I did some research in the past and I thought the product for autos were the one to use. I didn’t buy the product yet, may be selling the trike.

 

[rhino 2]

Well aware of that, so the question was about using the moto product in front tire and the auto product in the rear tires? Ride On has a 3 tube kit of the auto product they say could be used in trikes. Just wondering what Ride On users are doing.

Well i figure if the guys that make the product say it could be used in trikes , That would be the way to go...:Shrug:

 

[paws]

Well aware of that, so the question was about using the moto product in front tire and the auto product in the rear tires? Ride On has a 3 tube kit of the auto product they say could be used in trikes. Just wondering what Ride On users are doing.

I read over the Ride-On website pretty close and found a statement that said something like, although those are car tires on the backs of trikes, if it were their very own trike they would use the motorcycle product in those car tires. I called and asked about that statement and the person I spoke with told me that the motorcycle product seals faster than the car-tire product and that was why they made that statement. I purchased the motorcycle product for all 3 tires.

As to ride... if the trike has been sitting for a couple of weeks in the winter, then it has been my experience that it is a sort-of a bumpy ride for the first mile or 2 at highway speeds, while the product redistributes inside the tire. But after that it is smooth-sailing. At warmer temps I haven’t noticed the bumpy feel. But then I ride it usually once a week for at least 30 miles so the product hasn’t had time to settle. Also, on the their website they tell you that the puncture needs to be in the crown of the tire for the product to work. It won’t help if it is a sidewall puncture.

 

[Rooster57]

reply to graygoat

Hey graygoat!

Ditto on what Paws wrote!

..........I used the Ride on motorcycle juice on all 3 of my tri glide tires and have driven several hundred miles now (wheels were already balanced........put the recommended amount in anyway) ...........So far the stuff seems fine! (haven't had a flat yet or an issue and I hope I never do)...... ride just feels like nice smooth balanced wheels.

....bumpy ride the first few miles after install (It was cold outside when I first put my juices in tires)...But after that, this stuff seems to have gelled up nicely in tires and I don't even think about it anymore.

...........if you search around in youtube you will find a video or two of dudes that have broken their tires down and examined the Ride On product and how it actually rests in the tire in a semi-gel state and doesnt just blop out and spill all over the floor and stuff when tire is removed from wheel.........Thats what sold me! (we all know how that old green or latex crap does)

......this Ride on Sealer and Wheel Balancer juice seems to be good stuff (so far).

..........they say you can still plug the tire in the event of a flat (even with this juice inside tire) ....That will be interesting to see if that occasion happens (or when).

Best of luck!

 

[graygoat]

Thanks for the comments, guys.

I called Ride-On customer service, left a message and then they left me a message. Basically the message was to use the auto product in trikes and spiders, any 3 wheeler used only "on highway". Start with the recommended dosage and then add more if needed to smooth out the ride, do NOT use more than the "severe" amount. From what I can figure out the front tire would need 8oz (1 moto tube) and the rear tires would be from 13oz up to a max of 16oz. The auto stuff comes in 16oz tubes).

Been playing phone tag with the rep and I want to have a conversation with him before I order. So will see where this goes after that.

 

[Rooster57]

reply to graygoat

Hey Graygoat!

Your choice! ....if you go to Ride on website and click on order product, you will see the following insert regarding trikes:

Trikes are very unique and we get asked what formula is best?

Trikes and Can Am Spyders are a unique application - a hybrid between motorcycles and cars. We get lots of calls and e-mails from Spyder and other trike owners asking us what formula they should use. If we were installing it in our own trikes or Can Am Spyders, we would use the Motorcycle Formula. However, we understand why some of our customers would rather use the Auto Formula because they get twice the product for the same price. The Auto Formula should NOT BE USED in traditional motorcycle applications. The Motorcycle Formula is designed for fast accelerating, cornering motorcycles that lean when they turn. The Motorcycle formula is designed to balance and react to a puncture quicker than the Auto Formula. Also, becasue of the rounded (curved) tread area of motorcycle tires, they benefit from the viscosity and flow characteristics of the motorcycle Formula. We do understand that many trikes and Can Am Spyders use automobile tires which are very flat in profile and don't need to lean when they turn. Because of this, trike and Can Am owners can effectively use the Auto Formula. However, the overall sealing performance of the Motorcycle Formula will still be better in these applications.

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[hardheaded]

sounds like the motorcycle formula to me. i've used ride-on in my bikes for years now and won't run anything else in them. i wonder how much of the motorcycle formula is to be installed in the rear tires on a trike ?

