Let's Talk Oil Filters!

[MDO]

I know what your thinking. The next best thing to an oil thread is an oil filter thread.

I had said before I was going to stick with HD oil filters, but I had some money to spend at Walmart & got the last 2 quarts of Quicksilver 20w-50 oil.I then looked at K&N oil filters & compared them to the Mobil 1 extended performance filters & picked a Mobil 1 M1-102A for $9.99.

The quality just looked very solid.

Anyone try them before & if you did, what are your thoughts?

 

[Jack Klarich]

I know what your thinking. The next best thing to an oil thread is an oil filter thread.

I had said before I was going to stick with HD oil filters, but I had some money to spend at Walmart

& got the last 2 quarts of Quicksilver 20w-50 oil.I then looked at K&N oil filters & compared them to the Mobil 1 extended performance filters & picked a Mobil 1 M1-102A for $9.99.

The quality just looked very solid.

Anyone try them before & if you did, what are your thoughts?

I have used them with No problems

You are a trouble maker aren't you:laugh: Just kidding

You will get many answers on what is best just like oil, the bottom line is MICRONS and by pass pressure

 

[MDO]

That's good to hear. Yes I am a trouble maker, it's a lot more fun.

Those things just feel like a brick compared to others

I would not run any filter 20,000 miles, but thats just me. Once a year would be nice though.

 

[Jack Klarich]

That's good to hear. Yes I am a trouble maker, it's a lot more fun.

Those thinks just feel like a brick compared to others

I would not run any filter 20,000 miles, but thats just me. Once a year would be nice though.

Lol, like HD sayin run the oil 5k between oil changes?

Not on any of my bikes

I urge everyone to cut open at least 1 oil filter and lay the media out take a look at how much debris is in there

This will confirm if your filter is doing its job

Case in point, when my 96 inch Streetbob blew up, I cut the filter open and saved the brass material for the HD inspectors

They knew right away that the cam plate and bushings had let go

I saved that crap for a couple years, I dunno why but that was a HD filter doing its job

The engine never quit running, tho the heads, valves, pistons even the oil ing jets looked like they were sand blasted, plus the cam plate and oil pump were cracked

IMO if you have an engine with TOO much crank run out even the best oil and filter aint going to save it

 

[Jack Klarich]

That's good to hear. Yes I am a trouble maker, it's a lot more fun.

Those thinks just feel like a brick compared to others

I would not run any filter 20,000 miles, but thats just me. Once a year would be nice though.

Michael, dont quote me but I think the Mobil filters are sourced out to Champion Labs, the same folks making H D filters

The Mobil filters I do believe have a stouter metal skin, the filter media is as good as HD and the drain back valve is silicone, IMO a better design

I have cut them open as well as H d filters

I have too much time on my hands, and I want to know what makes things work

 

[MDO]

I think I heard that before. Every thing about them look good to me.

Now my next question Jack, do you fill yours 1/2 up with oil?

I told you I was a trouble maker.

 

[Jack Klarich]

I think I heard that before. Ever thing about them look good to me.

Now my next question Jack, do you fill yours 1/2 up with oil?

I told I was a trouble maker.

Nah, I did at 1 time but it got messy

I did not wait for the oil to soak in

On a brand new build back in the old days, I would, plus we packed the oil pumps with vaseline

Before the TC and M8 the pumps were external on the rs rear of the crank case

 

[MDO]

As far as 5,000 miles on the oil, I think the M8 having a 5 quart capacity helps a lot.

I definitely would not do that on a TC, with barely 4 quarts.

 

[Jack Klarich]

As far as 5,000 miles on the oil, I think the M8 having a 5 quart capacity helps a lot.

I definitely would not do that on a TC, with barely 4 quarts.

Even on a twin cooled Harley I would struggle going 5k on the oil

I bet I catch a lot of flak over that but IMO until oil becomes ridiculous in price I will stick to my 3k interval

 

[MDO]

I had a Lucas Oil Rep. in CA a few days after I bought my Freewheeler tell me their full synthetic high performance 20W50 oil could do 5,000 mile intervals easily, with a quality filter.

They sent me 3 cases so it's getting tested in all 3 holes and so far I really am impressed.

My clutch & tranny love it.

 

[Burnerboy]

I'm also at the 3,000 mile (or less) oil/filter change stage............Oil/ filter doesn't cost that much, and to let a bike go well over 3000 miles with the same filter/oil doesn't make me feel too good.............

Heck, I've had a few times that if I know I'm going on a very long ride, and even though I've only got maybe 1-2,000 miles on her, I have change the oil, it just makes me feel much better....

