Tri glide front sliders

[BLKHRT]

i have a scenario to see if anyone else has done this.i have a 2012 tri glide.
the front fork sliders are about 3/4 of an inch longer then the ultra 2 wheel.
what i`m doing is putting the shorter ultra sliders with the 1" lower progressive mono-tube togather to drop the tri glide front the 1 3/4 . what i`m wondering is if anyone has done this, and how it may have turned out.
thanks to anyone that comes up with the same set up blkhrt

 

[triglide1]

And why would you want to do this?

 

[Keystone]

And why would you want to do this?

Same question I have. Why would anyone want to lower the front end of a TG?:Shrug::Shrug:

 

[Miker1358]

I believe the front forks are longer to provide easier steering. Some trike makers change the rake which also requires longer forks. I wouldn't screw with something that may adversely effect the drivibility of the trike.

 

[Rick Kay]

I would be concerned that the front end would be deraked. Also, I wonder if handling problems would ensue?

 

[trikermutha]

I wonder if the trees would need to be replaced with a new rake if the front end gets lowered..

 

[iaff84]

i have a scenario to see if anyone else has done this.i have a 2012 tri glide.
the front fork sliders are about 3/4 of an inch longer then the ultra 2 wheel.
what i`m doing is putting the shorter ultra sliders with the 1" lower progressive mono-tube togather to drop the tri glide front the 1 3/4 . what i`m wondering is if anyone has done this, and how it may have turned out.
thanks to anyone that comes up with the same set up blkhrt

As one that thinks out of the box sometime (most Times), I would say if you have the stuff to try it out, go for it. You may be the one that finds a better ride and look!!!!
You never know till you try. Keep us posted.
Dennis

 

[Oldmsocko]

I'm not sure why you would want to do that. I sure wouldn't.

 

[JohnC]

I donn't see a single thing to be gained by replacing the forks with shorter ones. Are you trying to go for the "slammed" look maybe? That look might come at the expense of poor handling and/or troublesome steering angles that could put you (and others) in danger.

 

[BLKHRT]

as the old harley saying go`s if i have to tell you you wouldn`t understand ????

 

[Oldmsocko]

as the old harley saying go`s if i have to tell you you wouldn`t understand ????

Why don't you give it a try and just explain it so a 6 year old would understand it. I catch on pretty quick.

 

[Keystone]

i`m wondering is if anyone has done this, and how it may have turned out.

as the old harley saying go`s if i have to tell you you wouldn`t understand ????

By your opening question you don't "understand". You will change the geometry of the front which more likely than not will result in poor handling.But it's your TG. Let us know how it turns out for ya.

 

[Gorilla]

One thing you might have to watch for is the top of the front fender hitting the bottom of the fairing on full compress of the forks. I have done that once on a very big hole in the road with my standard front end with 1 inch extensions. Changed to a heavier fork oil (30 #) and do not have that problem anymore.

 

[SEAlaskan]

Why don't you give it a try and just explain it so a 6 year old would understand it. I catch on pretty quick.

LUCKY YOU, with me..you'd have to be quick at explaining it, cause I'm regressing pretty fast.
Butch

 

[BLKHRT]

I have done this many times with two-wheelers. You don`t change the geometry until you go to a rake. Which I also have done many times. The longer the rake and stretch, the more it wants the front wheel to lay down. This creates hard steering the type that isn`t predictable. Lowering front and rear actualy gives you a better feel of the road. Just as it does with 4-wheels. My thought was here on this sight, I might run into some people that also thinks and works outside the box. I know what I need to do and how a bike reacts to lowering and what happens when lowered to much. I have been riding since 1957 with a lot of trial and errors. With the two-wheel sliders, you get the same stance as a two-wheel touring bike. The progressive mono tubes 1" drop give you the same thing as a lowered Ultra Glides (which handles very well). Only the mono tubes give you better support and handling. With this set up from the Ultra-Glide on the Tri-Glide, you get a Tri-Glide with a 1 3/4 inch drop. Then with a lowered rear, you get a Tri-Glide lower to the ground with improved handling. Now, if any one out there has done this on a Tri-Glide it would be great to hear from you. blkhrt

 

[roadrumble]

WOW!!!
Many of us have raised the rear 11/4" to get a better handling and better looking bike.
And you want to lower yours.
Good luck to you. I think you will end up with a bike that rides hard and bottoms out frequently.
But each to his own.
Let us know how it turns out.

 

[RickDeVon]

If I did that I would put the 12" HD440s on the rear...When I trike my 06 Ultra I will leave it lowered and go with a rake kit

 

[Baz]

I have done this many times with two-wheelers. You don`t change the geometry until you go to a rake. Which I also have done many times. The longer the rake and stretch, the more it wants the front wheel to lay down. This creates hard steering the type that isn`t predictable. Lowering front and rear actualy gives you a better feel of the road. Just as it does with 4-wheels. My thought was here on this sight, I might run into some people that also thinks and works outside the box. I know what I need to do and how a bike reacts to lowering and what happens when lowered to much. I have been riding since 1957 with a lot of trial and errors. With the two-wheel sliders, you get the same stance as a two-wheel touring bike. The progressive mono tubes 1" drop give you the same thing as a lowered Ultra Glides (which handles very well). Only the mono tubes give you better support and handling. With this set up from the Ultra-Glide on the Tri-Glide, you get a Tri-Glide with a 1 3/4 inch drop. Then with a lowered rear, you get a Tri-Glide lower to the ground with improved handling. Now, if any one out there has done this on a Tri-Glide it would be great to hear from you. blkhrt

Wow ! there is so much misinformation in the above.Think about it. :Coffee: Most certainly lowering the front, like raising the rear will change the geometry, as both will tend to put more weight on the front end. This in itself may not be such a bad thing as front end bite is likely to improve. But like so many other half baked posts we have to read I say if you don't understand it then leave it alone.

