New HOA Rule - No Covers

Mar 15, 2016
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Clermont, FL USA
Name
Steve
Need some advice and informative ammunition. I live in a condo with no garages, therefore the 2016 Harley Tri Glide must stay outside in the parking lot exposed to the elements. We keep it covered every night with either a half-cover when the weather is nice, or a full-cover during bad weather or when we're gone for several days. Last week, my Home Owner's Association board passed a new rule to disallow covers on all vehicles, for a variety of reasons, primarily for snowbird owned cars with covers that are parked and covered for months at a time. However, the rule that was passed was a very broad ALL vehicles. So now, my property manager has suggested I submit a letter next week stating all the legitimate reasons why motorcycles should be covered. Living in swampy Florida with a lot of wildlife and occasional storms, along with water sprinklers and theft prevention issues, some of the reasons we will list are fairly obvious. What I'm hoping to get from someone here are explanations or documentation of long-term damage caused by leaving a motorcycle uncovered for extended periods of time. Any help anyone can add to my list would be greatly appreciated.
 
Need some advice and informative ammunition. I live in a condo with no garages, therefore the 2016 Harley Tri Glide must stay outside in the parking lot exposed to the elements. We keep it covered every night with either a half-cover when the weather is nice, or a full-cover during bad weather or when we're gone for several days. Last week, my Home Owner's Association board passed a new rule to disallow covers on all vehicles, for a variety of reasons, primarily for snowbird owned cars with covers that are parked and covered for months at a time. However, the rule that was passed was a very broad ALL vehicles. So now, my property manager has suggested I submit a letter next week stating all the legitimate reasons why motorcycles should be covered. Living in swampy Florida with a lot of wildlife and occasional storms, along with water sprinklers and theft prevention issues, some of the reasons we will list are fairly obvious. What I'm hoping to get from someone here are explanations or documentation of long-term damage caused by leaving a motorcycle uncovered for extended periods of time. Any help anyone can add to my list would be greatly appreciated.

Very simple ; Motor Cycles Excluded ! The cover must be motor cycle designed . As you can not use a tarp to cover them . :Shrug:
 
the first dam thing i would do is put the condo up for sale and get a real house where you can do what you want with your own stuff:mad:

Need some advice and informative ammunition. I live in a condo with no garages, therefore the 2016 Harley Tri Glide must stay outside in the parking lot exposed to the elements. We keep it covered every night with either a half-cover when the weather is nice, or a full-cover during bad weather or when we're gone for several days. Last week, my Home Owner's Association board passed a new rule to disallow covers on all vehicles, for a variety of reasons, primarily for snowbird owned cars with covers that are parked and covered for months at a time. However, the rule that was passed was a very broad ALL vehicles. So now, my property manager has suggested I submit a letter next week stating all the legitimate reasons why motorcycles should be covered. Living in swampy Florida with a lot of wildlife and occasional storms, along with water sprinklers and theft prevention issues, some of the reasons we will list are fairly obvious. What I'm hoping to get from someone here are explanations or documentation of long-term damage caused by leaving a motorcycle uncovered for extended periods of time. Any help anyone can add to my list would be greatly appreciated.
 
You could draw up a petition that you would not have purchased your condo without a garage had this been in the rules. Have the owners that have a covered vehicle and those that do not object to vehicles being covered sign it.

I don't like the idea that a group on the board can make the rules for everyone involved.
 
There was probably one little snit board member that brought this up at their secret meeting and they all voted on it without ANY prior input from the HOA members as a whole. It would seem they should have brought it up as a suggestion, notified all HOA members to come to a meeting to discuss and/or submit a signed objection or signed approval form, then the board vote according to the petitions. I would review the articles of the HOA to see if they can legally make these decisions without the input of the community members paying the HOA fees.
 
Devils advocate alert !

Could it be possible that some of the home owners didn't want to spring for proper car covers and covered their stuff with those obnoxious 8 dollar harbor freight BLUE plastic tarps...:Shrug:.....
 