 

[tfdeputydawg]

Is that stuff a mess when tire has to be changed ? I just use Dyna Beads in mine for balancing . I remember one product used a few years ago , when tire had to be removed was quite a mess. If I get a I flat just plug & pump up . The plugs are "mushroom" shape & will not come out ,once installed.

There is no mess with RideOn! You must have used Slime if you had a mess

..........they say you can still plug the tire in the event of a flat (even with this juice inside tire) ....That will be interesting to see if that occasion happens (or when). Best of luck!

Whose "they"?? There is no need to plug using RideOn

 

[Rooster57]

from Ride On website:

[h=1]Motorcycle Tire Sealant[/h] Motorcycle Repair Kits vs Replacement

Our company takes the position that any repair to a motorcycle tire should be treated as a temporary repair. We recommend that as soon as possible after finding an object in your tire, you have the tire inspected by a professional. If the recommendation is for fixing the puncture or replacing the tire, then you should do so. Ride-On will not interfere with the application of conventional tire plug and patch repairs, and can easily be washed out of tires with water.

 

[hogcowboy]

From what I understand, the only difference between the moto formula and the car formula is how fast the sealing action is. Since you only have two wheels on a bike the moto formula seals faster. It's the same otherwise. Now that's as I understand it. Your best answer would be from Ride-On though. We use the car formula on my wife's Spyder but it doesn't have a moto tire anywhere on it. If I was to do it on a conventional trike, for the few bucks difference and my life, I'd use the moto formula up front and the car out back. But I do understand the cost difference. It's not really peanuts but when you add your life part, that sorta changes things. That's just my personal opinion on the subject.

 

[bikerbillone]

I've used RideOn in my 2012 RoadSmith conversion since conversion, motorcycle formula in the front, car formula in the rear tires, for me it works, gives me peace of mind. The stuff is water soluble, does not contaminate. To me it makes little difference what formula you use, it will work as advertised.

 

[rhino 2]

Whenever i look up parts from Either J&R Or Dennis Kirk ,You type in what vehicle you have , And automatically when you klick on the part it will tell you if it fits your vehicle...

Don't think Ride-on gets many calls for their product for Trike's... Or the formular /instructions for use on trikes would not be so ambiguous.. For such a simple product you would think they would have a kit for trikes that use a bike tire on the front wheel..

IE ;One bottle marked for front , And two marked for rear...:Shrug:

 

[GARYD]

If this stuff is water soluble, what happens when you ride in the rain?? :Shrug:

Now I have the Centramatic front wheel balancer on my summer wheel. Just OEM weights on my winter wheel

Rear wheels standard wheel weights. With the tire expectancy of 60K miles, I'm not to fussy with them.

 

[rhino 2]

If this stuff is water soluble, what happens when you ride in the rain?? :Shrug:

....The stuff goes inside the tire , Not the out side.. If rain gets inside the tire you have a big problem .....:xzqxz:

 

[Rooster57]

"If this stuff is water soluble, what happens when you ride in the rain??"

Hummmmm, thats a great question Gary D...........I hadn't thought of that! ......well, I have no idea how all these tire sealer mfg co.'s chemically compound their products for rain applications, so "I shall have to rely on BLIND FAITH," it seems.............Oh well, I use it anyway!.....I "guess" they know what their doing.....I haven't had a potential flat yet in either rainy or dry weather....................I trust them completely!

Ps.

But, I still carry my HD air compressor and a plug kit on my trike at all times just in case i'm wrong....(don't tell anybody!)

 

[rhino 2]

"If this stuff is water soluble, what happens when you ride in the rain??"

Hummmmm, thats a great question Gary D...........I hadn't thought of that! ......well, I have no idea how all these tire sealer mfg co.'s chemically compound their products for rain applications, so "I shall have to rely on BLIND FAITH," it seems.............Oh well, I use it anyway!.....I "guess" they know what their doing.....I haven't had a potential flat yet in either rainy or dry weather....................I trust them completely!

Ps.

But, I still carry my HD air compressor and a plug kit on my trike at all times just in case i'm wrong....(don't tell anybody!)

Thats just being prudent....ThumbUpThumbUp

 

[GARYD]

Me too. I have an old Progressive kit that plugs into the spark plug hole. Fills tires instantly. No cartridges or compressor to lug around. They don't sell that set up anymore.



Here's a tip. Replace the rubber cement every year. Don't ask me how I found that out.

Go to Target and get a $1 rubber repair kit and toss the patches, keep the glue.

 

[graygoat]

Still have not been able to hook up with the rep at Ride-on, will keep at it.

At this point, I am thinking moto in front & auto in the rear. I am not hung up on cost. I think IF 8oz of the moto in front is the minimum, will probably get a 2nd tube. They should have put this in 12oz tubes to cover the min & max with one tube, sell more this way, I guess.

