What are the Differences?

[GARYD]

SERIOUSLY!! What in gods name are you blabbing about???

Triglide manifesto???
HGTG Home office???
Court of public opinion???
1st amendment rights???
Waive their rights to privacy???
Rodney King and Barney???
Are you a lawyer or movie producer :Shrug:

If you were refering to the 9 things that I thought were different between the 2 - where am I wrong - those were just my opinions which is what the OP asked for.
No one is stopping you from listing your 9 or however many differences you have. Everything I stated was MY opinion - no one has to agree with with any of them.
From the tone of your post it sounds like you're saying if someone doesn't agree with your opinions then they are somehow a wacho.

I haven't attacked anyone. Why you're attacking me and every thing I say I don't know - was it because I disagreed with you about IRS and solid suspension? How childish. Did I hurt your feelings? If so I'm sorry.

 

[msocko3]

Seems no matter the forum every time a Harley & Honda discussion breaks out the fire hoses need to be manned. FWIW the only 2 things I can think of off the top of my head the Triglide can lay claim to vs any other converted Harley trike is it's frame is purpose built to be a trike, and it carries a 2 year unlimited miles manufacturer warranty which to some means an awful lot.

When it comes to comparing trike designs no matter who made them it comes down to IRS vs solid axle. Then when it comes to comparing manufacturers of the bike in which the trike is built on the sky is the limit, each has it strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Veritas44]

Sorry... I messed up.

I know better than to attempt to engage in a friendly debate or exchange with a ZEALOT.

 

[GARYD]

Friendly debate!? You got to be kidding. :AGGHH:
There was no debate - just you attacking my opinions.
You never do answer any of my questions - why don't you answer my last question?

msocko3 is on the right track.
He says, to some the warranty is very important - why don't you ask him if he's joking?

 

[Trent]

Ha ha ha!!! Look at my post number #7 or #8 on the first page...Yep!!!....I knew this would happen!!!!

 

[BigDiDaddy]

I'm not trying to start anything, but could I get some information on what the differences between the Harley Davidson based trikes and the Gold Wing based trikes? Based on your experiences, why would you choose one over the other? What do you like or not like about them?

Personal preference. I personally chose my Kawasaki 2000Lt with the Motor Trike Conversion. More horsepower than a HD with its Lehman Conversion. Plus water cooled, no over heating in heavy traffic. Idividual suspension in the rear in with air bags on top of each shock. The main thing was the power difference.

 

[BigDiDaddy]

My Kawasaki 2000LT has full factory warranty. I keep reading about HDs having a factory warranty. Not true. I still think it is all about preference. HD trikes are in truth are a Lehman conversion, HD purchased the rights to use Lehman specs. My Older Brother has the HD Trike conversion with the Screaming Eagle package, no compasion between the two trikes. He does not have near the power I have and the ride is smoother on mine. That and the fact in traffic he heats up so bad it smells like his oil is burning. He has 56 grand in his, I have 27 grand in mine including the matching trailor I pull behind mine.

 

[DTR 11TG]

... He has 56 grand in his...

how in the hell did he get that much in it???

 

[msocko3]

My Kawasaki 2000LT has full factory warranty. I keep reading about HDs having a factory warranty. Not true. I still think it is all about preference. HD trikes are in truth are a Lehman conversion, HD purchased the rights to use Lehman specs. My Older Brother has the HD Trike conversion with the Screaming Eagle package, no compasion between the two trikes. He does not have near the power I have and the ride is smoother on mine. That and the fact in traffic he heats up so bad it smells like his oil is burning. He has 56 grand in his, I have 27 grand in mine including the matching trailor I pull behind mine.

The 1st 2 years the Triglide back half was installed at the Lehman factory, the parts are not Lehman parts, they won't interchange with one and other. The frame for the Triglide has been built specifically to be a trike vs a conversion. By the sound of it your older brother took a CVO Harley and had a trike kit installed, Harley hadn't made a Screaming Eagle Triglide yet.

The heat I can understand, a totally stock and untuned CVO is one hot running engine.

 

[msocko3]

how in the hell did he get that much in it???

Sounds like he bought a triked CVO.

