Solid Axle vs Independent Axle

IMHO There is NO comparison. Years ago too many to remember I owned a solid axle trike. One of the rear wheels was always coming off the ground. ended up flipping it broke 3 ribs my collar bone and lost my spleen. Last year I was shopping for a trike I rented a Tri Glide from Myrtle Beach H.D. not much had changed, when cornering very hard the tire lifted. The right more so than the left. I found a newly converted Road King Classic with a Motor Trike IRS. I have tried to get a tire to lift riding very hard and aggressively it stays put. I did not get to ride the TRI Glide on Upstate NY. winding weather beaten roads like I have the Motor Trike. I need a rake kit to improve and ease it's turning but it sure is a comfortable ride on rough roads Hope this helps in your decision with whatever you choose. Ride safe
I ride my Tri Glide pretty hard thru the curves and it has never lifted the rear wheel. I can make the front tire skip when hitting the curves hard, but this trike has never lifted the rear wheel!
 
I ride my Tri Glide pretty hard thru the curves and it has never lifted the rear wheel. I can make the front tire skip when hitting the curves hard, but this trike has never lifted the rear wheel!

We learned a thing about the front tire skip. Last year while talking with a friend who does a lot of motorcycle suspension work, we mentioned the front tire skip on the Triglide. He told us its because the front suspension isn't following the road properly through the corners. This winter we shipped the legs from my dads too him for a Traxion AK20 cartridge install. The forks had around 40,000 miles on them at the time. The 1st thing he noticed was the oil came out like sludge, he said the tire was pretty much the front suspension.

The handling is night and day different since the change. My dad has been through corners where he used to skip the front tire, now it doesn't skip. He has about 10,000 miles on the new front suspension, no skips, and it takes bumps better.
 
I ride my Tri Glide pretty hard thru the curves and it has never lifted the rear wheel. I can make the front tire skip when hitting the curves hard, but this trike has never lifted the rear wheel!
I used to do it intentionally (many moons ago) since I couldn't wheelie the darn thing I would get it up on the front wheel and the right rear tire. Hence the broken and missing body parts.
 
By the way,,,,,,, A new trike is coming out with IRS & full factory warranty along with the warranty on the Trike.
Something new to look at.... :http://www.bikernettrikes.com/pages/story_detail.aspx?id=12403
Old news. That's for the Victory Cross-Country. I contacted them a couple weeks ago and they only have two left. Seems they have inconsistent production runs.

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Thanks for all the great opinions!

So test drove the 2015 TG this past weekend and I'm sold! Gorgeous machine! The Frederick dealership had a single 2015 in stock, the dark grey one. Pinstriping is a plus, but preferred the White/Blue model. Apparently, they're hard to find on the east coast, but put a deposit on a White/Blue nevertheless and girded myself for the wait. Got a call yesterday. I was thrilled to learn that they found one down in Chesapeake. Taking delivery this weekend!

Even though I watched their obligatory video, I still wasn't quite prepared at how differently a trike handles vs two-wheel. Took me a few moments to change my riding patterns. Suffice to stay, when I drive out of the dealership this coming weekend, it's going to be go-slo-mode for a bit until I become accustomed to the dynamics.

I noted those comments about how rough a solid axle can be compared to IRS-type suspension, so I added a Road Zeppelin Air Adjustable Seat as an option, thinking it might help take the edge off, on those bumps. Also upgraded the exhaust with Screamin' Eagle Street Cannons and a taller windershield.

I'll be sure to post pics when I can. Thanks once again for your comments!

Vince.

Well, picked up the new scoot this last Saturday! Lovin' it! :D

Vince.
 

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By the way,,,,,,, A new trike is coming out with IRS & full factory warranty along with the warranty on the Trike.
Something new to look at.... :http://www.bikernettrikes.com/pages/story_detail.aspx?id=12403

Well, I have to admit it, but that looks pretty good. I didn't like the Victory tourers before, but the addition of the trike body somehow makes it visually appealing. Still would buy a TriGlide though - - it's a HARLEY by god and I do like baseball and apple pie too. :)
 
I've always preferred IRS over SOLID......but, after riding a Trigg Kit, I'm seriously considering this Route for my next "Trike Adventure" ........;) ThumbUp
 
I have owned a TriGlide and a CSC conversion (IRS and made in Virginia). For me there is no comparison. In Minnesota where the roads are terrible I much prefer the CSC ride. In Florida where the roads are much better, I still much prefer the IRS.
And, the CDC handling is far superior in the twisties. I've proven that over two six day trips around Colorado this summer and last.
 
I have owned a TriGlide and a CSC conversion (IRS and made in Virginia). For me there is no comparison. In Minnesota where the roads are terrible I much prefer the CSC ride. In Florida where the roads are much better, I still much prefer the IRS.
And, the CDC handling is far superior in the twisties. I've proven that over two six day trips around Colorado this summer and last.

Proven it to who?

Nobody is disagreeing about the IRS being smoother then a solid axle. What I'm saying is it's not worth $5000 more - at least to me. I am perfectly content with the solid axle's performance and see no reason to change. I stay off of bad roads and yes, I have ridden on some pretty bad streets, but that only lasts a few minutes. Still not worth the extra$$$$ to me. I've been told I'm a tightwad - I have to agree. :D

I would love to ride with you in the twisties and compare both. I've never ridden an IRS in the twisties so I can't say if it's better or worse. All I can say is keeping up with 6 rice rockets on the Cherohala Skyway last summer was very invigorating. :)

On a good smooth road how can you tell the difference???

