Vanderhall Guy

[bikerbillone]

You sir are correct, do it right the first time. Wish I had your patience, it usually serves you well.

 

[pmar6004]

Thanks Paul. I've had several phone conversations between dealers and others and their info has been the same. I sold my Stallion a few weeks ago and I'm trying to be patient! LOL It's the first time in many years I haven't had any type of m/c in my garage and it's driving me up the wall! I did get a reservation in early so hopefully I'll get one early. They are still playing with the prototype but, expect to start production soon. Just hope soon means sooner than later. Tomg

Tomg,

Keep me informed as you work with your Vanderhall dealership in the weeks that follow. Hopefully it won't be too long before your Carmel is received and in your possession. The Vanderhall dealership that I plan on working with is not interested in my Stallion as a trade in on a Carmel. I didn't think he would be, but it was worth a try. I'm in no big hurry. I'll visit the dealership after he has a few in his inventory and take one for a test drive. Maybe I'll rent one for a weekend so I get sometime with it. I'll be looking for a few pictures of you and your Carmel. What color did you decide on? They say that Metallic Red is the fastest...lol!

pmar6004

 

[tomg]

Tomg,

Keep me informed as you work with your Vanderhall dealership in the weeks that follow. Hopefully it won't be too long before your Carmel is received and in your possession. The Vanderhall dealership that I plan on working with is not interested in my Stallion as a trade in on a Carmel. I didn't think he would be, but it was worth a try. I'm in no big hurry. I'll visit the dealership after he has a few in his inventory and take one for a test drive. Maybe I'll rent one for a weekend so I get sometime with it. I'll be looking for a few pictures of you and your Carmel. What color did you decide on? They say that Metallic Red is the fastest...lol!

pmar6004

I sold mine thru Craigslist and got what I thought was a good price for both sides. Had several scam calls at first, then nothing for a couple of weeks so I dropped the price by a grand , sold it and had an other person wanting to come check it out ! Seems like it's all or nothing for responses.

Tom

 

[tomg]

Daytona Beach BikeWeek finally had a Carmel prototype Carmel to look at and touch! Looks good and much easier to get in and out of. Still hasn't nailed down exactly what is standard or optional but working on it. The larger storage area behind the seats is nice but as the seats don't fold forward for access makes the need for smaller types of luggage . I will opt for the trailer hitch to pull a small trailer for trips. Depending on who you talked to, production may or may not have started . I was told by a VP not to expect delivery until April /May time frame. People are seeing more Venice and Speedster on the roads everyday . Tomg

 

[pmar6004]

Daytona Beach BikeWeek finally had a Carmel prototype Carmel to look at and touch! Looks good and much easier to get in and out of. Still hasn't nailed down exactly what is standard or optional but working on it. The larger storage area behind the seats is nice but as the seats don't fold forward for access makes the need for smaller types of luggage . I will opt for the trailer hitch to pull a small trailer for trips. Depending on who you talked to, production may or may not have started . I was told by a VP not to expect delivery until April /May time frame. People are seeing more Venice and Speedster on the roads everyday . Tomg

Tomg,

I was hoping that you could add information about what will be options on the Carmel, after having seen it, up and close. Now that we know Vanderhall will only manufacture a basic Carmel with only standard equipment installed, thus retaining its relationship with its dealers as a boutique manufacturer. Apparently Vanderhall will remain tight-lipped on the subject until it's fully in production mode. I guess interested and prospective buyers will just have to wait till that occurs. Waiting has never been one of my stronger attributes.

pmar6004

 

[tomg]

I'm going back in the morning as I forgot to take photos so I can work on getting estimates for paint work. I'll ask questions again and try to press a little more. LOL

Tom

 

[tomg]

I was going to add photos but for some reason I haven't been able to load them? I did put in my 2 cents and let them know that the storage area needs a hard cover with a lock so there is a safe place for items not wanted to be carried around every time you stop like a purse your lady would like to lock up or general items to keep out of view. You know people are going to be looking it over!

I also asked about the body and fenders being made kinda thin in my opinion and was told it was easier to make the prototype that way and they felt the actual would be more sturdy and the fenders hopefully will be metal. I asked about the seats not folding forward which makes you luggage selection very limited. Notes were made and would be discussed with engineering and management . I have to that they are willing to listen to potential buyers as we ARE the end users. Still waiting for what will be standard or optional and probably a April/May time frame. Tom

 

[tomg]

Finally got the photos! Tom

 

[Springman2007]

I have been looking at Vanderhalls for some time; but, I have waited as I live in Ohio and they had no dealer in my state - up til recently. Now IronPony (Pony Motor Sports) is a Vanderhall dealer - they are in Westervillle, near Columbus. So, I am really getting serious about one.

I too DON'T DO FACEBOOK ANYTHING! I think people are crazy that do; and, a lot of corporations frown on its use or social media in general during working hours - so it can be tough to surf from work for some. I like browsing a forum during lunch or the odd moment between calls. I would rather see a Vanderhall forum hear in Trike Talk.

I am not to responsive to the Carmel as I think 40K is a bit rich for me - if I did have that kind of scratch, I think I would try for a Morgan.....

No, I have to confess that I like the Speedster best out of all the Vanderhall models; and, I think I would like to try for a SpeedsterR in 2020.

Springman

 

[Springman2007]

In talking to a VH owner, I was told that the Carmel and the future R models will have a 200hp, 1.5 liter motor? I guess the existing EcoTec 1.4 will be discontinued (I wonder if that was VH or GM?). I was also told that the EcoTec engines are designed by Opel for GM (or is Opel part of GM now?).

It was also related to me that the current Speedster does not have provision for the turbo boost or bump shift gauges? Is that true? Sound kind of like poor-planning by HV if it is.

Springman