 

[Missouri Charley]

I don't have a dog in this hunt but i"ll give my thoughts. I started riding HD in 1969 and rode all forms of HD until Aug. of 2005. I have to say with HD the MOST important thing to have is the WARRANTY cause you are going to need it if you ride 30000 miles a year like we do. Now to the OP question the aftermarket kits for the HD and the Goldwing are all superb, I chose an independent suspension because it handles and rides better, if you like the solid suspension good for you. The HD has the cool factor, the Goldwing has the cool ride. The reverse on the GW is factory and quite, the reverse on the HD is add on and VERY noisey. The HD has a dealer network second to none, the GW is spread out quite a bit. To the OP don't take our word on buying a trike, we are all biased. Go ride one of each and then buy what you like. Charley

 

[Papa Zook]

I don't have a dog in this hunt but i"ll give my thoughts. I started riding HD in 1969 and rode all forms of HD until Aug. of 2005. I have to say with HD the MOST important thing to have is the WARRANTY cause you are going to need it if you ride 30000 miles a year like we do. Now to the OP question the aftermarket kits for the HD and the Goldwing are all superb, I chose an independent suspension because it handles and rides better, if you like the solid suspension good for you. The HD has the cool factor, the Goldwing has the cool ride. The reverse on the GW is factory and quite, the reverse on the HD is add on and VERY noisey. The HD has a dealer network second to none, the GW is spread out quite a bit. To the OP don't take our word on buying a trike, we are all biased. Go ride one of each and then buy what you like. Charley

yep +1

 

[Veritas44]

how in the hell did he get that much in it???

Not really hard to do. Not At All.
Not at liberty to say how much the Owner has in this but-It Ain't Hard to get There

****Ladies & Gentlemen! For Your Viewing Pleasure,,,****

Now THAT's an HD Trike !!!! ThumbUp

P.s. Since I'm absolutely 100% positive that the "Yeah But Warranty" mamby-jahamby is destined to arise, I assure All that the Owner of the above unit is quite protected and satisfied on both Bike & Conversion in that regard.

 

[GARYD]

Charley, Harley's reverse is factory installed.

As Veritas said, very easy - I bet the paint job alone is about half the difference.

 

[DTR 11TG]

I asked "how" because, 'to me', the comment seemed to suggest that a lot of money was spent just because it was an under-powered & overheating money pit. There was no mention of a tricked out custom with a custom paint job, I know how that money adds up.

So I still wonder "HOW" on that trike??

 

[Copasetic]

Not really hard to do. Not At All.
Not at liberty to say how much the Owner has in this but-It Ain't Hard to get There

****Ladies & Gentlemen! For Your Viewing Pleasure,,,****



Now THAT's an HD Trike !!!! ThumbUp

P.s. Since I'm absolutely 100% positive that the "Yeah But Warranty" mamby-jahamby is destined to arise, I assure All that the Owner of the above unit is quite protected and satisfied on both Bike & Conversion in that regard.

That trike is gorgeous. How about more info, please.

 

[msocko3]

Charley, Harley's reverse is factory installed.

They could have done a better job, their reverse is a bolt on high torque starter motor which had been known to fall off due to the fasteners loosening up or just plain fail. They should have put the reverse in the transmission.

 

[GARYD]

msocho3, I agree, but Charlie said the HD wasn't a factory supplied. At least that's what I understood what he said. Yes, I guess it's a little noisy, but I've abused mine for a year now with no hiccups. I even backed up about 100 feet on a highway last summer with no problems. I was a little nervous after reading all the posts about the H-D reverse before going on vacation. Normally I don't back up on a highway, but I overshot a point for the H-D ABC's of Touring contest.

Question! If or when the reverse gives up the ghost, can one of those aftermarket units be installed in the transmision?

Save the wave :wave4:

 

[Nana]

msocho3, I agree, but Charlie said the HD wasn't a factory supplied. At least that's what I understood what he said. Yes, I guess it's a little noisy, but I've abused mine for a year now with no hiccups. I even backed up about 100 feet on a highway last summer with no problems. I was a little nervous after reading all the posts about the H-D reverse before going on vacation. Normally I don't back up on a highway, but I overshot a point for the H-D ABC's of Touring contest.

Question! If or when the reverse gives up the ghost, can one of those aftermarket units be installed in the transmision?

Save the wave :wave4:

Just to clarify, Gary...... Charley says he chose the independent suspension -- that means he does not have a TriGlide, but rather a kit added to what was a 2-wheel HD as TriGlides only come with solid suspension. The TriGlides do come with reverse from the factory, if I am not mistaken. However the kit-built Harley trikes must have reverse added to them. That is very different from Gold Wings, as they have reverse from the factory even as a 2-wheeler, and that reverse remains in place when the trike kit is added.

And yes, an aftermarket reverse system can be added to your trike later. When I enquired about it a couple of years ago, it was going to cost me approximately $1,000.00. I don't know what the current price range is.