 

[BLKHRT]

you don`t have to read anything. i do see there is little or no experience on here. only (HALF BAKED) OPINIONS. IF YOU SAW THE FIRST POST. YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED I ASKED FOR SOME INFO FROM OTHERS. WHO HAVE BUILT AND TRIED THE THINGS THAT MADE HARLEY WHAT IT IS TODAY, AND THEY AREN`T FROM DOWN UNDER ANYTHING. UNLESS THERE IS SOME HELPFUL INFORMATION . WHY ANSWER THIS POST

 

[Rick Kay]

you don`t have to read anything. i do see there is little or no experience on here. only (HALF BAKED) OPINIONS. IF YOU SAW THE FIRST POST. YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED I ASKED FOR SOME INFO FROM OTHERS. WHO HAVE BUILT AND TRIED THE THINGS THAT MADE HARLEY WHAT IT IS TODAY, AND THEY AREN`T FROM DOWN UNDER ANYTHING. UNLESS THERE IS SOME HELPFUL INFORMATION . WHY ANSWER THIS POST

Wow.

 

[rwhgme]

Since you seem to be approaching your seventh decade, go for it, and let's see your pictures. It is very likely that you are the first person to think of this and for that, we salute you! Maybe this question would have been better posed on HD forums. Good luck in your endeavor!

 

[Oldmsocko]

Since you seem to be approaching your seventh decade, go for it, and let's see your pictures. It is very likely that you are the first person to think of this and for that, we salute you! Maybe this question would have been better posed on HD forums. Good luck in your endeavor!

Posting over there sure wouldn't do him any good there either. Alot of us over here also post over there as well as other forums.

 

[Baz]

you don`t have to read anything. i do see there is little or no experience on here. only (HALF BAKED) OPINIONS. IF YOU SAW THE FIRST POST. YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED I ASKED FOR SOME INFO FROM OTHERS. WHO HAVE BUILT AND TRIED THE THINGS THAT MADE HARLEY WHAT IT IS TODAY, AND THEY AREN`T FROM DOWN UNDER ANYTHING. UNLESS THERE IS SOME HELPFUL INFORMATION . WHY ANSWER THIS POST

Maybe if you had read my post with more care you may have noticed I offered you some constructive information based upon the laws of physics :Shrug: You have a great day.

 

[rwhgme]

I know that Oldmsocko. I was just trying to soothe his ruffled feathers and get him to turn his caps off and stop yelling at us! I already had a headache! I am also a member of a BMW group and they TRULY are a pissy bunch. I just don't want to see that here! I will see a lot of you at Maggie Valley in a few days!

 

[Gorilla]

BLKHRT, Don't get all upset. Not many have thought to do what you are envisioning. Lowering the front a tad is doing basically the same as raising the rear as a lot have done. Should be no issue. My only advise was on my 07 Road King champion conversion when I did what you are doing I bottomed out my forks and put a nice dent in the front fender. I have a 5 degree rake with standard forks. I replaced the fork oil with 30 weight and have had no further issue.

 

[Oldmsocko]

I know that Oldmsocko. I was just trying to soothe his ruffled feathers and get him to turn his caps off and stop yelling at us! I already had a headache! I am also a member of a BMW group and they TRULY are a pissy bunch. I just don't want to see that here! I will see a lot of you at Maggie Valley in a few days!

Hope to meet up with you at MV. For those of you that read my earlier post before I edited it. I made a fool of my self as I miss read the post by rwhgme and I apologise for my post before the edit. He was not referring to me but I read into it that he was. This happens at times with OLD AGE.

 

[patriot]

Rarely do we get factual technical information especially on the dynamics of the ride of the TG. We have opinions, many of them have some validity or at least information we can think about before we some something stupid to our bikes/trikes. I did raise the back of my trike but I don't believe that changed the rake. Changing the length of the tubes will change the rake. With that said, if BLKHRT wants to spend the money to lower the front of the trike, go for it. He then after non-scientific testing can give his opinion on the ride and handling. I think that's fair.

 

[trikermutha]

Have you checked with Paul Yaffee?? He seems to do the work you are asking us on the shocks??

Good Luck on your project..

 

[iaff84]

Rarely do we get factual technical information especially on the dynamics of the ride of the TG. We have opinions, many of them have some validity or at least information we can think about before we some something stupid to our bikes/trikes. I did raise the back of my trike but I don't believe that changed the rake. Changing the length of the tubes will change the rake. With that said, if BLKHRT wants to spend the money to lower the front of the trike, go for it. He then after non-scientific testing can give his opinion on the ride and handling. I think that's fair.

In raising the rear, it was to level bike. It was for looks and the handling improvement I "feel", well icing on cake.
I never thought of lowering front. Seems to me it will level out look of bike and may give better handling also. No one will know till someone tries it.
I for one am interested in results, both the overall look and the handling of the T Glide.
Keep me posted, sent PM with e mail address.
Dennis

 

[BLKHRT]

thanks everyone! i will share my project. i`m putting parts togather now. black ultra sliders and covers, fat boy front fender, progressive mono tubes. a set of progressive lowered 440s if they fit from my roadglide. as one member said maybe i want to slam it? just something in between . and a s.e 103 stage 4 kit. thanks all for your support. i don`t know how long it will take to get togather $$$$$$
blkhrt