Just last week, after bike sat for five/six months (winter hibernation period) I jacked her up, placed four inch blocks under each wheel.. (still cold, I opened up oil plug/removed filter and let it just drain, and at the same time I replaced all six spark plugs.....Took her out for my first ride yesterday of the season, Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa what a wonderful feeling, for approx. 38 miles....I may even take her out today, [7:45 AM NOW] if it gets warm again, actually now that I'm thinking about it, I'm going out to garage, and a put battery charger on it, now, so I'll know it has full power...LIFE IS GOOD!

Ronnie

 

[jayd65]

Mobil 1?

I know what your thinking. The next best thing to an oil thread is an oil filter thread.

I had said before I was going to stick with HD oil filters, but I had some money to spend at Walmart & got the last 2 quarts of Quicksilver 20w-50 oil.I then looked at K&N oil filters & compared them to the Mobil 1 extended performance filters & picked a Mobil 1 M1-102A for $9.99.

The quality just looked very solid.

Anyone try them before & if you did, what are your thoughts?

I can't speak for the Mobil 1, I will say I use the K&N because I like the nut on the end to make removal easy.

 

[MDO]

I can't speak for the Mobil 1, I will say I use the K&N because I like the nut on the end to make removal easy.

I do like the feature of the nut for removal, but I put my filters on by hand & never have trouble removing them. It amazes me how dealers still have people way over tighten oil filters. I install them just like the instructions state.

 

[Jack Klarich]

The holes in the filter has been a good idea since the Evo days

The FXR had a good idea under the bike, but this was a bad location and some of the filter mounts came loose and filters were dragged

You would think with all the progress HD has made they could come up with a clean oil filter change by now HAAAAAAAA

 

[Jack Klarich]

#9 got swapped for#11 mount up front on the Fx model Harleys

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[MDO]

Ok, Mobil 1 says their extended FILTER can go 20,000 miles.

I will leave it on for the season, change it out & cut it open to see how full/clogged the filter media is.

I will change to it if it ever quits raining here

 

[Jack Klarich]

Ok, Mobil 1 says their extended FILTER can go 20,000 miles.

I will leave it on for the season, change it out & cut it open to see how full/clogged the filter media is.

I will change to it if it ever quits raining here

That is a pile of miles for a filter

 

[MDO]

That is a pile of miles for a filter

If I don't take any long trips, I usually only ride around 5,000 miles a season.

That would give me a good indication of how the filter is doing.

I use that Mobil 1 extended filter, along with their oil, in both cars & only change it once a year, driving 8-12,000 miles a year, without issue. In that year, the cars will loose a 1/4 to 1/2 a quart.

I've had my car since new & it's now 14 years old. After 3,000 miles I switched to full synthetic oil & have never had engine issues or oil usage(knock on wood).

 

[MDO]

I agree with what your saying. Even my "around town" riding is about 30-40% highway at 55 or above, so I get a good mix. 2 of my sons are in various directions 35 & 45 miles away. I just figured if that filter can take 12,000 miles on my wife's car, it could handle 5,000 on my FW, knowing the trike miles are rougher that the car miles.

Mobil says 20,000 miles or a year & I am going to call them on it.

I like to change my oil prior to parking the trike for winter storage, as I have always heard it is not good to let the very used oil sit in the engine, but this past winter, I have not had the FW sit more than 2 weeks. My 2 wheel bikes always sat for a couple month without use. I have known bikers that would drain the used oil in the fall & put in conventional oil, then drain it in the spring & install the synthetic he used. Then he used that drained unused oil in mowers & such.

We biker/riders are a quirky bunch!

 

[MDO]

While we are on oil filters, when I put the Mobil 1 extended on, I will autopsy the HD chrome 1 the dealer installed at the 1,000 mile service. it will have around 4,000 miles on it.

 

[Jack Klarich]

Be careful when doing this

The metal is sharp and not very forgiving

 

[Burnerboy]

Stop me if I'm WRONG here, but If we go "many 1000's of miles on the same filter, doesn't that filter get plugged up, and does not filter like it does when replaced at a 3000 miles interval ??

(Just my "personal thinking" here)

I feel that a new filter will "filter" out impurities, in the oil flow much better then a plugged up, very high mileage, ..

Please correct me if I'm wrong......... Thank all!

Ronnie

 

[rhino 2]

While we are on oil filters, when I put the Mobil 1 extended on, I will autopsy the HD chrome 1 the dealer installed at the 1,000 mile service. it will have around 4,000 miles on it.

Mike if you use a saw [hack] to dissect it you'll have medal fillings all over the filter medium....Happen to me once.....That was one messy waist of time...The next time i used a P38...Still messy but no fillings inside just brown filter medium...

 

[Jack Klarich]

Mike if you use a saw [hack] to dissect it you'll have medal fillings all over the filter medium....Happen to me once.....That was one messy waist of time...The next time i used a P38...Still messy but no fillings inside just brown filter medium...

Good answer Bob

I use an old tailpipe cutter

I guess if you have a big pipe cutter you could use that