 

[Veritas44]

Gary & Whom else it may Concern,
Absolutely (unless the Primary is different on the Tri-Glide than the normal FLH series bikes) it can. The mechanical Bolt-On reverse assemblies are made by Champion, MotorTrike (newer entry into the offerings-within the past year), and Baker. The Champion is a lever manually operated deal and will normally run around $1400 and $300-$400 to install depending on Shop & Prevailing Labor Rate. I believe the MT version is of same config and approx same costs. The Baker is alot more complicated and is a "Button-activated" system. It runs around $1800-$1900 and increased Install/Labor charges as well from the others.

Should you, or anyone else for that matter, EVER decide to do the Baker be VERY CAREFUL & DISCERNING about who you get to install it (that goes for HD Shops too). As I said, the Baker is far more slick & complicated than the others and therefore can be "screwed-up" much easier as well. That one requires advanced skills, meticulous nature, and preferrably experience. I wouldn't let ANYONE do mine that hadn't done oner or more Bakers specifically before with proven positive results.

The Champ is very tried and proven and for the most part Bullet-Proof if you don't "horse" it. The Baker is Heartier and Beefier and as stated is slicker with Button-Activation (Elec or Hydro???) and other features and is even more Bullet-Proof WHEN INSTALLED CORRECTLY. The MT-yet to obtain and test one yet but sure is comparable in quality to the Champ. Still yet TBD though.

 

[Veritas44]

OOPSIE I was remiss in memory.
Beggin your Pardon Miss Nana

Ladies & Gents,,, An Encore Performance!
with Compliments to The Lady ThumbUp

Now THAT's Another HD Trike!!!!

 

[Papa Zook]

Burt Baker builds very high quality parts and equipment, his transmissions are legendary. I haven't personally installed his reverse but I'm sure its a well engineered piece. I'll shoot him an email and see if I can get more info or possibly get him to come here and give us the lowdown on his reverse. There is also the AIM brand reverse unit that's very similar to the Champion and designed and by the brother (Japanese) of the Champion unit designer. Aim also builds the Harley VPC clutch system.

 

[Nana]

OOPSIE I was remiss in memory.
Beggin your Pardon Miss Nana

Now THAT's Another HD Trike!!!!
Ladies & Gents,,, An Encore Performance!
with Compliments to The Lady ThumbUp

Why THANK YOU, my friend! It is more than pretty, it is fun to ride too!!!!

 

[Papa Zook]

They could have done a better job, their reverse is a bolt on high torque starter motor which had been known to fall off due to the fasteners loosening up or just plain fail. They should have put the reverse in the transmission.

M3, I think they fear some knucklehead would lock up the tranny and break a gear...seen it happen before on an aftermarket unit. That might be a warranty nightmare for Harley. True on the electric reverse motors falling off though. More loctite??

 

[Veritas44]

True on the electric reverse motors falling off though. More loctite??

Agreed Zook.
Heard of carrying a pocket full of ball-bearings to "educate & correct" tail-gaters but,
That's a tad too harsh. Even in My Book.

*for the Record,,, Ain't NEVER done that personally

 

[ttanthony]

M3, I think they fear some knucklehead would lock up the tranny and break a gear...seen it happen before on an aftermarket unit. That might be a warranty nightmare for Harley. True on the electric reverse motors falling off though. More loctite??

Hey Zook would you recommend taking the bolts out on a new Tri-Glide and applying loctite to start with as a preventive move or not.

 

[msocko3]

M3, I think they fear some knucklehead would lock up the tranny and break a gear...seen it happen before on an aftermarket unit. That might be a warranty nightmare for Harley. True on the electric reverse motors falling off though. More loctite??

Your right, its easier to let an electrical motor with a little computer in the loop to do the work. They could have gone with a design like the one Baker has, I would think it would be more bullet proof. Loctite and making it a point to check those fasteners will go a long way towards keeping it from falling out.

 

[Trent]

That 57K Trike is very very nice. And I can understand that amount of $$ too. I have right about 50K into mine, without custom paint or wheels. It adds up fast.

 

[GARYD]

Thanks all for giving me another thing to be paranoid about. First it was the trunk door coming open. Now I also have to get on my knees to check the reverse motor before riding out? :AGGHH:

Is there anything else I need to worry about?
Yea, yea I know it's a Harley.

Save the wave :wave4:

 

[DTR 11TG]

That 57K Trike is very very nice. And I can understand that amount of $$ too. I have right about 50K into mine, without custom paint or wheels. It adds up fast.

Trent, The good looking custom trike in those pictures is not the 57K trike I was asking "how" about, it is a completely different trike, but it is a great looking trike.