lube for 7.5" ford rearend

Keep in mind,the roadsmith is independent suspention.It doesn't have wheel bearings out by the wheels. on the solid axel like my motor trike you need to make sure there is enough lube in the axcel tubes to lube those bearings. By the way the motor trike rear end is mounted upside down. If you use the motor trike manual that is posted here,keep in mind that all the pictures of rearend and axcel assembly is of a full size car rear end,right side up. It is not the cut down,modified rear that is in the trike.

Agreed on the Roadsmith, was only trying to provide the visual of the different design and it helped me understand what Matches has been talking about as regards the Roadsmith (on a side note, the Roadsmith set-up looks pretty impressive)

You've made some very good points, "steamer", and I'm following what you're saying. I also tend to agree with your logic, but at the same time, am trying to keep in mind what Clay@Lehman and my auto mechanic bud have been saying and I still want to bounce some questions off my bud in light of what you've said. Essentially, I'm not certain, but am not going to drain the differential just yet unless or until it seems like a must-do item.

Your Motortrike is the 7.5, this Lehman is the 6.75, both with solid axles, both installed upside down (and thanx for providing that info as well). Also in agreement with what you've said about the Motortrike diagram making it appear as tho' the installation is right side up, but remembering their notation that says something to the effect of "diagram is for parts location reference 'only'", which could mean that the diagram doesn't mean that it's actually installed in the position that the pics show.

When I first asked my bud about the fluid capacity, he said to not be concerned about any capacity spec, just fill it to the level plug and that's the capacity. When I mentioned the 30 oz. figure to him, he said that 30 oz. would barely lube the ring and pinion gears and probably wouldn't be sufficient to reach the end bearings as you've also said. When I told him that the rear end was installed upside down, THEN he agreed that the 30oz. spec might be O.K. Please keep in mind, this is all for the sake of conversation and not argument, and again, I want to pick his brain a bit more on this. He came over here, took one look under the Lehman and immediately said "Yep. That's an old 6 3/4" Ford rear end". He crawled underneath briefly to inspect the relocated vent and to see where the level plug was situated. The way he left it that day was advising me to remove the housing cover to drain it, then to add the 30 oz., then to make a dipstick out of welding rod with the known 30 oz. in there because a dipstick would be the only way to check the fluid level since it would be well below the level plug. As far as any overfill condition, his thought was that it would not blow out the rear end, but the excess could find it's way into the brake drums and foul things up in there. Again, I'll chat with him again to double check before deciding to put another wrench on this Lehman just yet.
 
ol'grey, I found a clip on utube about the 6.75" pinto rear end. Looking at it opened up, mounted right side up in the car. I noticed that when filled to the fill hole,both the ring gear and the pinion gear are bathed in lube. In our application,mounted up side down, if we fill to specs. in my case 3.3 pts and in your case 30 oz's,only the ring gear will be sitting in oil, the pinion gear bearing and wheel bearings will not get enough lube. At this point I would rather have to much, then to little.I'm going to keep an eye on it just incase.
 
Checked YouTube, but not sure if I saw the same vid or not. But one thing I noticed from watching several vids of different vehicles is that the level plug by line of sight seems to be approx. 1/2 way up the axle shaft (also remembering what you said in a previous post about the level plug being in line with the axle shaft).......basically, the fluid level would be 1/2 full thru the axle shaft to reach the bearings as the fluid runs by line of sight thru the housing as well.

Probably won't get to it today, but will check where the level plug is in relation to the 1/2 way mark on the axle shafts. If it looks to be at the 1/2 way mark, I'll stick with it as well, since if it's 1/2 way right side up, it'd be 1/2 way upside down, too.

Now, I did notice some fluid seepage at the level plug when I took a quick look the other day. Am going to remove that regardless, wipe it down and then put some anti-seize compound on the plug threads and reinstall......

The owner did comment without hesitation that the trike was running smoother with the level where it is now (over spec) so I guess the determining factor for me will be where the level plug sits in relation to the 1/2 way mark on the axle shafts.........

Enjoy the day and Ride Safe........
 
that says it all, Ol'gray, That shows exactly what I,m talking about. If you turn that rearend up side down and put in what the manual says to,there won't be enough lube to take care of the bearings. I bet they're is a lot of rear ends out there that are low on lube.
 
that says it all, Ol'gray, That shows exactly what I,m talking about. If you turn that rearend up side down and put in what the manual says to,there won't be enough lube to take care of the bearings. I bet they're is a lot of rear ends out there that are low on lube.

Just got done checking things out on the trike. The level plug looks to be in line with the 1/2 way mark of the tubular part of the differential shaft where the drive shaft would tie into. Comparing the level plug in relation to the axle tubes, I'd say the level plug is slightly higher than 1/2 way, but nothing that concerns me. It was almost impossible to get a straight on visual from any angle to compare the level plug on one side of the housing to the 1/2 way point of the housing cover on the opposite side, but I'd say that it, too, is slightly higher than 1/2 way up. Removed the level plug and put some anti-seize compound on there, then re-installed it. Seepage was very minimal (as in a couple drops) and will keep an eye on it, might only have to tighten the plug a bit more if it shows any sign of seepage again. The vent hose was absolutely dry. I'm no expert, but would think that if there was too much lube or too much pressure inside the axle housing, it would have puked out of the vent hose, but it hadn't. We're on the same page, "steamer", I'm leaving it as is and not draining it. If something requires repair, it'll be shame on me, but am willing to take my chances........
 
One reason the fill hole is where it is, is to insure you don't over fill the differental. Once you get to that point any excess oil will run back out. If you were to over fill it you would blow out your seals. right side up or up side down the fill hole is in pretty much the same level. I believe the old school way is the best way. Fill it to the hole and ride. nuff said.
 
One reason the fill hole is where it is, is to insure you don't over fill the differental. Once you get to that point any excess oil will run back out. If you were to over fill it you would blow out your seals. right side up or up side down the fill hole is in pretty much the same level. I believe the old school way is the best way. Fill it to the hole and ride. nuff said.

Agreed. I'm not worried about it. It's certainly not full to the brim, there's air in the upper portions of the axle tubes, plus there's adequate lubrication for moving parts and heat dissipation.........Rock 'n roll.........:cool:
 
O.K........spoke with my bud and explained the conversation from here since the last time he stopped by. He turned around on his previous advice and agreed with what we've decided on. Said that the lube levels we've chosen should be fine and that if by chance any level was too much, it'd just purge thru the vent hose. If the vent hose happened to have a blockage, then it'd blow out the seals, but bottom line, he believes we'll be fine.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I'M NOT TRYING TO CAUSE ANY CONTROVERSY BETWEEN MOTORTRIKE AND LEHMAN, but can't help but see a huge difference in recommended capacities. Both have Ford rear ends installed upside down, one being 7.5", one being 6.75". One recommends 3.3 QTS., one recommends 30 OZ...........granted, the two differentials are of slightly different sizes but the wide variance of recommended fluid capacities is something that doesn't make sense to me. :Shrug:

In any event, am sticking with the level plug method.........Ride Safe........
 
My girlfriend has a 800 volusa lehman trike. i read all this and it all makes sense but i'm still undecided as to whare the oil level should be ?? Not meaning to hijack the thread but. Her trike is leaking gear oil, i'm sure it is in the holes on front and the back on the rearend, these look like they are there to weld the shorter axle tubes when the axle was shortened for the trike. i cleaned the hole on the back on the left hand side and put some sealer on it that seems to have worked but now the hole in front of the rearend is leaking, could this be because i have too much oil in the rearend, i filled untill oil was comming out of the filler hole? :Shrug::Shrug:
 

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