Does anyone else have hard time finding neutral with bike running.
2012 Triglide.:Shrug:
2012 Triglide.:Shrug:
Finding Neutral
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How many miles do you have on trike. As they get more miles it will wear in. Putting a gear box oil in the transmission will help, I use 75-140 Amsoil some others on here have their favorite that work well also. You may also need the clutch adjusted. Good luck Dave
EVERYONE with a Harley with less than a few thousand miles has trouble finding neutral. It is easier if it is turned off, or rolling. Like nearly everyone, you will roll up to a stoplight and forget to down shift it. Standing still in 3rd or 4th gear it takes finesse to get it into 1st gear. You will get used to it, and easier with more miles on it.
If you come to a stop and can't get into neutral cuz the tranny's hung up, push down on the shifter slightly and let the clutch out enough til you fell the friction point and it'll shift down one gear.
A better way is to downshift before coming to a stop: Press on the shifter a little then blip the throttle and your tranny will do what you want. These new clutches seem to drag pretty bad and making the clutch plates turn at a much different speed (than idle) takes away the pressure on the shift arm.
I'd much rather have the old clutch and tranny that was in our old EG.
Phu Cat
A better way is to downshift before coming to a stop: Press on the shifter a little then blip the throttle and your tranny will do what you want. These new clutches seem to drag pretty bad and making the clutch plates turn at a much different speed (than idle) takes away the pressure on the shift arm.
I'd much rather have the old clutch and tranny that was in our old EG.
Phu Cat
I had trouble finding neutral on my T/G, But after almost 15 thousand miles i find it easier, But that has nothing to do with it breaking in , It's just that i've got use to it's quirks, I know this because when my Son who has many bikes' when he gets on my T/G he can't find neural without a few choice words..:Shrug:
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TheBobs
My 2010 Triglide shifted into neutral, engine running, with ease from first drive home from the dealer. My 2012 was a total pain in the @$$. I turned the clutch adjustment about three turns tighter and it behaved perfectly just like the 2010. Something to look at, or ask the dealer to look at it.
I did exactly the same. My local HD dealer sold it to me to make it easier to find neutral and also shift smoother. It seems to have helped a lot.
It's not just Harley's my BMW is a bugger when it comes to finding neutral. The Klictronic doesn't help as there is no "feel" from the pedal. I try to get into first as I roll to a stop if not second is still low enough to pull away.
I only have 7k miles on the clock it may improve with mileage.
I only have 7k miles on the clock it may improve with mileage.
My TG does great until the oil temp gets over 220*. Something I have always done is adjust the clutch with the oil as hot as you can handle the parts & work with, and I don't back the adjuster off a full 1/2 turn. Maybe 1+ flat on the nut. Also keep the cable gap at no more than 1/16". I haven't done the TG as yet. It hasn't been real bad after the first adj. when just about a week old by the dealer. But the problem is still there !
Just my opinion........
:Trike1:
I was having a problem with getting my 2012 TG into neutral.
I finally raised enough stink at the stealers shop that adjusted the clutch.
That took care of the problem.
I finally raised enough stink at the stealers shop that adjusted the clutch.
That took care of the problem.
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+1..A properly adjusted clutch make a huge difference finding Neutral.
Plus I am not to happy with the Harley self adjusting primary shoe. Do not feel it adjusts the chain properly..
I've never had a Harley that I didn't have problems getting into neutral at some time. Easier as the bike gets older.
As has been said before, it's easier to find neutral as your slowly coming to a stop and before actually stopping. Also blipping the throttle helps a little at other times, but as a whole Harley's clutch is the worst of any bike - that I've ever ridden.
Save the wave :wave4:
As has been said before, it's easier to find neutral as your slowly coming to a stop and before actually stopping. Also blipping the throttle helps a little at other times, but as a whole Harley's clutch is the worst of any bike - that I've ever ridden.
Save the wave :wave4:
but as a whole Harley's clutch is the worst of any bike - that I've ever ridden.
Have to agree Gary. But I've never riden a bike that didn't have a wet clutch. When we look at the tiny amount of space between clutch and friction plates with the clutch pulled in, there's no wonder why wet clutches drag. And our 2012 Tglide is the worst we've ever had.
Phu Cat
Have to agree Gary. But I've never riden a bike that didn't have a wet clutch. When we look at the tiny amount of space between clutch and friction plates with the clutch pulled in, there's no wonder why wet clutches drag. And our 2012 Tglide is the worst we've ever had.
Phu Cat
Its not only the clutch adjustment but the primary chain comes into play also on this topic..
I agree 100% on the primary adjuster, to me it keeps the chain way tighter than it should be. The sad part is there are not many alternatives out there I would trust to replace it with right now. Hayden has come out with one but I won't run it until I see how well it holds up for others. Baker has come out with a manual adjustable replacement, problem is you either have to buy one of his $1,000+ primary covers to get the window for adjusting it and checking the adjustment, or remove your primary cover each time you want to adjust it or check the adjustment.
Yea I was looking at this one..I have used there evo model one for years and loved it..
I see they have one for the 2007 and later models now..
Southern Oregon Hot Bikes Products
Yea like to see more reviews on all those units too..just read some reviews on the SOHOT wedge..
Harleys have always been a pain in trying to find neutral. My 2007 is like that and so was my 2003, 2002, 2000, 1997, 1993, and 1992. Don't know why they can't correct that. Oh, and more miles on mine did NOT make it any easier.
I will tell you one thing I put on the Clutch wiz and neutral goes in like butter too now..
Yea it did exceed my expectations...ThumbUp
On every HD I own I have had this problem. Try this, pull in your clutch, throttle your engine a small amount and see if it will shift into neutral easier.
I believe if Harley would go the route that Baker uses in their trans, they could eliminate most all of their hard shifting & noise problems They now have a 7 speed out that drops all the ratios down including 1st gear.
I have never tried one of their boxes, but have talked to a few that have, & they all had high praise for them.
Why would Harley still be using straight cut gearing for one example? It isn't all just the clutch that makes neutral hard to hit ! If it was, why can you put Baker gears inside the Harley box, run Harley's clutch, & never have the problems with the Harley "clunk" or neutral problems ?? Also run quieter. Also without all the friction caused by straight cut gears ,,, less heat generated !
Just my opinion.............:Trike1:
Enjoy & ride Safe !!
What is the procedure for adjusting the clutch on an '05 Ultra with a Lehman conversion, which I just bought? Having trouble finding neutral, and a clutch adjustment is a commone recommendation.
Any "tricks of the trade"?
Thanks
Any "tricks of the trade"?
Thanks
I was having the hardest time finding neutral until my indy got ahold of it...now so easy to find and smooth as silk...
Where do I get the clutch wiz for my 05 HD w/ Lehman? I am reading that it is worth the $.
It's probably the same reason that HD bad-mouthed synthetics until they started packaging their own. HD is lethargic when it comes to making any changes, but the straight cut gears is something that I thought went out with the buggy whip.... I hate the "clunk" when I shift into first gear from neutral. All my HD's had this, but my Gold Wing didn't. A clunk is a sound of impact, and nothing good will come from an impact.
Thanks for the info.
I think you will find it is well worth the $. There is a thread at the top of the Harley page that should give you all the info you may need about the wiz and you can click on the ad for tGlide Stuff to the right or try the link below.
tGLIDE Stuff.com
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