No power, in reverse

[M2102]

Saturday ran some errands and went on ride with couple friends. No problems with reverse or power. On way home, stopped for a break and when I went to start my trike, nothing. No lights anywhere. Could put in gear and key on them rock it and lights would try and come on, only flickered. Did come on long enough to start with button and headed home. First thought was battery.

When i went to back into my shelter put in reverse light came on and hit the switch. Dimmed the lights and only couple clicks on starter and tried but wouldn't move, once more and died in reverse. Battery tested bad, replaced with new and nothing. No power and can't get out of reverse. New battery tested at 13.85. Checked the 2 solinoids next to battery and first checked same as battery. Stumped as what and where to check next. Looking for suggestions on what next. Need to get it out of rerverse so I can at least push it into my shed. TIA

 

[trike lady]

Cable may need to be adjusted.

 

[M2102]

That wouldn't cause loss of all power though. Going to check cables tomorrow.

Thanks for reply

 

[trike lady]

Check these relays in the box under the seat. See white arrows.

Swap them with ones of the same rating.

The cables would make the reverse not to work properly.

 

[Phu Cat]

See if disconnecting negative battery terminal will get reverse to unlock and allow you to push bike for the moment.

PC

 

[Phu Cat]

Interesting that after you had nothing, with bike in gear, you rocked it, lights flickered long enough for you to get it started. Bad ground maybe? How many miles are we talking about on this bike and its old battery?

I think the bike is pushable even tho the reverse light is on if you have help. FWIW, when I'm going to use my reverse, after pushing the reverse "mode" button and before pressing the reverse power button I bring the RPMs up to 2 1/2 or 3 grand as the reverse motor pulls a lot of current and drops the battery voltage considerably. If the bike's battery is questionable and you don't ride several miles after using the reverse the bike may not want to start after sitting.

Good luck finding this dilemma.

PC

 

[M2102]

Check these relays in the box under the seat. See white arrows.

Swap them with ones of the same rating.

The cables would make the reverse not to work properly.

I don't know why but I can't bring up the link you have are a trike lady. Is their another way I can see them?.

Disconnected the old battery to put in a new one. I could try the negative side again I only for just because trying all options.

 

[M2102]

Interesting that after you had nothing, with bike in gear, you rocked it, lights flickered long enough for you to get it started. Bad ground maybe? How many miles are we talking about on this bike and its old battery?

I think the bike is pushable even tho the reverse light is on if you have help. FWIW, when I'm going to use my reverse, after pushing the reverse "mode" button and before pressing the reverse power button I bring the RPMs up to 2 1/2 or 3 grand as the reverse motor pulls a lot of current and drops the battery voltage considerably. If the bike's battery is questionable and you don't ride several miles after using the reverse the bike may not want to start after sitting.

Good luck finding this dilemma.

PC

The bike has 77xxx miles on it and No idea how old battery was. Took it out and replaced with a new one.

 

[M2102]

Found them trike lady, thanks.

 

[M2102]

Check these relays in the box under the seat. See white arrows.

Swap them with ones of the same rating.

The cables would make the reverse not to work properly.

Of the 4 rev relays, the 2 to the right as looking at them have 5 legs each. The 2 to the left have 4 legs each the the furthest has no noticeable power to it with key on it off. The next one has power to all legs key on or off.

Also, the 100amp fuse and 70 amp fuse in fuse panel left of battery, the 100 amp power key on or off, the 70 amp no power key on or off. The solinoids to right of battery first one power key on or off. Can't get to second very good but test light is fun on first post.

 

[trike lady]

Have you checked the reverse fuses to see if any of them went bad?

Below are two different years fuse boxes.

One is 06-08 and the other is 2001-2005.

Check the reverse shift fuse also.

 

[M2102]

I did check the 4 you have a pic of but now I can't bring up the new link you put up.

 

[trike lady]

These are the two pics of the fuse box cover.

 

[M2102]

Thanks trike lady I'll look at them tomorrow. Picture is worth a million words. What I did check in there seemed fine but mite get an assortment of dudes and replace the iffy ones. The 100 amp showed power, should the 70 amp show power as well?

 

[trike lady]

The 70amp speed limiter fuse protects the speed limiter relay for reverse.

If the system got overloaded at some point in time it may have blown.

It should have power.

 

[M2102]

Thanks trike lady gives me a glimmer. It Has no power to it with key off or key on.

Thanks

 

[trike lady]

With the reverse button pushed in the light on the dash should switch from 'N' to 'R'.

 

[M2102]

That's part of my problem. I have no power on lights meter panel of reverse. It is engaged in reverse and so far haven't been able to get power to released it

 

[M2102]

Double post

 

[trike lady]

Something to try and some say it works. Tap on the kill switch and make sure it hasn't been turned to 'Off'.

Pull the reverse shift fuse and see if it unlocks. Manually release the reverse cable assembly. I'm going to find a pic of that part.

By chance is the reverse button stuck in. Use the CRC contact cleaner that is safe on plastic.

The battery may be dead and need to be charged.

 

[trike lady]

The pics of the reverse actuator.

The yellow arrow points to the nut you'd want to turn to release the system, take all reverse fuses out before trying to power up and start the bike. You want to turn the bottom one, not the top one.

Red circle shows close up of nut.

 

[M2102]

The pics of the reverse actuator.

The yellow arrow points to the nut you'd want to turn to release the system, take all reverse fuses out before trying to power up and start the bike. You want to turn the bottom one, not the top one.

Red circle shows close up of nut.

I can't thank you enough trike lady for you patients and showing me where to look and what to do. I will be getting a new 70 amp fuse to replace the one that has no power and fingers crossed that it will power up. I will let you know how it goes.the pictures didn't come up on my phone or kindle and have been able to bring them up from other sites. thank goodness for the main computer.

Thanks again for everything

Mike

 

[M2102]

Trike lady i wanted to let you know that it is up and running. A friend suggested last night to try a ground jumper to see if that works. It did. As soon as i touched it to a ground i heard a click on opposite side of trike. I now have all lights on, everything works, goes into reverse and backs up and disengages as it should. That was first thing i tried, didn't try the actuatorm bolt. I'm happy and so is my wife. I can see a moonshine lunch run possobly this weekend.

Thank you for all your suggestions and if i hear of someone with same issues i know where to have them start.

 

[Phu Cat]

Just curious, which ground wire was bad? That ground on my bike may be getting dirty also.

Thanks, PC

 

[trike lady]

You're welcome and glad to hear the problem was found.

There is a ground point under the gas tank. That is the one that sometimes creates problems.

I has been my pleasure to assist you.

Have a great day.

 

[M2102]

Thanks for everything. The ground under the tank may have to wait a bit. But eventually will get to it.

 

[M2102]

Just curious, which ground wire was bad? That ground on my bike may be getting dirty also.

Thanks, PC

As for the exact one my guess is the battery ground. Put ground in another location then everything is back to normal.

 

[Phu Cat]

Am I reading you right 2102? You connected a separate jumper wire from your battery and connected it to somewhere else on the bikes frame?

PC

 

[M2102]

Yep. That's what I did.

 

[trike lady]

I learned something new today from this and will remember it.

Thank you.