Handeling corners & curves?
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Overall, I'm still fairly "low mileage" (trike miles), maybe 2-3 thousand. I have had (getting better) the same "mental thing" as you. Right turns no problem, left turns scary (or whatever it is). I can't quite figure out why this is, but didn't want you to feel like the Lone Ranger.
Sweeping left turns, no particular problem, but tighter turns (such as a Traffic Circle or "Rotary" - if your from New England) still "get my attention". Mentally, I know this reaction is "nuts" so I continue to work at improving. If I can figure out why this is, it should go a long way correcting the "problem".
Keep at you'll get better with time...
John Luciano
One Of The Origionals
This problem has been around for years ( BT ) before trikes . One guy figured that it is more relaxed turning the throttle up in a left sweep than a right . U really have to concentrate on turning you wrist inward while turning the bar outward. Think about it when riding next time.
What you are going through is a transitional phase. There is a learning curve, as well as a comfort zone that comes only with time. If you luv to ride you will overcome it-but I don't care what anybody says, Trikes are a different animal comepletely than two wheels! Some people buy trikes and end up selling them before they ever get used to them.
Never having been on a trike before, I drove my 98 Goldwing trike home at night 340 miles and my thoughts were the same. I'm gonna sell this dam thing and get back to 2 wheels! lol I'm used to it now and I don't think I'll ever go back to 2 wheels again. Let me add again. This is a great forum!What you are going through is a transitional phase. There is a learning curve, as well as a comfort zone that comes only with time. If you luv to ride you will overcome it-but I don't care what anybody says, Trikes are a different animal comepletely than two wheels! Some people buy trikes and end up selling them before they ever get used to them.
skuuter
One of the Origionals
(1) If Your Trike has air, etc. adjustment to take out chassis roll, take it out, leaving a small amount for "feel"
(2) Put 39 or more lbs of air in Your Front Tire...this helps the Trike turn quicker, easier, and with more "road feel"
(3) Run a Lower Gear in Twisties so You have quicker, and more Engine Braking if You roll out of the Throttle
(4) Roll out of Your Throttle a little sooner than You did on a 2-Wheeler when approaching a Turn
(5) Look as far through the Corner as You can, completely through it if possible...this is the Best Cure for "Lean Wrong Way Trike Syndrome"...if You look far enough, long enough, You'll eventually not notice the lean, and your cornering will get much smoother
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(2) Put 39 or more lbs of air in Your Front Tire...this helps the Trike turn quicker, easier, and with more "road feel"
(3) Run a Lower Gear in Twisties so You have quicker, and more Engine Braking if You roll out of the Throttle
(4) Roll out of Your Throttle a little sooner than You did on a 2-Wheeler when approaching a Turn
(5) Look as far through the Corner as You can, completely through it if possible...this is the Best Cure for "Lean Wrong Way Trike Syndrome"...if You look far enough, long enough, You'll eventually not notice the lean, and your cornering will get much smoother
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I've found the key to getting the trike to corner is to slightly accelerate as you go into the corner... most trikes tend to "push" meaning they feel like they are not turning, ease on the throttle and you will soon find you're going just as fast or faster than the 2 wheelers!
I have added a 6 degree EZ steer kit and it is like power steering.......less muscle needed to push and pull. Love it.
I taught myself to handle curves by practicing in a parking lot and putting my right hand in my back pocket. Riding in '8's without leaning, or even thinking about leaning became easy. And living here in West Virginia handling corners and curves are required!
The local MSF chapter in VA, mscv.org, offers trike classes in Ashland, VA, for 2-6 students. They will even furnish the trike if you don't want to use your own. I have signed up for the January class, the last week in January. They have also scheduled classes in February and March. One of the questions I intend to ask is the advisability of alternating between 2 wheels and 3 so I don't lose hard earned muscle memory, including cornering.
Triker for just about 20 years, and on 2 for, um, quite a bit longer, still have both bike & trike. I can get off one ride and right on to the other with no problems. Never do bike stuff on the trike or trike stuff on the bike. The key, I think, is that the bike (1990 Harley FLHS, owned since '92) is different than the trikes we have had. Our 1st trike was a VW TrikeShop Roundabout, then a 1500 Wing Motor Trike, and currently a GL 1800 Champion.. The trikes have been so different than the Harley in looks and feel I don't get them mixed up.
Had a friend at work with 2 early '90s Wings , both gray, one triked and one not. He had a big sign under the windshield vents that said "BIKE" AND "TRIKE" so he would remember how many wheels he was on.
rmrc51
Lost In The 50's
I'll also be looking to take this course. I was wondering where they offered it in VA. Thanks for the tip! ThumbUp
So how do you controll the throtlle or brake with your right hand in your back pocket? I do not understand what this helps with, how fast are you going, are you using your cruise controll? Please explain...