Need some advice and informative ammunition. I live in a condo with no garages, therefore the 2016 Harley Tri Glide must stay outside in the parking lot exposed to the elements. We keep it covered every night with either a half-cover when the weather is nice, or a full-cover during bad weather or when we're gone for several days. Last week, my Home Owner's Association board passed a new rule to disallow covers on all vehicles, for a variety of reasons, primarily for snowbird owned cars with covers that are parked and covered for months at a time. However, the rule that was passed was a very broad ALL vehicles. So now, my property manager has suggested I submit a letter next week stating all the legitimate reasons why motorcycles should be covered. Living in swampy Florida with a lot of wildlife and occasional storms, along with water sprinklers and theft prevention issues, some of the reasons we will list are fairly obvious. What I'm hoping to get from someone here are explanations or documentation of long-term damage caused by leaving a motorcycle uncovered for extended periods of time. Any help anyone can add to my list would be greatly appreciated.

Yikes, I lived in Davenport for much of my life, i guess you live in the 'new' Davenport out off 27, man that is disgusting the HOA would do that. What the H*** can they be thinking to make this all inclusive.
 
Tell the HOA the cover protects them from lawsuits caused by children being hurt playing on motorcycles and trikes.

^....This is likely your best way to get the ban lifted in your case.

In this day and age of lawsuits, no matter how frivolous, "safety" is something that cannot be ignored. Lawyers would have a literal field day with an organization that willfully ignores a safety concern/issue. Trick is to get a document in front of the board detailing any/all safety concerns before, God forbid, any actual "incident".

A prime example would be a child suffering severe and disfiguring burns, or other physical/psychological injuries, from contact with a hot engine/pipes resulting from an "uncovered" cycle/trike.

Good luck in your quest...
 
We live in a community governed by a HOA also, our by laws and rules cannot be changed without a communal vote at the annual meeting which is in March of every year. You should check your covenants and see how they are set up.
 
I would review the articles of the HOA to see if they can legally make these decisions without the input of the community members paying the HOA fees.

Unfortunately, yes they can. Anything that changes the declarations of the HOA documents must be voted on by the entire membership at the annual meeting. "Day to day" business and policies are all under the 100% authority and direction of the board until the next annual meeting.
 
Could it be possible that some of the home owners didn't want to spring for proper car covers and covered their stuff with those obnoxious 8 dollar harbor freight BLUE plastic tarps...:Shrug:.....

Nope, there are only about 5-6 total covers on property (out of 500 units) and ALL of them "classy" made to fit covers, whether it be cars or motorcycles.
 
THIS is constructive and good advice! Thanks.

Oh yea get the lawyers involved, Then instead of banning covers then just ban Motorcycles/Trikes that would be even be safer for the children who will be attracted to the dangerous Attractive Nuisance ...by the way is the community you live in 55 and older only...:Shrug:
 
Unfortunately, yes they can. Anything that changes the declarations of the HOA documents must be voted on by the entire membership at the annual meeting. "Day to day" business and policies are all under the 100% authority and direction of the board until the next annual meeting.

Well... would it be possible to NICELY ask the board why they did this and if they would consider a majority vote or signed petition of the populace to possibly reconsider their decision? If no, I would definitely try to vote them out of office next time around.
 
Oh yea get the lawyers involved, Then instead of banning covers then just ban Motorcycles/Trikes that would be even be safer for the children who will be attracted to the dangerous Attractive Nuisance ...by the way is the community you live in 55 and older only...:Shrug:

My "good advice" comment was in regards to covering motorcycles also for the safety of others, not for getting lawyers involved.
 
The way this HOA sounds they would put a ban on bikes and trikes...

Boy UltraFXR, you hit the nail hit on the head. That's exactly what one community had already done (On Top of The World) when we first moved to Ocala in 2010. Once the guy that had created the place died their board changed that ruling. But when my MIL lived there and we towed a bike behind a motorhome in to visit her they were kind of abrupt at the main gate about what would happen if the bike came off the trailer. And I was rather abrupt right back about who would get sued if either the bike or the motorhome were tampered with in their storage area.

But having an attorney look everything over is likely your best bet as you can count on their having had an attorney look at what THEY did.

PC
 
My "good advice" comment was in regards to covering motorcycles also for the safety of others, not for getting lawyers involved.

Not saying ''You'' get lawyers involved.....But just by saying motorcycles aren't safe without a cover to the Nanny's on the HOA.... The next step would be then why not ban them...Stick with the rust problem with an uncovered bike...

A few years ago i was looking at Condos, And two of the restrictions were ,No Motorcycles and No Pick-up trucks...

Needless to say i'm still in my own house....:Shrug:
 

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