I would also like to know how much faster the moto seals vs the auto, just for my own info. 1.5x or 2x faster (all other factors equal)? And what is this in real time, seconds or minutes? I plan to ask the rep and will report back when I find out.

Thanks again for the comments guys.

 

[paws]

I carry that nifty mushroom style plug kit and a little air compressor — in addition to having Ride-On in my tires.

Even though I have read the instructions on both pieces of equipment - if I had a hole that the Ride-On didn’t fix, then by the time I dug them out of the trike, opened and read the instructions again, got the tire moved to a position where I could get to the hole, glance back and forth at the instructions, then tried to work the plug equipment.... honestly?....I think the roadside assistance would have had time to already arrive, take care of the problem, and have left. But that’s just me...

I sure hope my Ride-On takes care of the problem.

 

[Rooster57]

reply to graygoat

Hey Graygoat!

....Dude, just buy 6 bottles of the motorcycle tire stuff (Ride On)....then fill what you need on tires according to their charts......wouldnt worry if you gotta little too much or little in tires but try and fill close as they say........the motorcycle juice stops leak hole faster than car tire stuff (that's what they say).........you'll have a little left over! ....you'll spend almost a "c-note" but you'll have max protection!

.....Thats what I did on my 2016 triglide and now have several hundred happy miles!!!!

..............I believe you can order this stuff on Amazon too.(in fact, that's what I did) ....will have a little left over if you wish to keep for next time!

Cheers!

 

[bikerbillone]

Like Rooster said, 'go for it'. Keep your tires on auto balance and give you peace of mind. Public relations says it will make the tires last longer and get better mpg, but then I don't know about that. Here's a tip that might help get RideOn into the tire, I used a couple small flat pieces of wood and two clamps to squeeze the tube. I could not do it by hand. Maybe someone else has a better mouse trap.

 

[hogcowboy]

Like Rooster said, 'go for it'. Keep your tires on auto balance and give you peace of mind. Public relations says it will make the tires last longer and get better mpg, but then I don't know about that. Here's a tip that might help get RideOn into the tire, I used a couple small flat pieces of wood and two clamps to squeeze the tube. I could not do it by hand. Maybe someone else has a better mouse trap.

I poke a hole in the bottom and very VERY slowly add air. It will push the stuff right in. You can no longer save what's left but I've tried saving the stuff in a bottle without hole and never used it anyway.

 

[bikerbillone]

Excellent idea, thanks.

 

[Rooster57]

reply to Gary D

Amen to that, my brother! Replace that cement in your plug kit every year or so! (if you've ever used it - then throw it away as it will be dried out in the tube the next time its needed!)

..... I can't remember how many times during the years that I had to plug a tire and the glue in the kit was dried out!!!!....Always had to plug it anyway and did, but it made it very difficult!! (radial tire plug alone always stopped the leak....but really makes it hard without the slicky glue)

....... I once had a neighbor who worked for a tire co for years.....He swore that he was plugging a tire once and the plastic handle of the insert tool actually "Broke while push-twisting the plug into the tire," The rod then rammed into his hand so deep that he had to go to Dr.'s office fast! (Yuck,......man, what a grizzly picture that makes in my mind)

.....ever since he told me that story many years ago, I always am aware of that possibility when I plug a tire! (I do what I got to do, but I respect the cheap tool as best I can)

Anyway, glad you brought up the tire tool kit glue issue......I shall replace the glue in my kit this weekend!

Ride Safe!

 

[PosseRider]

I carry that nifty mushroom style plug kit and a little air compressor — in addition to having Ride-On in my tires.

Even though I have read the instructions on both pieces of equipment - if I had a hole that the Ride-On didn’t fix, then by the time I dug them out of the trike, opened and read the instructions again, got the tire moved to a position where I could get to the hole, glance back and forth at the instructions, then tried to work the plug equipment.... honestly?....I think the roadside assistance would have had time to already arrive, take care of the problem, and have left. But that’s just me...

I sure hope my Ride-On takes care of the problem.

That kit is the best out there. We used on a bud's bike. Took us about 20 min, no cement needed. Took longer to pump up using the engine attachment. I now have a small compressor. Trust me it is quicker than road service.

 

[graygoat]

Different guy from Ride-On called me today, said to use the moto product on a Tri in all 3 tires. Said the Spider, with 3 car tires, can use the auto product. So I will go with the moto stuff, will probably order 5 tubes so I can go over the minimum dose as needed. Will check on Amazon price and go from there.

Thanks for all the comments, guys!