Maybe in another 10 years when I'm 80 or have a bad back, I'll reconsider. :D

Ride and enjoy whatever you ride. And stay safe. ThumbUp
 
Proven it to who?

Nobody is disagreeing about the IRS being smoother then a solid axle. What I'm saying is it's not worth $5000 more - at least to me. I am perfectly content with the solid axle's performance and see no reason to change. I stay off of bad roads and yes, I have ridden on some pretty bad streets, but that only lasts a few minutes. Still not worth the extra$$$$ to me. I've been told I'm a tightwad - I have to agree. :D

I agree it wouldn't be worth the extra money if a person owns a Triglide, but if they are converting, its a whole different deal. The Motor Trike Gladiator IRS is only $1,000 more than its straight axle Trog, the CSC IRS Harley kit is also within the same cost as the Motor Trike Gladiator.
 
I remember back in 2011 when my dealer had trike demos. DFT had just brought out their Harley TG replacement IRS. Cost at that time was estimated at $5000. Just to replace the rear end. That's when I said it's not worth it to me.

Even $1000 is too much for me. I'm a cheap bastard. :)
 
I remember back in 2011 when my dealer had trike demos. DFT had just brought out their Harley TG replacement IRS. Cost at that time was estimated at $5000. Just to replace the rear end. That's when I said it's not worth it to me.

Even $1000 is too much for me. I'm a cheap bastard. :)

HAHAHAHAH!!!!!
Yeah, I'd like to do it and see how the old Tri-Glide handles with IRS. But I guess the DFT conversion is over $6k now!! That's NUTS! I kinda wish the MoCo would have offered an IRS option - I might have done that. I suppose the solid is a lot cheaper & easier to manufacture and the good ole MoCo is all about the $$$$ these days.:)
 
The co rider can tell the difference more than the rider. My wife on the back of a Champion and a Motor trike ( both straight axel ) winches every time we hit a bridge separation or pot hole. I hear ugh come from the rear seat. With my DFT she usually sleeps on long trips.
The DFT I have now is 14 years old. I guess I should replace all the. Worn parts. I have only greased it 2 times since I owned it. Never had one problem with it.
Cornering is the only problem I get a headache from Honey banging me on the helmet and yelling slow down. ( that's why when she sleeps it is good times roll )
Roads up here ( and the people that attended the NE TT rally this year can attest to this ) are anything but smooth. When the roads get rough the I R is what to have.
Also going with a kit over the Tri Glide is u get to choose a body style. It is your $$$$$ so it is your choice. No one can do that for you. Big key lower your rear tire pressure to 24 lb max. I like 22 but them me and Honey tip the scales at 270lb total.
 
The co rider can tell the difference more than the rider. My wife on the back of a Champion and a Motor trike ( both straight axel ) winches every time we hit a bridge separation or pot hole. I hear ugh come from the rear seat. With my DFT she usually sleeps on long trips.
The DFT I have now is 14 years old. I guess I should replace all the. Worn parts. I have only greased it 2 times since I owned it. Never had one problem with it.
Cornering is the only problem I get a headache from Honey banging me on the helmet and yelling slow down. ( that's why when she sleeps it is good times roll )
Roads up here ( and the people that attended the NE TT rally this year can attest to this ) are anything but smooth. When the roads get rough the I R is what to have.
Also going with a kit over the Tri Glide is u get to choose a body style. It is your $$$$$ so it is your choice. No one can do that for you. Big key lower your rear tire pressure to 24 lb max. I like 22 but them me and Honey tip the scales at 270lb total.


I was hearing them same noises with my Gal on the back when driving the straight axle bike!! :D
 
Well I just bought a 2014 Tri Glide with 3700 miles on it black in color , has a lot of extras put I also own a 2007 Ultra Classic with a Hannigan trike added , I was extremely impressed with the solid axle on the tri glide , will be riding the Tri Glide in Florida , for the winter. :pepper::pepper::pepper:
 
I tried them both and prefer the solid axle.

When hitting an expansion joint it is the same whether it's a solid axle or a IRS. Only difference is when an obstacle is hit one wheel at a time. That's the whole idea of IRS only one wheel is effected when hitting an obstacle and not both = not as much jarring.

No difference on smooth roads which is where I spend 95% of the time.
 
Proven it to who?

Nobody is disagreeing about the IRS being smoother then a solid axle. What I'm saying is it's not worth $5000 more

Comparing apples to apples
Lehman base price for straight axle kit for GW = $8,545
Lehman base price for IRS kit for GW = $8745

Champion SA base = $7245
Champion IRS, add $1,000=$8245
Prices copied from each companies web sight.

Just wondering where you got $5K difference from?
 
I tried them both and prefer the solid axle.

When hitting an expansion joint it is the same whether it's a solid axle or a IRS. Only difference is when an obstacle is hit one wheel at a time. That's the whole idea of IRS only one wheel is effected when hitting an obstacle and not both = not as much jarring.

No difference on smooth roads which is where I spend 95% of the time.
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