I still use the MSF basic skills course advice on cornering a motorycle even when I'm on on the trike:
Slow - back off the throttle before getting into the curve
Look - Look as far through the curve as you can. Even on a trike you go where you look
Lean - On faster curves I lean my body (not the trike!) into the curve a bit to counteract the centrifical force pushing me to the outside
Roll - Roll on the throttle through the curve, helps the trike push through.
Slow - back off the throttle before getting into the curve
Look - Look as far through the curve as you can. Even on a trike you go where you look
Lean - On faster curves I lean my body (not the trike!) into the curve a bit to counteract the centrifical force pushing me to the outside
Roll - Roll on the throttle through the curve, helps the trike push through.
Rich,
Here are all of the trike/side-car classes in VA. One of them may be preferable to Ashland in January.
http://vrtp.org/learn2ride/2013 STEP Classes with General Info.pdf
Here are all of the trike/side-car classes in VA. One of them may be preferable to Ashland in January.
http://vrtp.org/learn2ride/2013 STEP Classes with General Info.pdf
rmrc51
Lost In The 50's
Thanks, Dave!! ThumbUp
Right hand in back pocket is "beginning parking lot practice". Hold in clutch, put bike in first, hand in pocket, let out clutch and bike will move at idle speed - which is plenty for slow speed maneuvers while learning. Do a bunch of figure 8s and other turns and you will get a comfortable feel for the bike and confidence in your increasing abilities.
Rich,
I checked with MSCV about the January class. There are five people signed-up, including me. The normal limit is 6. You can register on-line.
I checked with MSCV about the January class. There are five people signed-up, including me. The normal limit is 6. You can register on-line.
I just got some info from a former co worker who is the program director for the MSC in Tennessee. There is a Trike Training course in Nashville and Knoxville only,it is equal to a Beginner Riders course. There is no advanced course for trikes at this time.
Motorcycle Rider Education Program
Motorcycle Rider Education Program
I took the Knoxville course last year and I can't say enough great things about the instructors. You get your MSF certificate and in my case, I got my M Class endorsement after passing. 5 Stars!!!
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I started this thread 4 years ago, and now I'm still riding the trike and having a blast with it. We are scheduled to be at the rally in Eureka Springs in June and look forward to seeing some of you there.
One thing I figured out on the tipping feeling is when you are in your car and make a sharp turn feel your body mass shifts to the outside of that turn. That is what you are experiencing on the trike but since you are out in the open and no door or console to lean against it makes you feel like the trike is tipping. Time and miles will take that feeling away!
See you in Eureka Springs.
One thing I figured out on the tipping feeling is when you are in your car and make a sharp turn feel your body mass shifts to the outside of that turn. That is what you are experiencing on the trike but since you are out in the open and no door or console to lean against it makes you feel like the trike is tipping. Time and miles will take that feeling away!
See you in Eureka Springs.
I was trying to find the schedule for the trike courses in Tennessee but could not find it, any links?
I don't know about the other TN locations but I took the course at Pellisippi State in Knoxville and highly recommend it. Here's a link:
https://registration.xenegrade.com/pellissippi/searchResults.cfm
MarciaG
https://registration.xenegrade.com/pellissippi/searchResults.cfm
MarciaG
Keeping on arm stiff really helps going around turns
Rich,
You missed a great class in Ashland, VA, this past weekend. A total of 7 students from all over. There will be more, including an advanced class and a 1-day class on carrying passengers.
You missed a great class in Ashland, VA, this past weekend. A total of 7 students from all over. There will be more, including an advanced class and a 1-day class on carrying passengers.
I'm new to the trike and only have about 100 miles under my belt, but I feel so natural going right....it's going left that makes me feel like a spazz.
I am so glad it's not just me.
I am so glad it's not just me.
I took a trike class over this past weekend. What most of us had difficulty with, and as confirmed by the experienced instructors, is that right hand turns are harder because your right hand is crunched while operating the throttle.
John Luciano
One Of The Origionals
Some people on 2 wheels feel the same way. On the 2 wheeler it is not as crunched. On the 3 wheeler you are twisting the grip CCWand the bar is coming at you CW
I have an 06 Goldwing with Hannigan kit and I have no trouble keeping up with the best of them through the twisties. It just depends on how much tire wear I am willing to give. The steering tire does wear out very quickly if you push hard in the turns. I have slid the rear axes around the curve more than once riding double up and never felt like I was loosing it.
When I am doing turns I use the push/pull method with my left hand, so as my right/throttle hand is more "free" to excell or decell. Push going right, pull going left. I guess I don't use as much force with right arm as the left.
Regards,
Rosy
From NH
Regards,
Rosy
From NH
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